Do we have the power to do miracles?

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Feb 23, 2013
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I just started to read a book called miracles can be yours today and was inspired by it. This book even though i only just started reading it speaks of how we can do the same things as the apostles with the same holy spirit with tongues as they had. even gave an account by how a small group of church ppl decided to test this belief by putting their hands on a girl and asked God to pour unto her the same holy spirit as he gave unto the apostles. and suddenly she was and began speaking in tongues.Reading this story made me want to see if this could be true. A thought ran through my head of the scripture to test all spirits but not in the way to see if its true but almost as if God was telling me to test him in this and i remembered ask and you shall receive. but i thought to myself surely it cannot be that simple, but i wanted to try anyways. I got on my knees and before asking for the holy spirit as he gave the apostles Asked God that if i am asking this without the right heart or motive to say no but give me such a heart and motive that he seeks. I then asked God for such a spirit as the apostles but not for me to use on myself but to heal, clean and love others. for it to be out of love for both God and all his children. I asked but i knew my faith is not near strong enough. i told him how i cannot say to this mountain to move or fall and it happen. so i did not use my faith but gave it all to him, asking him to take the reins and do as his will is even if the answer is no.tbh i feel inside i am supposed to be doing something more here, there seems to be a connection with God my soul longs and craves so deeply inside that i have yet to receive.There is something so much more than what i am seeing here.I feel no different so perhaps he replied no or more likely not yet, maybe my heart is not ready yet. although just the fact i wanted to try is a huge leap of faith for me, so any thoughts?
 
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I just started to read a book called miracles can be yours today and was inspired by it. This book even though i only just started reading it speaks of how we can do the same things as the apostles with the same holy spirit with tongues as they had. even gave an account by how a small group of church ppl decided to test this belief by putting their hands on a girl and asked God to pour unto her the same holy spirit as he gave unto the apostles. and suddenly she was and began speaking in tongues.Reading this story made me want to see if this could be true. A thought ran through my head of the scripture to test all spirits but not in the way to see if its true but almost as if God was telling me to test him in this and i remembered ask and you shall receive. but i thought to myself surely it cannot be that simple, but i wanted to try anyways. I got on my knees and before asking for the holy spirit as he gave the apostles Asked God that if i am asking this without the right heart or motive to say no but give me such a heart and motive that he seeks. I then asked God for such a spirit as the apostles but not for me to use on myself but to heal, clean and love others. for it to be out of love for both God and all his children. I asked but i knew my faith is not near strong enough. i told him how i cannot say to this mountain to move or fall and it happen. so i did not use my faith but gave it all to him, asking him to take the reins and do as his will is even if the answer is no.tbh i feel inside i am supposed to be doing something more here, there seems to be a connection with God my soul longs and craves so deeply inside that i have yet to receive.There is something so much more than what i am seeing here.I feel no different so perhaps he replied no or more likely not yet, maybe my heart is not ready yet. although just the fact i wanted to try is a huge leap of faith for me, so any thoughts?
Trying to do what the apostles did in the past is simply like playing the spirit of the glass where the devil will come to the scene instead of the Holy Spirit especially if you try to heal a person using the name of the Lord or try to cast out a demon using the name of the Lord Jesus. The proper thing to do is to call on and come to the Lord Jesus today and ask Him to give to teach you the things you need to do to become His disciple and consult to Him all the things you do not understand in the bible and wait for Him to respond to you so that the devil may not be able to deceive you by any means.
 
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Trying to do what the apostles did in the past is simply like playing the spirit of the glass where the devil will come to the scene instead of the Holy Spirit especially if you try to heal a person using the name of the Lord or try to cast out a demon using the name of the Lord Jesus. The proper thing to do is to call on and come to the Lord Jesus today and ask Him to give to teach you the things you need to do to become His disciple and consult to Him all the things you do not understand in the bible and wait for Him to respond to you so that the devil may not be able to deceive you by any means.
Hmm... but that is not what Jesus taught us. did he not say with the faith of a mustard we will do greater things than what he did? Did God not bless all who believed and ask with the holy spirit on a powerful level? does God not choose to heal one who asks with a sincer heart?The fact he healed me by coming into my heart when i was at the lowest in mt life and as i begged him to save me is evidence to me. are we any different than the church the apostles took care of who also recieved this? if so then how?
 

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I just started to read a book called miracles can be yours today and was inspired by it. This book even though i only just started reading it speaks of how we can do the same things as the apostles with the same holy spirit with tongues as they had. even gave an account by how a small group of church ppl decided to test this belief by putting their hands on a girl and asked God to pour unto her the same holy spirit as he gave unto the apostles. and suddenly she was and began speaking in tongues.Reading this story made me want to see if this could be true. A thought ran through my head of the scripture to test all spirits but not in the way to see if its true but almost as if God was telling me to test him in this and i remembered ask and you shall receive. but i thought to myself surely it cannot be that simple, but i wanted to try anyways. I got on my knees and before asking for the holy spirit as he gave the apostles Asked God that if i am asking this without the right heart or motive to say no but give me such a heart and motive that he seeks. I then asked God for such a spirit as the apostles but not for me to use on myself but to heal, clean and love others. for it to be out of love for both God and all his children. I asked but i knew my faith is not near strong enough. i told him how i cannot say to this mountain to move or fall and it happen. so i did not use my faith but gave it all to him, asking him to take the reins and do as his will is even if the answer is no.tbh i feel inside i am supposed to be doing something more here, there seems to be a connection with God my soul longs and craves so deeply inside that i have yet to receive.There is something so much more than what i am seeing here.I feel no different so perhaps he replied no or more likely not yet, maybe my heart is not ready yet. although just the fact i wanted to try is a huge leap of faith for me, so any thoughts?
My friend, you're an apostle. I wouldn't heed to the teachings of this book if I were you. The purpose of those apostolic signs and wonders was to confirm the word they were speaking. The apostolic ministry has ceased.
God bless.
 
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John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

The Lord told us we would do these works and greater. The church is still trying to get up. The Prophet that found the bones scattered about... that is like the church. He said will these bones live. As we get closer to Christ coming I believe you will see these works.
 

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I hate to say it, but most people on this forum don't believe in that kind of stuff, as you will soon find out.
Don't believe what others are saying about it being a sign for the apostles. God is still into confirming His word and promises, for He watches over and hastens to perform it. It's not about a sign, but about faith and it is faith that causes God to move. Problem is, most don't know how to walk in it or how it works.
 
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Hmm... but that is not what Jesus taught us. did he not say with the faith of a mustard we will do greater things than what he did?
It is written in the bible but does God say it to you today? Does it mean that everyone who will be able to read that verse in the bible today means that God is talking to that everyone? Is the Lord God the bible?

Did God not bless all who believed and ask with the holy spirit on a powerful level? does God not choose to heal one who asks with a sincer heart?
How will you be able to know that except you presume?


The fact he healed me by coming into my heart when i was at the lowest in mt life and as i begged him to save me is evidence to me. are we any different than the church the apostles took care of who also recieved this? if so then how?
Thank God that He healed you but to immitate what the apostles did in healing then is another thing. The difference between us and the apostles then is that they were under the teaching of the Lord while various churches today are under the teaching of men pastors and the bible.
 
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Miracles prove nothing
in fact in the end of times the false church will have the miracles

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

The most evil people will do the greatest miracles
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast (Evil country with power) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (Evil country with power) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast (Evil country with power), whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast (Evil country with power), that the image of the beast (Evil country with power)should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

So
if you are susceeptible to miracles, you will be decieved soon.

the false christ that glows with glory and heals the sick DOES NOT HAVE SCARS IN HIS HANDS because the false christ is not allowed to have scars in his hands
it is a false christ, he will claim to have changed Sabbath to Sunday, this is how you will know he is a false christ, God cannot change his law, he cannot make a mistake.
 
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2 Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2 Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2 Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
that is why he is called a deciever

so dont you think just before he comes working miracles, he will have his publishers publish a book proclaiming miracles are good?
Toss the Book, get back to the Bible and get ready for that grand delusion..
 
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We cannot perform miracles. God performs them every single day and they are His to perform.
 
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I just started to read a book called miracles can be yours today and was inspired by it. This book even though i only just started reading it speaks of how we can do the same things as the apostles with the same holy spirit with tongues as they had. even gave an account by how a small group of church ppl decided to test this belief by putting their hands on a girl and asked God to pour unto her the same holy spirit as he gave unto the apostles. and suddenly she was and began speaking in tongues.Reading this story made me want to see if this could be true. A thought ran through my head of the scripture to test all spirits but not in the way to see if its true but almost as if God was telling me to test him in this and i remembered ask and you shall receive. but i thought to myself surely it cannot be that simple, but i wanted to try anyways. I got on my knees and before asking for the holy spirit as he gave the apostles Asked God that if i am asking this without the right heart or motive to say no but give me such a heart and motive that he seeks. I then asked God for such a spirit as the apostles but not for me to use on myself but to heal, clean and love others. for it to be out of love for both God and all his children. I asked but i knew my faith is not near strong enough. i told him how i cannot say to this mountain to move or fall and it happen. so i did not use my faith but gave it all to him, asking him to take the reins and do as his will is even if the answer is no.tbh i feel inside i am supposed to be doing something more here, there seems to be a connection with God my soul longs and craves so deeply inside that i have yet to receive.There is something so much more than what i am seeing here.I feel no different so perhaps he replied no or more likely not yet, maybe my heart is not ready yet. although just the fact i wanted to try is a huge leap of faith for me, so any thoughts?

we are to wait for the latter rain as in the days of pentecost God has His time

it is going to be a war i say Gods people vesrse the evil as in Moses verse the pharohs men lets wait and see
 
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You can tell the deceiver because in 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 it says
1. They believe not the word of God
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2. They keep having plesure in unrighteous living - fornication, adultery etc.
 
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Okay i see there are many who say it is not possible or we shouldn't do it. I admit i have seen ppl pretend to do miracles just to make bank and fool many. But to say God no longer does this,... All i see is doubt and unbelief, not meaning to be mean of course but this is why you do not see these things. I am not seeking a sign from this, but i felt moved to try and who is to say it won't or shouldn't happen? We humans put God in a box so much, but what might happen if one soul decided to believe outside the box and take Gods words as it says when he promises something?
 

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In John 14;12, Christ was talking to his disciples when he said; "I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father". And they did go on to do greater works, in the sense of more miracles and preaching to more people. The reason you don't and won't see it today, is because that authority was a gift reserved for the apostles in order to usher in and establish the gospel. Just as God chose prophets for a specific purpose and gave them some divine power, it was also so for his chosen apostles. jmo
 
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My friend, you're an apostle. I wouldn't heed to the teachings of this book if I were you. The purpose of those apostolic signs and wonders was to confirm the word they were speaking. The apostolic ministry has ceased.
God bless.
I agree wholeheartedly that signs and wonders were confirmation of God's word and presence amongst men. However, I don't agree that the apostolic age has ceased.

When the apostles died God's presence didn't die with them nor did it remain encased in written pages. It is alive, sharper than a double edged sword. If it has the power to convict and convert it also has the power to heal and deliver.

I suspect that many who oppose healings and miracles today struggle with the questions as to why all sicknesses are not healed. It is therefore easier to deny than to avoid disappointment and difficult questions.
 
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I agree wholeheartedly that signs and wonders were confirmation of God's word and presence amongst men. However, I don't agree that the apostolic age has ceased.

When the apostles died God's presence didn't die with them nor did it remain encased in written pages. It is alive, sharper than a double edged sword. If it has the power to convict and convert it also has the power to heal and deliver.

I suspect that many who oppose healings and miracles today struggle with the questions as to why all sicknesses are not healed. It is therefore easier to deny than to avoid disappointment and difficult questions.

For myself, I oppose healing and miracles today because there is no evidence of any sickness being healed other than by normal natural or medical means.
Nearly every miracle healing can be falsified or attributed to natural means.
Research faith healings and try to find anything that has been confirmed or documented or published in a medical journal.
 
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I haven't found that (yet). Perhaps the author was inspired to write that watching "Matrix"...
 
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And at risk of being called a heretic , we must honestly admit that the miracles/healings of NT cannot be confirmed either.
That is why we BELIEVE and have FAITH
something to think about...
 
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For myself, I oppose healing and miracles today because there is no evidence of any sickness being healed other than by normal natural or medical means.
Nearly every miracle healing can be falsified or attributed to natural means.
Research faith healings and try to find anything that has been confirmed or documented or published in a medical journal.
I have heard God or Jesus heal. In fact some friends have spoken of that. But there also are satanic "healings", just to take people away from Jesus and God, particularly when those people "healed" said it was the "virgin" Mary or someone's else miracle.
 
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I have heard God or Jesus heal. In fact some friends have spoken of that. But there also are satanic "healings", just to take people away from Jesus and God, particularly when those people "healed" said it was the "virgin" Mary or someone's else miracle.

Satanic healings cannot be confirmed either...for all we know either medicine heals our bodies, our body heals itself, or our brain can be tricked to make us think we feel better. No outside force is known/observed/confirmed to have any healing power over our bodies.