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well i would suggest you are the liar, because i don't think Holy Spirit will lie.
anyway, I don't say you are to judge or condemn others. let them do it to themselves.
you just need to remind and warn them, that God is both loving and righteous.
And He who began a good work, will finish it.
I am not condemning or judging here, but warning that Christians are not to be conformed to the world, but to the Christ Himself.
I agree only God can judge, therefore, I'll let you read the Bible for every matters. good to know that you can discern there are so called Christians. now make sure you are not one of them?
how? examine ourselves and test ourselves, whether our faith will stand or not before the Word.
Blessings
anyway, I don't say you are to judge or condemn others. let them do it to themselves.
you just need to remind and warn them, that God is both loving and righteous.
And He who began a good work, will finish it.
I am not condemning or judging here, but warning that Christians are not to be conformed to the world, but to the Christ Himself.
I agree only God can judge, therefore, I'll let you read the Bible for every matters. good to know that you can discern there are so called Christians. now make sure you are not one of them?
how? examine ourselves and test ourselves, whether our faith will stand or not before the Word.
Blessings
Okay well aside from me being a liar and all, I cannot tell a gay that they live a life of sin in all good conscience as I too am a sinner. If the question arises and I have to give an answer I will tell them but they have to find the point to where they question if their way of life is bad or not. I guess I am to gentle for my own good because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. but I certainly do not want to judge anyone for anything because In my opinion my hands are stained too.
And trust me I examine myself and test myself daily, there is a part of me that is truly follower of God in both Love and adoration but there is also the part of me that is of this world. The flesh part, and I constantly beg the Lord to burn everything inside of me that isn't him and fill me with himself. But it is a slow process and honestly it never seems quick enough. I hate the part of me that isn't of God, everyone has that dark side but I want it gone and I will seek the Lord and ask as long as it takes.
And trust me I examine myself and test myself daily, there is a part of me that is truly follower of God in both Love and adoration but there is also the part of me that is of this world. The flesh part, and I constantly beg the Lord to burn everything inside of me that isn't him and fill me with himself. But it is a slow process and honestly it never seems quick enough. I hate the part of me that isn't of God, everyone has that dark side but I want it gone and I will seek the Lord and ask as long as it takes.
LOL Yes I am sure. I know the cost and have accepted the fate of it long ago. I am afraid there will be no may in causing me to be hated, Jesus was not accepted by most people in his day and age so why would he be accepted in this one? I am not saying I will be Jesus I am saying I will be like him in nature heart and spirit, He is the ultimate role model
I feel like I'm on Mars or something. If I said the little red martians like to play street hockey in a swimming pool filed with sand, that would make more sense then what you said.
What hate? You realize that when you accuse someone of hate that is actually a very hateful act in itself. Of course I'm a terrible sinner. That's the whole point in needing a Savior and accepting Jesus. But as stated about a billion times here, you can't justify your sin by saying it isn't sin!! What don't you understand about that? Homosexuality is a sin. If engaged in it needs to be acknowledged as sin, confessed as sin AND repented of. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SIN. God cannot forgive what you refuse to acknowledge as sin.
What hate? You realize that when you accuse someone of hate that is actually a very hateful act in itself. Of course I'm a terrible sinner. That's the whole point in needing a Savior and accepting Jesus. But as stated about a billion times here, you can't justify your sin by saying it isn't sin!! What don't you understand about that? Homosexuality is a sin. If engaged in it needs to be acknowledged as sin, confessed as sin AND repented of. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SIN. God cannot forgive what you refuse to acknowledge as sin.
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I haven't said one word about dictating other people's lives. Way to misconstrue my position and assume some random position I haven't taken. Christians believing homosexuality is a sin is not dictating other people's lives. Get over it.
As for people not being obsessed with trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs, you don't pay much attention to what goes on in the world, do you. The media and activists groups are trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs and force them to say homosexuality isn't sinful. So how about you start by answering your own question. Why should other people's beliefs dictate the way Christians live?
As for people not being obsessed with trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs, you don't pay much attention to what goes on in the world, do you. The media and activists groups are trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs and force them to say homosexuality isn't sinful. So how about you start by answering your own question. Why should other people's beliefs dictate the way Christians live?
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Ok, I give up. If anyone else wants to explain the Golden Rule to megaman please try.
When Christianity starts influencing law, education, and government policies then it does dictate people's lives.
Since we live in a country that grants religious freedom how would you like it if people told you to live by
Muslim standards?
When Christianity starts influencing law, education, and government policies then it does dictate people's lives.
Since we live in a country that grants religious freedom how would you like it if people told you to live by
Muslim standards?
One last thing before I rest my case.
I think you are confusing "trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs" with people not wanting
religious beliefs/ideals passed into law. This in no way is trying to force you to deny your belief.
Again, how would you feel if someone made you live according to Muslim beliefs? When you
understand that then it may not be so hard to see why some people don't want Christian "beliefs"
telling them what to do.
I think you are confusing "trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs" with people not wanting
religious beliefs/ideals passed into law. This in no way is trying to force you to deny your belief.
Again, how would you feel if someone made you live according to Muslim beliefs? When you
understand that then it may not be so hard to see why some people don't want Christian "beliefs"
telling them what to do.
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Maybe someone should try explaining to you what a red herring is.
I didn't say one word about passing laws. This is a red herring.
My post about people trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs has nothing to do with laws being passed. It has everything to do with other people telling Christians to shut up and stop preaching that sin is sin, and people telling Christians how they have to believe.
I didn't say one word about passing laws. This is a red herring.
My post about people trying to force Christians to deny their beliefs has nothing to do with laws being passed. It has everything to do with other people telling Christians to shut up and stop preaching that sin is sin, and people telling Christians how they have to believe.
What's an "intersex" person?
"Gray area"? There is no gray area. You refrain from having sex until you marry. If you do that, it all falls in place. There would be no homosexuality, venereal disease, or children born out of wedlock. Jesus taught us that. Too many people think they are smarter than Jesus Christ.
"Gray area"? There is no gray area. You refrain from having sex until you marry. If you do that, it all falls in place. There would be no homosexuality, venereal disease, or children born out of wedlock. Jesus taught us that. Too many people think they are smarter than Jesus Christ.
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The original Hebrew word used in "repent" throughout every Bible simply means "to change your mind".
Change my mind about what?
Well, I can be like the Pharisees and change my mind about my last sin until I sin again and then apparently change my mind on and on and so forth focusing on myself.
Or I can become occupied with the finished work of Jesus Christ and change my mind that I am unable to become Holy by my own accord but only by the blood of Jesus.
Also, I'm not attacking anyone that follows the Law. God said He will write His laws into your minds and hearts, so it's only natural for Holiness to become more attractive. Don't get me wrong; the Law is Holy, just, and good. However it has no power to make you Holy, just and good.
If I have to ask God for forgiveness every time I fell short of His glory, there probably wouldn't be enough oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere to supply me with the air I would need to speak the words. The Bible says that I am righteous by faith just as Abraham was because of what Jesus did. That doesn't make me not-a-sinner, I know I'm a sinner. But I also know that I'm just as much of a sinner as a homosexual is, and I deserve hell just as much as a homosexual and any of you do.
Good news to those who love Jesus, though! You're redeemed, praise Him and put him at the centre.
Jesus is the King and deserves to be the focus, not any sin of any kind. It's washed away.
Change my mind about what?
Well, I can be like the Pharisees and change my mind about my last sin until I sin again and then apparently change my mind on and on and so forth focusing on myself.
Or I can become occupied with the finished work of Jesus Christ and change my mind that I am unable to become Holy by my own accord but only by the blood of Jesus.
Also, I'm not attacking anyone that follows the Law. God said He will write His laws into your minds and hearts, so it's only natural for Holiness to become more attractive. Don't get me wrong; the Law is Holy, just, and good. However it has no power to make you Holy, just and good.
If I have to ask God for forgiveness every time I fell short of His glory, there probably wouldn't be enough oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere to supply me with the air I would need to speak the words. The Bible says that I am righteous by faith just as Abraham was because of what Jesus did. That doesn't make me not-a-sinner, I know I'm a sinner. But I also know that I'm just as much of a sinner as a homosexual is, and I deserve hell just as much as a homosexual and any of you do.
Good news to those who love Jesus, though! You're redeemed, praise Him and put him at the centre.
Jesus is the King and deserves to be the focus, not any sin of any kind. It's washed away.
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Genuine Christians don't get their theology from a lost atheist and a lost homosexual Catholic. That was a dumb video of two lost ignorant people rambling.
Here's a video of a man who found his way out of the trap of homosexuality into a life of holiness in Christ. He's a happily married man today who counsels people lost in the trap of homosexuality and how the Church can help with that.
@ 8:17: "I heard from the Lord, it was very clear. He told me that I had a choice and that choice was that I could either choose the path He had for me or He would give me over to what it was that I was pursuing [e.g. a homosexual lifestyle]. One would lead to life and one would lead to death... that's when I really began trying to make a change or to discover if there was something else, an alternative to what I was feeling."
Jeff Buchanan - Finding Freedom from Homosexuality in the Church - YouTube
Here's a video of a man who found his way out of the trap of homosexuality into a life of holiness in Christ. He's a happily married man today who counsels people lost in the trap of homosexuality and how the Church can help with that.
@ 8:17: "I heard from the Lord, it was very clear. He told me that I had a choice and that choice was that I could either choose the path He had for me or He would give me over to what it was that I was pursuing [e.g. a homosexual lifestyle]. One would lead to life and one would lead to death... that's when I really began trying to make a change or to discover if there was something else, an alternative to what I was feeling."
Jeff Buchanan - Finding Freedom from Homosexuality in the Church - YouTube
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Rest your case? That's funny because you appear to know almost nothing about the proper relationship between government and morality.
Let me give your first hint, government power is only legitimate when it acts for the moral benefit of the people not its opposites (e.g. immorality and/or amorality).
Secondly, whether or not you accept it, genuine morality has its basis in something other than your best thinking and how you feel. It has it's basis in the character of God.
A good deal of that morality is already passed into law for the benefit of people.
What we don't want is people like you hypocritically forcing your atheistic beliefs, ungodly immoral ideals, and wrong thinking into law as a substitute for moral law.
Obviously, we don't want false religious systems like Islam doing that either.
Let me give your first hint, government power is only legitimate when it acts for the moral benefit of the people not its opposites (e.g. immorality and/or amorality).
Secondly, whether or not you accept it, genuine morality has its basis in something other than your best thinking and how you feel. It has it's basis in the character of God.
A good deal of that morality is already passed into law for the benefit of people.
What we don't want is people like you hypocritically forcing your atheistic beliefs, ungodly immoral ideals, and wrong thinking into law as a substitute for moral law.
Obviously, we don't want false religious systems like Islam doing that either.
