We are as foolish as pharisees to believe NOONE else gets in

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You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish. To believe that is to say a lowly, sinful man as myself, has more love for Gods creation than God himself. Thats simply nonsense.
Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
 
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Our actions of faith mean nothing if Jesus isn't helping us.
 
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You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish.
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No man goes to Hell for not hearing the Gospel. Anyone who goes to Hell will go to Hell for sinning against God.

It is arrogant and foolish for sinners to think they deserve salvation.
 
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gypsyhungry

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And foolish to believe all others are going to hell.
 
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gypsyhungry said:
You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish. - Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
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Hi gypsyhungry, I live in a country with a 2 percent Christian population, God has not closed any doors for the Gospel to go forward. There are missionaries who bring the Good News of Jesus Christ to the 4 corners of the world and to the Hilltribe people where I live. Why is it you think some people believe as your post say's, "NOONE else gets in?" There are many folks who outright reject God's message and there are some people who just do not think they need to be saved from anything. Of course it is very possible that I am missing your point. Welcome to Christian Chat and God bless you!
 
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Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
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Can you give an example without writing it?

(Sorry, I think my old Zen nature kicked in.)
 
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To believe that is to believe a loving Father will disregard all those who dont believe in Christ.
Thats my message, your message. "Our" message. God will reach who He reaches. God will do what He wants, when He wants, how He wants. To be rigid and legalistic and say He will only save those the same way He saved me, is arrogant and foolish.
He reached and chose who He wants, whether it falls in line with Biblical teaching or NOT.
 
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gypsyhungry

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An example? That restricts me to ONLY biblical quotes. God is constantly revealing, i refuse to fall into that trap sir. No offense and i know how it sounds, but its my conviction, i would never ask anyone to follow.
 
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And foolish to believe all others are going to hell.
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Who is arguing that non-sinners will go to hell? I know of no one who says that. The only people who deserve Hell are sinners.

Salvation is by grace. It is undeserved. No sinner has a right to hear the Gospel. No sinner has a right to be saved on his own merit.
 
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God will reach who He reaches. God will do what He wants, when He wants, how He wants. To be rigid and legalistic and say He will only save those the same way He saved me, is arrogant and foolish.
He reached and chose who He wants, whether it falls in line with Biblical teaching or NOT.
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I would agree with most of what you are saying, the sovereignty of God is difficult for the unbelieving world to understand.

Daniel 4:35
"All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, But He does according to His will in the host of heaven And among the inhabitants of earth; And no one can ward off His hand Or say to Him, 'What have You done?”
 
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gypsyhungry said:
To believe that is to believe a loving Father will disregard all those who dont believe in Christ.
Thats my message, your message. "Our" message. God will reach who He reaches. God will do what He wants, when He wants, how He wants. To be rigid and legalistic and say He will only save those the same way He saved me, is arrogant and foolish.
He reached and chose who He wants, whether it falls in line with Biblical teaching or NOT.
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Would you at least say this is true?....
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
(Act 4:12)

Is it too restrictive? Legalistic?
 
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Wake up call....YOU are a sinner. And you STILL sin. To think or say otherwise is.....a SIN. cuz lying is a sin. My advice to you is to humble yourself before Him and get off your high horse.
When He said sin no more it is the same as when it was said to be Christ like. Christ is perfect and as long as we are in this flesh we will sin in some way shape or form. It is an unobtainable goal, but one we should relentlessly strive for.
To believe otherwise is only fooling yourself and all others you have believing the same.
 
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Wake up call....YOU are a sinner. And you STILL sin. To think or say otherwise is.....a SIN. cuz lying is a sin. My advice to you is to humble yourself before Him and get off your high horse.
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You have a very judgmental approach and you like to call people names. Maybe you should get off your horse yourself.

I did not say I did not deserve Hell or that I had not sinned. I said only sinners deserve Hell.

No one goes to Hell for not hearing the Gospel. People go to Hell for sinning against God. Salvation is by grace. It is undeserved.
 
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gypsyhungry

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Judgemental? Lol....wow. The hypocrisy spews from your mouth.
I cant reason with hypocrisy.
You cant stand being wrong. Get over it, it wont be the first time.
 
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Gypsy, sounds to me like you're the one who needs to get off his high horse. Truthful words spoken with hate - that's not right. Truthful words spoken will love - that's where God wants us. Less pointing the finger, more loving like Christ did.
 
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Wake up call....YOU are a sinner. And you STILL sin. To think or say otherwise is.....a SIN. cuz lying is a sin.
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I believe that when we are saved we are cleansed from our sins. We are no longer sinners; we are saints. Our hearts have changed. We will still sin, but not because we have a sinner's heart. A sinner does not enter heaven sense sin and holiness cannot coexist. We are one or another.
I'm sure I'll get knocked a lot for this post- it's happened before, but I wanted to share.
 
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gypsyhungry

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Youre too soft. Your feelings get hurt too ez. Bold defense is not hatred.
You are the problem with Christians today.
 
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gypsyhungry said:
You can quote all the scripture you want. To believe our God of love. Our Father, would close the doors on those who havent had our opportunity of information is ridiculous. Hyprocrisy. Arrogant and foolish. To believe that is to say a lowly, sinful man as myself, has more love for Gods creation than God himself. Thats simply nonsense.
Its time we know God through our actions of faith rather than whats written.
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"What[']s written" is God's Word; an inspired, objective, inerrant and infallible Word. No man can question the will of God, and no man is deserving of grace, but grace is grace, otherwise, no man would have salvation. I suggest you read the Book of Job, also, the Bible clearly states not all men will enter the kingdom of heaven.
 
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