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jonathanbchristian

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I know you have heard the divorce rate among Christians is close to the divorce rate of the world, around 50%. This is misleading information. 50% is the rate of those who simply claim Christianity; 30% is the divorce rate of Christians who actually attend a Church. That is 20% less likely to divorce if you attend church.
 
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Still why do you think the rate is so high? I think too often we just look at a band aid, not a complete fix. We need a fix as this creates millions of broken homes. To fix we must first identify the root problem.

Any ideas of the cause of this?
 
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I think it is because no matter what we say, we are still human. I think too there is a lack of enough faith to know and trust that God will really help, or that some get impatient. Not christian but is reality. Personal and intimate relationships are extremely vulnerable to attack. So sad

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BeanieD said:
I think it is because no matter what we say, we are still human. I think too there is a lack of enough faith to know and trust that God will really help, or that some get impatient. Not christian but is reality. Personal and intimate relationships are extremely vulnerable to attack. So sad

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I don't disagree with anything you have said here, however I have to say:

"The federal government has released the preliminary birth data for 2008. For the first time the out-of-wedlock birth ratio is over 40 percent in the United States, at 40.6"

In the 1920s it was 3.8%

We were still human back then, however sin is running rampant now
 
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Marriage is always under attack by satan and the world. Even the church has enemies of marriage in its pews. The Biblical view of marriage is considered outdated by liberals and lukewarms. The more love against law is preached the more sin infest the church. We need love is the law and prophets not love destroys them.
 
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Hizikyah said:
Still why do you think the rate is so high? I think too often we just look at a band aid, not a complete fix. We need a fix as this creates millions of broken homes. To fix we must first identify the root problem.

Any ideas of the cause of this?
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Church is not a complete fix but 20% is millions of saved marriages due to church attendance. Of course God deserves the credit not the church building. Lowering the divorve rate of the church is a spiritual battle objective. You asked what the problem was; I would say a big portion of the problem in church is false doctrine. God hates divorce but many false teachers love divorce.
 
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The census burea did a study in 2004 that said first time marriages lasted 8 years on average. Around 12 to 13 percent remarried. 3 percent remarried more than once. I hope to be married for life. How can we beat statistics. I recently purchased a book called Married For Life, which has advice from people married 50 years or more.
 
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According to wikipedia a recent study shows that about 20% of married people experience infidelity or cheating. Since this is the only reason Jesus gives for divorce that means most divorces are not biblically lawful.
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
I know you have heard the divorce rate among Christians is close to the divorce rate of the world, around 50%. This is misleading information. 50% is the rate of those who simply claim Christianity; 30% is the divorce rate of Christians who actually attend a Church. That is 20% less likely to divorce if you attend church.
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I think the divorce rate among Christians is 51%, it's higher than that of the unsaved world. As far as those attending church being less likely to divorce, most adult church attenders are on their second and third marriages especially the pastors. I think its still better to be with someone you are equally yoked with spiritually. It's just a matter of keeping an open mind in knowing that an unsaved person can become a saved one so we have to be careful about discounting them.

Either way, it's a lot of work. The saved person will burden you with accusations, and the unsaved person will burden you with unbiblical rhetoric. It's like... chose wisely or stay single.
 
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curlyafropuff said:
I think the divorce rate among Christians is 51%, it's higher than that of the unsaved world. As far as those attending church being less likely to divorce, most adult church attenders are on their second and third marriages especially the pastors. I think its still better to be with someone you are equally yoked with spiritually. It's just a matter of keeping an open mind in knowing that an unsaved person can become a saved one so we have to be careful about discounting them.

Either way, it's a lot of work. The saved person will burden you with accusations, and the unsaved person will burden you with unbiblical rhetoric. It's like... chose wisely or stay single.
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Not to be offensive but where did you get your statistics because they are not accurate with divorce rates I have seen anywhere.
 
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Studies show that only 14 to 20 percent of Christian ministers have ever been divorced. That is less than normal.
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
Not to be offensive but where did you get your statistics because they are not accurate with divorce rates I have seen anywhere.
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Christian divorce rate in the United States of America also, TBN-they discuss it every week.
They state 60% of Christians over the age of 30 are divorced.
 
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Believing Christians divorce more is a lie of the devil.
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Well, you may be right about that. We have to keep in mind that people were unsaved before they got saved. Some of those unsaved decisions are being factored into the Christian statistics now that they are saved.
 
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They also factor people who claim to be Christians whither or not they really are or not.
 
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To the degree we leave our first love (God) is the degree we leave our 2nd love (spouse) .
 
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crossnote said:
To the degree we leave our first love (God) is the degree we leave our 2nd love (spouse) .
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You've hit the nail on the head here cross...

There are a whole host of issues surrounding this, but the main thing amongst a Christian couples is the lie of individualism in western society.. its all about ME. MY happiness, MY joy, MY time, MY freedom..

You also have the positions where both where not christians when married, one becomes saved the other does not.. The unbelieving partner may well want to leave. That's not the fault of the Christian... but you have to ask how often is that used as an excuse?

It's not an easy issue to answer, However, our prayer life should involve praying for those in the church (your own local church) who are married..to stay married.. we should be shining examples of light and love.

Family is community, community is society..as marriage in the real sense crumbles so has society been.

I think on the whole christen marriages collapse because of the ME ME ME syndrome...
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
I know you have heard the divorce rate among Christians is close to the divorce rate of the world, around 50%. This is misleading information. 50% is the rate of those who simply claim Christianity; 30% is the divorce rate of Christians who actually attend a Church. That is 20% less likely to divorce if you attend church.
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Citations, please???

This is an example of a logical fallacy called "no true Scotsman" where, when given evidence that a certain group contains characteristics that goes against what you believe about that group (such as being shown that Christians get divorced), you claim that those people aren't true Christians.

It would make sense that Christians would divorce less than non-Christians, given that divorce would hold a greater stigma for them and cause rejection from their peers... if that actually happened. But divorce is so common that Christians can't afford to reject every divorcee from their churches.
 
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Look the statistics up yourself. I gave enough info for you to google. A dictionary is not a Bible. I am so glad you know a term for what you think I did but what you did was assume. Christians are less likely to divorce because Jesus gave teachings about it in Matthew 5 and Matthew 19 and because they have more love than the world.
 
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there's one church reported in south america where they teach the truth and the divorce rate there was reported to be zero.(that was over 10 years ago though).
it was a church over a few hundred members.

if teachers taught the truth, the divorce rate would be zero for most assemblies.
 
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