Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality?

Hungry · Jul 24, 2013

Not to make waves but Leviticus is very specific about which sexual relationships are not acceptable and female with female is not one of them. I don't know if it just got overlooked or not translated but I can't find anywhere in the Bible that is against lesbian sex. I've always wanted to ask somebody who knew more about it. I just figured if there is one one husband and multiple wives...well who knows what happened?

leonardronaldo · Jul 24, 2013

Hungry said:

Not to make waves but Leviticus is very specific about which sexual relationships are not acceptable and female with female is not one of them. I don't know if it just got overlooked or not translated but I can't find anywhere in the Bible that is against lesbian sex. I've always wanted to ask somebody who knew more about it. I just figured if there is one one husband and multiple wives...well who knows what happened?

romans 1 : 26?

PennEd · Jul 24, 2013

Hungry said:

Read Romans Chapter 1. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. [SUP]27 [/SUP]In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Hungry · Jul 24, 2013

I suppose that could be evidence and thank you. I'm just surprised its not more specific like when talking about men with men. It forbids women with animals in Leviticus but not other women. There are many unnatural relations that could be inferences here. I'm not pro lesbian but if there is somebody familiar with ancient Jewish law that had something to say I'd like to hear it.

leonardronaldo · Jul 24, 2013

not more specific? the terms 'for even' shows a more stress, as i see it. lol

Yahwhat · Jul 24, 2013

megaman125 said:

What? Where are people "forcing Christians to deny their beliefs?"
People can believe whatever they want to believe. This issue has
to do with discrimination based on sexual preference.

PennEd · Jul 24, 2013

Yahwhat said:

Clearly you didn't read this earlier post:San Antonio Seeks To Ban Anyone Who Opposes Homosexuality From Running For City Council, Being Appointed To A Board… | Weasel Zippers

megaman125 · Jul 24, 2013

Yahwhat said:

Believing homosexuality is a sin is not discrimination. Believing sex between 2 guys or 2 girls is wrong is not discrimination.

Blain · Jul 24, 2013

Exoaria said:

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.
I believe that God created man, and when sin came in, the devil perverted many things within humanity. Satan took the concept of Christ marrying His church, and the natural order that God had intended for man to function and twisted it into something else. He does this with all good things that God had created.

I want to make two statements, though.
a) Homosexuality is just as much of a sin as anything else.
b) Just because you are not attracted to the same sex, does not mean you know what the temptation feels like.

I'm not here to try and start a debate about whether it's wrong or right - because in the eyes of God it's wrong. Bang, there you have it. Nothing else needs to be said on that.
What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with condemning homosexuals?

To say that you are without sin, is to make Him out to be a liar. You are unrighteous, and ungodly, but you are made righteous by the blood of Christ. Sin is sin, God does not make a hierarchy of do's and don'ts. We have ALL fallen short of the glory of our Lord Jesus.
Can you remember the last time that you thought a bad thought about someone? The last time you had a lustful thought? What about the last time you cursed someone? Are you having a hard time forgiving someone?
GUESS WHAT. You are just as bad as a homosexual, I am just as bad as a homosexual.
I struggle, you struggle. I've probably sinned in 50 different ways today and I can't even recall it. I am so unrighteous and I deserve hell, you deserve hell, the pope deserves hell. I don't care who you are, you deserve the pit, no matter what you DO and no matter what you DON'T DO, you deserve no mercy.

I want to know why Christians are so damn obsessed with homosexuals. They will overlook their own greed, their own judgement and take the salvation that they did not earn and use it to tell a gay person that they're going to hell. Do you not realize that you deserve to go to hell?
You didn't wake up one day, accept Jesus, and then not deserve separation from our father. You still deserve separation. That's what grace is, the fact that you don't deserve to be with God, but He LOVED YOU enough to DIE FOR YOU so that you could be with Him. Yet so many people are taking this and act like they are righteous.

There is so much wrong with the world today, and not only is everyone taking their eyes off of Jesus to focus on the affairs of how well everyone else's moral performance is, of all things they choose one sin out of the possible thousands of others out there that you and I are probably committing every day and then pointing gays out to be the unrighteous.

There are adulterers, men who are married and have wives who absolutely love them and they go out and have sexual relations with other women on purpose. Men who shoot up schools.
Do you not see that even though you are JUST AS BAD as THOSE PEOPLE in the eyes of God, you choose to oppress one group of struggling people who cannot help but be under what Satan has done under sin. Yes, some people are born like that, and just because you can't possibly understand what it's like to struggle with that sin does not mean it's easy to deal with. They are committing suicide every day because of Christians who would rather make a sermon or forum thread about gay people condemning them, when they don't willingly choose to be the way that they are, as opposed to someone who chooses to shoot up a bunch of 7 year olds in a school.

I have seen about 20 discussions on homosexuality during my week on this forum, and not one about the people shooting up schools or men who cheat on others. There's no "MURDERERS" threads, or "ADULTERERS" threads, or "THIEVES" threads but countless ones about gay people.

Now I'm not telling you to go and take your eyes off of gay people and start judging murderers, because it's still the same concept. You and I are just as sinful as the guy who shot up the cinema - the difference between us and him is that we have been saved by Jesus Christ for our sins.

What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuals? It's a sin like any other sin, we sin every day. We're no better. We have Homosexual Christians, homosexual non-Christians.
You have Christians who think bad thoughts, and non-Christians who think bad thoughts. Sin is sin.
If you believe that Jesus died for you, you are made righteous by faith the same way that Abraham was.

So please tell me why Christians cannot seem to help themselves but continuously question and attack homosexuality in particular when we are just as bad as them in other areas of our lives?
Why can't we just accept that our beautiful, merciful Lord and Savior died for us, and focus on our relationship with Him and His almighty presence as opposed to spending all our time condemning others and monitoring their lives and actions?

[HR][/HR]

Romans 3:10
as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;"

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I have said many of the same things my friend but some people will not listen to reason. Some people make the mistake of thinking since they are christians and not gay they are somehow more righteous or better than them, when in fact they are not and in my own personal opinion just believing you are better or more righteous than a gay just because you are a christian makes you lower than the gays. If people have so much fun attacking the gays as it seems you have seen I cannot help but wonder if the heart of christ is in them at all. Christ accepted all people even the most vile of people and treated them with the same love and respect as anyone, that alone should make people feel horrible when bashing the gays like they do

Yahwhat · Jul 24, 2013

megaman125 said:

Like I said, you can believe whatever you want to believe. No one's forcing you otherwise.
It's when you act out your beliefs and start infringing on people's civil liberties then there's
a problem.

Exoaria · Jul 25, 2013

tl;dr

LAW LAW LAW LAW LAW
jesus died? what was that? grace?
I can't hear you over the sound of my LAW LAW LAW LAW
LAW LAW LAW LAW
LAW LAW LAW LAW LAW

/thread

thankyou to yahwhat and blain. everyone is just so judgemental. what ever happened to romans 4:5, romans 11:6 and ephesians 2:8-9. people just hear LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW and nothing else. Physical, literal life according to the flesh. i regret making this post already. i had the answer all along:

LAW LAW LAW LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW LAW moses plz come back we dont need jesus we can uphold your LAW LAW LAW LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW LAWLAW LAW LAW LAW LAW

leonardronaldo · Jul 25, 2013

Exoaria said:

if you think Jesus and the New Testament abolish the law or set the bar lower, that's not the best conclusion to make.
and if what you can see from the sacrifice of Jesus is only Grace that's a half truth as well. Jesus also gave 'guidelines and commandments' on how can you be assured to have received that Gift of Grace. that's the Gospel.

Blain · Jul 25, 2013

Exoaria said:

Actually believe it or not the law is a good thing. When I follow God's law not out of fear but because I wish to be obedient and do everything at my best for him I get great joy from his law. True some people take the law way to far but trust me when I say following the lords law can be of great use and pleasure

megaman125 · Jul 25, 2013

Yahwhat said:

And there was none of that in either post I made, yet you seem to have an issue with my posts. Unless you're counting the atempts of infringing the civil liberties of Christians who want to believe the Bible, because that's the only infringing of civil liberties I mentioned.

Yahwhat · Jul 25, 2013

megaman125 said:

You said "people are obsessed with trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs" - this is untrue.
We have a free country where you can believe or not believe anything you want. Beliefs are inside
your mind and sorry but some people just don't care what you believe. Why should your own beliefs
dictate other people's lives?

Blain · Jul 25, 2013

megaman125 said:

Being gay may be a sin, but so is all the other things we do that goes against god's will.

leonardronaldo · Jul 25, 2013

Blain said:

yes and those who claims Christ and Holy Spirit has justified him/her, shall show a justified life by a struggle to hate those sins.
otherwise, he/she is a liar.

PennEd · Jul 25, 2013

Exoaria said:

This is an ignorant post proving that you either didn't read or didn't understand what people said. IF YOU DON'T CONFESS YOUR SIN AND REPENT OF IT THERE IS NO GRACE!

Blain · Jul 25, 2013

leonardronaldo said:

Then I guess to you I am a liar for I neither judge nor condemn them as it is not my place It is God's and God's alone. It is so easy these days for people to judge or condemn someone for their actions, but the sword was never ours to swing. Do you know where most of the hate in this world comes from? Believe it or not christians or so called followers of christ.

Blain · Jul 25, 2013

PennEd said:

See this is what I am talking about, such hate in your words. look at your own sins first and search inside yourself then decide whether or not she will not receive grace.
The only sin I see here is those who are condemning not in her posts. maybe her last post may have had a little to much emotion in it but it was not a sin, sinner

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