Is christianig a baby baptism

[Isdaniel]

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.


14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?


15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.


16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:


17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

I suppose that in order to answer this question, we would have to understand what 'christianig' means. I'm guessing you mean christening?

 

[Isdaniel]

Yes i mean christening hmmmmmmmmmmmm sory for the typo

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Yes i mean christening hmmmmmmmmmmmm sory for the typo

I was always taught that baptism was immersion (i.e. full immersion), and christening is just a few water droplets on a baby's head. Probably better to wait for a more knowledgeable reply, though.

 

[Bryancampbell]

Christening is usually an infant baptism, and then given a Christian name, or a name.

 

[Delija]

Why baby baptism would be different in anything with baptism of growed man?

 

[Isdaniel]

Babies cannot confess any sins so therefore this is a false and dngerous teaching .
It has alot of people walkinh aroud saying they were baptised since they were a baby and are saved .
Jesus words are being neglected which says you must be born again and this is done as an adult.
John 3
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom
of God.


4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?


5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.


Matthew 3 Jesus as a grown man
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

 

[p_rehbein]

Couple of thoughts.............

First: Don't see what the Scripture in the OP has to do with the christening of a child.......the Scripture given concerns the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist. Just saying........

Second: I know it is the practice of some churches to christen children/infants, and they count this as water baptism, however, all that I read in Scripture says..........NO. It is not.

Now, there is nothing wrong with a Dedication Ceremony for an newborn. My church does this......but we do not believe the infant is baptized as commanded by Jesus. Rather it is a Ceremony where the parents of the child promise to God that they will raise the child in His ways, and instruct the child in His Word. There are also God Parents appointed so that IF the need arises, they can assume the responsibilities of the parents for the child.

The Author of the OP is correct that a child/infant can not realize the meaning of baptism. Nor can they comprehend "sin." They are unable to knowingly choose to repent of their sinful life, and with a sincere and contrite heart ask God to forgive them of their sins, and invite Jesus Christ into their lives as Lord and Saviour. I don't see any Scriptural support for a person being baptized as a child.......and, let us keep in mind that it ISN'T water baptism that cleanses us of our sin, rather it is the precious blood of Jesus Christ.......Water baptism is an act of obedience to the Commandment of Jesus that we be baptized. It serves as a "sign" or "witness" if you will, to not only the Church, but to the world that we have become disciples of Jesus Christ.

 

[Delija]

In the Old Testament, circumcision was the prototype of the Sacrament of Baptism in the New Testament, by which the believer enters into a new covenant with God (Col. 2:11-12). If circumcision was performed in the Old Testament on all males, adult and infant (being prescribed for infants on the 8th Day after birth), so much the more, according to the grace of the new covenant, the Sacrament of Baptism should be administered to infants.

 

[p_rehbein]

In the Old Testament, circumcision was the prototype of the Sacrament of Baptism in the New Testament, by which the believer enters into a new covenant with God (Col. 2:11-12). If circumcision was performed in the Old Testament on all males, adult and infant (being prescribed for infants on the 8th Day after birth), so much the more, according to the grace of the new covenant, the Sacrament of Baptism should be administered to infants.

Water baptism is not how we enter into His Covenant of Grace.........just saying. So, to what avail is an infant baptized? Now, it's a nice way for the parents to promise God that they will raise their child according to His Word, and I suppose it's nice for their families as well.......a Dedication Ceremony is pretty cool........but it does not cause the infant "to enter in to God's Covenant of Grace." Don't see that in Scripture.......but, now, that may just be me.

 

[Delija]

Having become a member of the Church through Baptism, infants can receive Holy Communion and from the first days of their life on Earth, they can become vessels of the Holy Spirit. Holy Scripture itself speaks of the baptism of whole families by the Apostles (Acts 16:14-15; 30-39; 1 Cor. 1:16), and there is no reason to consider that there were only adults in these families or to assume that when adults were baptized, the children in these families were not baptized. Christianity, above all, is a new life in Christ Jesus, and this life, according to the belief of the Orthodox Church, is given to all, and of course to children, for as the Lord Himself said, Let the children come to Me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 19:14).

 

[john832]

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.


14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?


15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.


16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:


17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

No, baptism is an adult decision that has eternal consequences. A child is in no way able to make such a decision.

 

[starfield]

In the Old Testament, circumcision was the prototype of the Sacrament of Baptism in the New Testament, by which the believer enters into a new covenant with God (Col. 2:11-12). If circumcision was performed in the Old Testament on all males, adult and infant (being prescribed for infants on the 8th Day after birth), so much the more, according to the grace of the new covenant, the Sacrament of Baptism should be administered to infants.

Only believers were baptised throughout the NT. Babies cannot understand and believe the gospel of salvation. Col. 2:11-12 is not saying that circumcision replaced baptism neither is it a proof text for infant baptism. Paul was explaining to the brethren in Christ at Colosse that the means of entering the new covenant relationship with God is spiritual, which is spiritual circumcision (verse 11) whereby the body of the sins of the flesh is cut off by faith, as opposed to the physical act of circumcision. Therefore, baptism is a sign that heart circumcision by Spirit of God has occurred.
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. The believer is buried with Christ in baptism and raised with Him through faith in the work of God. Now babies cannot believe in Christ so Paul's teaching of baptism here actually excludes them.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

 

[starfield]

Having become a member of the Church through Baptism, infants can receive Holy Communion and from the first days of their life on Earth, they can become vessels of the Holy Spirit. Holy Scripture itself speaks of the baptism of whole families by the Apostles (Acts 16:14-15; 30-39; 1 Cor. 1:16), and there is no reason to consider that there were only adults in these families or to assume that when adults were baptized, the children in these families were not baptized. Christianity, above all, is a new life in Christ Jesus, and this life, according to the belief of the Orthodox Church, is given to all, and of course to children, for as the Lord Himself said, Let the children come to Me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 19:14).

You subscribe to a false gospel.

 

[Huckleberry]

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.


14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?


15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.


16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:


17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Scriptural baptism always follows confession of Belief.
Any so-called baptism of someone who hasn't been "born again" is merely getting them wet.

 

[Huckleberry]

Having become a member of the Church through Baptism, infants can receive Holy Communion and from the first days of their life on Earth, they can become vessels of the Holy Spirit. Holy Scripture itself speaks of the baptism of whole families by the Apostles (Acts 16:14-15; 30-39; 1 Cor. 1:16), and there is no reason to consider that there were only adults in these families or to assume that when adults were baptized, the children in these families were not baptized. Christianity, above all, is a new life in Christ Jesus, and this life, according to the belief of the Orthodox Church, is given to all, and of course to children, for as the Lord Himself said, Let the children come to Me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 19:14).

What we have here is miles of denominational and doctrinal differences.
You are obviously Catholic. That's your business,
but the traditions of the RCC are not Biblical.
You don't understand Baptism or the Lord's Supper (what you call "Holy Communion").
They are only meant for Believers. Infants cannot confess Christ.

 

[Delija]

You subscribe to a false gospel.

Who are u to judge about the false and who gave u such a right?

 

[Delija]

What we have here is miles of denominational and doctrinal differences.
You are obviously Catholic. That's your business,
but the traditions of the RCC are not Biblical.
You don't understand Baptism or the Lord's Supper (what you call "Holy Communion").
They are only meant for Believers. Infants cannot confess Christ.

Obviously i am a Catholic,but i have nothing with the present RCC.I do not believe in a Pope as Vicar of Christ,Filoques and many many things.For Orthodox and RCC i can say only that we were 1 Church before 1000years which won all heresies of that time,but our ways are diametrical opposite.In fact,what i can say for sure is that Protestants are RCC have much more common then Orthodox.
East was totally separated from west for almost 1000years and there were almost no touch of 2 Churches.
Only what we could do is to exame writtings of Holy Fathers and Apostolic Fathers and see how Early Church looked.However u wont find there Roman Catholic Church,nor Pope as Vicar.

 

[starfield]

Who are u to judge about the false and who gave u such a right?

Obviously i am a Catholic,but i have nothing with the present RCC.I do not believe in a Pope as Vicar of Christ,Filoques and many many things.For Orthodox and RCC i can say only that we were 1 Church before 1000years which won all heresies of that time,but our ways are diametrical opposite.In fact,what i can say for sure is that Protestants are RCC have much more common then Orthodox.
East was totally separated from west for almost 1000years and there were almost no touch of 2 Churches.
Only what we could do is to exame writtings of Holy Fathers and Apostolic Fathers and see how Early Church looked.However u wont find there Roman Catholic Church,nor Pope as Vicar.

Scripture itself shows that your doctrine is false.
Catholicism ain’t Christian.

 

[Delija]

Scripture itself shows that your doctrine is false.
Catholicism ain’t Christian.

That u said,but who are u?
On my side is whole Early Church,thousands of Saints and Martyrs known and unknown.
Who is on your side?