Does God love Satan?

[john832]

impossible. satan's end is the lake of fire forever. Don't dishonor GOD by minimizing his hatred for evil. evil isn't just some vapor or idea floating through the cosmos; it is a being that hates GOD.

Exactly. Satan has fixed his character and will not repent. He is already sentenced and justice will be carried out at the return of Christ...

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

and after the Millenium...

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Ephesians 3:13-15

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,The Word made all there was, correct? Then His name is in ALL.

These are simple principles. Now I ask you, what is Satan?

The whole family is not a good translation of εξ ου πάσα πατριά (out of whom every lineage). Certainly Christ's name is on everything because he owns everything, but all men are not his children. Only those of faith are his children, i.e. offspring, born of him.

Satan is a being that loves himself more than GOD.

 

[SpiritofFire]

The whole family is not a good translation of εξ ου πάσα πατριά (out of whom every lineage). Certainly Christ's name is on everything because he owns everything, but all men are not his children. Only those of faith are his children, i.e. offspring, born of him.

Satan is a being that loves himself more than GOD.

Still the same thing. I do not need to know the greek. I ask again anyone, what is Satan?

 

[john832]

The former Lucifer, now his name is destroyer and his fate as well as his minions is...

Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

 

[SpiritofFire]

The former Lucifer, now his name is destroyer and his fate as well as his minions is...

Jud 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

That's not Satan, but that is the problem.

 

[nathan3]

I'm not going to assume what God feels about anyone. But I will post a few scriptures to give you a Idea of what is going on here.


Our Heavenly Father created him: Ezekiel 28: 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Satan was created perfect, and God gave Satan what he deserved as he no doubt worked for that position.

But as you read , he fell and drew 1/3rd ( Revelation 12:4 ) of all God's children away from Him. And, thus sealing Satan's fate.



Satan is the only one sentenced to the 2nd death by name : Ezekiel 28 18 ( paraphrased ) - " I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee." ( The fallen angels that helped him are also sentenced to the 2nd death as recorded in Jude )

The Savior Came to this earth the destroy Satan.

Hebrews 2:14
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;


Christ came to this earth to save us bringing us back to our True, Heavenly Father: But one, that is Satan.

John 17:12

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

 

[nathan3]

Continue -

The sentence has not been carried out yet because God will use him for two things ( Revelation 12: 9 & Revelation 20:3 to test the nations ) Which is yet future and soon coming . ( Also know as the tribulation of antichrist. it is non other then Satan himself )

That only covers a few scriptures. So that gives you a small foundation about the subject ) If you want to talk more in chat about it let me know.

Satan Put our Heavenly Father to death on the cross, now God has the right to destroy Satan. But it will be his soul that gets it, along with the 7,000 fallen angels that followed him . And then we will have peace forever after that.

 

[john832]

Continue -

The sentence has not been carried out yet because God will use him for two things ( Revelation 12: 9 & Revelation 20:3 to test the nations ) Which is yet future and soon coming . ( Also know as the tribulation of antichrist. it is non other then Satan himself )

That only covers a few scriptures. So that gives you a small foundation about the subject ) If you want to talk more in chat about it let me know.

Satan Put our Heavenly Father to death on the cross, now God has the right to destroy Satan. But it will be his soul that gets it, along with the 7,000 fallen angels that followed him . And then we will have peace forever after that.

You know that God does not tell even the angels everything?

1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

God used Satan to put Christ to death and Satan was a pawn in God's hand...

1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

First of all, is Paul referring to human princes? Doubtful...

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Now consider this, if Satan had known the full extent of Christ's sacrifice, he would have done everything in his power to keep Christ alive. He would not have inspired a plot to kill Him. As it is, Satan was actually used to facilitate the salvation of mankind.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

Jacob have I loved Esau have I hated.

 

[RedTent]

I think our human perception of Jesus as loving even sin is a dangerous one. When Jesus returns, it will be to judge and blood will run in the streets. We are to be in awe of the power of God. and over and over scripture is about saving us from sin. Satan represents sin.

We cannot live eternally if we bring sin with us. Satan is hate, God is love. To think of God accepting or loving Satan, sin, or hate is not truth and we must be a part of truth.

This new idea of God loves everyone has been carried too far. God loves every single human He created, God wants every one to live with Him, and is ready to forgive. But if we choose satan, we are dead and not part of the family of God.

 

[directline2iam]

Love in Action

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
(Romans 12:9)

That statement is out of context. The devil isn't evil (his being) but rather his actions.

 

[directline2iam]

impossible. satan's end is the lake of fire forever. Don't dishonor GOD by minimizing his hatred for evil. evil isn't just some vapor or idea floating through the cosmos; it is a being that hates GOD.

You are sooooo incorrect ...it's an attribute not a being.
I am a being also that God loves but my flesh has sin and hatred for God. And my personal spirit is persuaded by sin or by Love.

 

[directline2iam]

Exactly. Satan has fixed his character and will not repent. He is already sentenced and justice will be carried out at the return of Christ...

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

and after the Millenium...

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Exactly. Satan has fixed his character and will not repent. He is already sentenced and justice will be carried out at the return of Christ...

Your own words you typed right above this sentence, you own words betray your intellect.
Satan has fixed his character...

His character is not his being daaaaaa

 

[directline2iam]

I think our human perception of Jesus as loving even sin is a dangerous one. When Jesus returns, it will be to judge and blood will run in the streets. We are to be in awe of the power of God. and over and over scripture is about saving us from sin. Satan represents sin.

We cannot live eternally if we bring sin with us. Satan is hate, God is love. To think of God accepting or loving Satan, sin, or hate is not truth and we must be a part of truth.

This new idea of God loves everyone has been carried too far. God loves every single human He created, God wants every one to live with Him, and is ready to forgive. But if we choose satan, we are dead and not part of the family of God.

]I think our human perception of Jesus as loving even sin is a dangerous one.

Your first line in your statement...No one said Jesus loves sin. We said Jesus GOD loves all His beings which are His creations.

 

[directline2iam]

Also in the old testament God Himself says He is the creator of evil and at times He himself is Evil, a righteous evil. Does God therefore Hate Himself? No. For God also is a being with good and evil attributes.

 

[directline2iam]

good, evil, and Love are not the same, therefore YES God Loves Satin.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

That statement is out of context. The devil isn't evil (his being) but rather his actions.

Evil fruit comes from an evil nature.

 

[john832]

I think our human perception of Jesus as loving even sin is a dangerous one. When Jesus returns, it will be to judge and blood will run in the streets. We are to be in awe of the power of God. and over and over scripture is about saving us from sin. Satan represents sin.

We cannot live eternally if we bring sin with us. Satan is hate, God is love. To think of God accepting or loving Satan, sin, or hate is not truth and we must be a part of truth.

This new idea of God loves everyone has been carried too far. God loves every single human He created, God wants every one to live with Him, and is ready to forgive. But if we choose satan, we are dead and not part of the family of God.

You are very correct, how does God deal with unrepentant sinners? He burns them to death for all eternity. Oh my, that is fear religion. Well guess what folks...

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[SpiritofFire]

You are very correct, how does God deal with unrepentant sinners? He burns them to death for all eternity. Oh my, that is fear religion. Well guess what folks...

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Do you have children? If so can you do this to them?

 

[overthechill]

I had always thought God created evil since He created everything. I mean, evil itself is benign. Good is benign until it's acted upon and God did act upon Good in the beginning when He saw that light was good. So it is with evil. Evil things acted upon are the things God hates, but not the actor. This is why He forgives us the sinner, but not the sin. The sin or the evil continues it's "life" sometimes having domino effect, but the sinner remains forgiven. The sin committed is the tragedy of humankind. The sinner is loved by God no matter his course. So, in my opinion anyway, God does love all His creations including Satan.