the Antichrist is alive today

[crossnote]

Of whom did Jesus bring this upon but the children of the flesh? He also prayed that the people be one. We need to understand the meaning of verses such as these.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
(Mat 10:34-36)

You said ''Christ came to save and unify mankind''.
Jesus said ''Think not that I am come to send peace on earth''

To those on earth is who you and Jesus is referring to...except you have a different take.

''that they may be one'' was referring to His own disciples.

 

[justamazed]

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
(Mat 10:34-36)

You said ''Christ came to save and unify mankind''.
Jesus said ''Think not that I am come to send peace on earth''

To those on earth is who you and Jesus is referring to...except you have a different take.

''that they may be one'' was referring to His own disciples.

So He only loved His disciples?

 

[Angela53510]

I think you need to read John 17, the high priestly prayer of Jesus. Jesus prays only for those who follow him. That doesn't mean he doesn't love the lost. But he is only "one" with those who follow him.

"I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. " John 17:9

"I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, [SUP]21 [/SUP]that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. [SUP]22 [/SUP]The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE, [SUP]23 [/SUP]I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me." John 17:20-23

Very simply explained by Jesus. And it totally refutes universalism, doesn't it?

 

[justamazed]

I think you need to read John 17, the high priestly prayer of Jesus. Jesus prays only for those who follow him. That doesn't mean he doesn't love the lost. But he is only "one" with those who follow him.

"I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. " John 17:9

"I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, [SUP]21 [/SUP]that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. [SUP]22 [/SUP]The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE, [SUP]23 [/SUP]I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly ONE, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me." John 17:20-23

Very simply explained by Jesus. And it totally refutes universalism, doesn't it?

Not at all. Again to the children of the flesh, the message of Christ is torment. To those being saved, peace. Those having peace are those that are DEAD in Christ.

 

[justamazed]

Look at the world. Why pray for a place in which its soldiers are internet warriors in a land of abundance, all the while millions are homeless and starving? Money and NOT resources being the ONLY reason this is so.

The message I bring IS the sound of the war of God. Please listen.

 

[peterT]

the bible says that there are -many- antichrists...and that some were alive in john's time...

the bible never says that there is -one- antichrist in the end time...

I don’t think anyone ever has said there is only one antichrist in the end.

There are lots of antichrists in the end, but there is one particular antichrist in the end that you should be aware of



There are plenty of scriptures in the Bible saying there is an particular antichrist in the end, and that he has power over ALL kindreds and tongues and nations and he shows himself AS GOD.


2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

He has ALL POWER, power over ALL kindreds, and tongues, and nations.and shows himself as God and opposeth. So that would make him antichrist.

Woops.

Now that would make him a world leader too.



Rv13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


John said an antichrist shall come 1Jn 2:18

And even Jesus said “The Prince Of This World Cometh, john14;30.

In the end 10 antichrist king give there power and strength to the beast and are of one mind, and make war with the lamb, so that would make them antichrist.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Woops.

And hear is another king that comes out of the ten kings in the Ancient of days and makes war with the saints. So that would make him antichrist.

Daniel7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

The devil already goes about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour in the spirit realm, but in the end he is cast out into the earth, and persecuted the woman and her seed. And he is not going to play second fiddle to anyone

Rv12;9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Yes there are plenty of scriptures in the Bible saying there is an antichrist in the end

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

I don’t think anyone ever has said there is only one antichrist in the end.

There are lots of antichrists in the end, but there is one particular antichrist in the end that you should be aware of



There are plenty of scriptures in the Bible saying there is an particular antichrist in the end, and that he has power over ALL kindreds and tongues and nations and he shows himself AS GOD.


2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

He has ALL POWER, power over ALL kindreds, and tongues, and nations.and shows himself as God and opposeth. So that would make him antichrist.

Woops.

Now that would make him a world leader too.



Rv13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


John said an antichrist shall come 1Jn 2:18

And even Jesus said “The Prince Of This World Cometh, john14;30.

In the end 10 antichrist king give there power and strength to the beast and are of one mind, and make war with the lamb, so that would make them antichrist.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Woops.

And hear is another king that comes out of the ten kings in the Ancient of days and makes war with the saints. So that would make him antichrist.

Daniel7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

The devil already goes about as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour in the spirit realm, but in the end he is cast out into the earth, and persecuted the woman and her seed. And he is not going to play second fiddle to anyone

Rv12;9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Yes there are plenty of scriptures in the Bible saying there is an antichrist in the end

there is a man of lawlessness but the bible never calls him 'the antichrist'...they are not just two names for the same thing...

 

[peterT]

there is a man of lawlessness but the bible never calls him 'the antichrist'...they are not just two names for the same thing...

All talk and NO scripture makes very dull reading, but that seems to be the way of it in the Christian faith these days.


Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

What? does he sound like a friend of Jesus to you? or does he sound like an antichrist

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

All talk and NO scripture makes very dull reading, but that seems to be the way of it in the Christian faith these days.

well if you can post a scripture that actually -says- the man of lawlessness is 'the antichrist'...

 

[KristiLynn90]

God has an anti-christ for every Generation I believe..I mean look at hitler. lol WE wont ever actually know who he is because in order for the antichrist to be revealed the "RESTRAINER" has to be taken out of the way..

 

[crossnote]

So He only loved His disciples?

Is that your conclusion? Not mine.

 

[peterT]

well if you can post a scripture that actually -says- the man of lawlessness is 'the antichrist'...

That’s like me saying to you post scripture that actually -says- the man of lawlessness is not 'the antichrist'

I already did show he was antichrist

But you seem to be straining at a gnat

Matthew 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

 

[peterT]

God has an anti-christ for every Generation I believe..I mean look at hitler. lol WE wont ever actually know who he is because in order for the antichrist to be revealed the "RESTRAINER" has to be taken out of the way..

That sounds very good

But Christians like to guess and do the math, and that show they are looking and not asleep, which I think is a good thing

 

[homwardbound]

who is he?

1 John 2:18[ Deceptions of the Last Hour ] Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

Between God and you brother God will be the one to show you because God by you beleiving will show you truth and this truth is not for us to slander others of any it is for us to bew wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove
[h=3]Matthew 10:16-23[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Persecutions Are Coming[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. [SUP]18 [/SUP]You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; [SUP]20 [/SUP]for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. [SUP]22 [/SUP]And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. [SUP]23 [/SUP]When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

verse 20 is what I have learned to depend on and am staying aware to be dependant on without harming any one else by any coarse words to anyone or anything that the Old flesh me used to do. I have died by free choice to my carnal nature as Paul wanted the Corinthians to do in 1Cor. But at that time could only speak to them carnally for they had not yet begun to grow to maturity, therefore he put law on them to hopefully get them started to come the end of their own works and have a Godly sorrow over a worldly one found in 2Cor 7

[h=3]2 Corinthians 7:8-12[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]For even if I made you sorry with my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it. For I perceive that the same epistle made you sorry, though only for a while. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, although I wrote to you, I did not do it for the sake of him who had done the wrong, nor for the sake of him who suffered wrong, but that our care for you in the sight of God might appear to you.

Hope this helps I think oyu have ears of the Spirit, all I can ever do is water and or plant for it is God that gives the increase my fellow Brother in Christ

 

[homwardbound]

Lets try and stick to the facts

No man knows the hour or day

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

yes lets tell all truth Thank you iron does sharpen iron

 

[homwardbound]

Christ came to save and unify mankind. Antichrist services the opposite. It is a system of division. In this it IS. unified.

man today is pretty much unified Christ being the common denominator, yet still fleshly and justifying all his actions through self will worshipping, getting pats on the back form others helping to just justify their self-works convincing themselves that by these pats on the backs of others are God's praises to them.
Chew on this for awhile and maybe we might grow in truth of the deception that has come upon this entire world getting ready for the true Anti-Christ to appear, could be awhile still and could be tommorrow solet useach keep our oil lamps filled ans watch out for those that steal our oil, for there are many that do and have stolen other's oil
Maybe read the Ten Virgins and insight might come if God wiling prayerfull so to allthat read this here.
Not a personal attack. I have not the energy for any personal attacks to anyone, and if am attacked I can take it, hoping we allhere walk in love and consider each other out of Love God's type best described 1 cor 13:13

 

[justamazed]

man today is pretty much unified Christ being the common denominator, yet still fleshly and justifying all his actions through self will worshipping, getting pats on the back form others helping to just justify their self-works convincing themselves that by these pats on the backs of others are God's praises to them.
Chew on this for awhile and maybe we might grow in truth of the deception that has come upon this entire world getting ready for the true Anti-Christ to appear, could be awhile still and could be tommorrow solet useach keep our oil lamps filled ans watch out for those that steal our oil, for there are many that do and have stolen other's oil
Maybe read the Ten Virgins and insight might come if God wiling prayerfull so to allthat read this here.
Not a personal attack. I have not the energy for any personal attacks to anyone, and if am attacked I can take it, hoping we allhere walk in love and consider each other out of Love God's type best described 1 cor 13:13

Why wait. Is it not happening now? I see many Antichrists.

 

[homwardbound]

Of whom did Jesus bring this upon but the children of the flesh? He also prayed that the people be one. We need to understand the meaning of verses such as these.

Yes we are to be born again here and now of the Spirit of God but please do not forget that the kingdom of god is not here on this earth it is of heaven as he told Peter
John 18:36Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.”

being born again believers we are citizens of Heaven those of us that here still are no more than Ambassadors representing the kingdom of Heaven, the righteousness, the joy, and the peace beyond all Human flesh understanding tha tis reserved for all the beleivers in Heaven. And by beleif today being born again in the Spirit of God by God through the resurrection of Christ at the cross being nade these Citizens this is where we wroship in Spirit and truth at the true Tabernacle
[h=3]Hebrews 8:1-2[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[h=3]Christ Is Our High Priest[/h]8 Here is the main point: We have a High Priest who sat down in the place of honor beside the throne of the majestic God in heaven. [SUP]2 [/SUP]There he ministers in the heavenly Tabernacle, the true place of worship that was built by the Lord and not by human hands.
So how do we worship today and where do we wroship at?
John 4:23
But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
John 4:24For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”
John 14:17He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you.

So is there any other way to worship God? maybe then we might need to ask God for this resurrection in the Spirit as was done with Chirst at the resurrection. God willing this will be done if your motive is pure?, This includes all of us here on earth here today. Lets first maybe go to the cross and die to self with Christ at the cross and then be rasied back to life in the new life that God freely gives to all that just desire to know God with no malice in mind
God knows who these are and who these are not and will do as God will accordingly. praise God for all the glory goes to God

 

[homwardbound]

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
(Mat 10:34-36)

You said ''Christ came to save and unify mankind''.
Jesus said ''Think not that I am come to send peace on earth''

To those on earth is who you and Jesus is referring to...except you have a different take.

''that they may be one'' was referring to His own disciples.

He came to divide the flesh and Spirit this is what is at war flesh against Spirit and Spirit against flesh. And was very clear when he had peter put down his sword after Peter had already cur off the ear of that person that came to take Jessus away. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! went willingly why?
Hebrews 4:12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

for God knows who are his and who are not and who will become all by free choice, with no law in the way for distraction of the flesh to cling onto and make null the power of the cross of Christ as this has taken place by the deception of
Hebrews 7:16Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

So which are we called to be? carnal minded or Spiritual minded from God the Father through the Holy Ghost planted in us our new baing a true heart, one from God as was before Adam and Eve took of the tree of evil. maybe yes?

Ephesians 6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[homwardbound]

So He only loved His disciples?

No Sir
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.