So...how old is the Earth?

[DieuMerci]

3246+G1+60y7m+G2+477+G3+2038=C

3246=number of years from Adam's creation untill Samson's death.

G1=number of years from Samson's death untill Eli's judgeship.

60y7m=sixty years, seven months; number of years from the begining of Eli's judgeship until the end of the ark's stay at Kereat Yearem.

G2=number of years from the last year of the ark's stay at Kereat Yearem until the first year of Saul's reign.

477=number of years from the first of Saul's reign untill the last of Zedekiah's.

G3=number of years from the end of Zedekiah's reign untill Jesus Christ's birth.

2038=number of years from Christ's birth untill the current year.

C=Current year(age of creation) in biblical years.



5993-C=G4

6000-C=G5

7000-C=G6

 

[DieuMerci]

G1+G2+G3=maximum of 172. C=minimum of 5821, and maximum of 5993.

 

[AnRev]

Which verse in Daniel do you have that refers to 7000 year prophecy?

Daniel does not give away the time frame in his visions. Neither does Ezekiel. However, in Ez 43:26-27 we find this: 'Seven days they shall make atonement for the altar and purify it, and so consecrate it.'When these days are over it shall be, on the eighth day and thereafter."

The war with Gog and Magog described in chapter 38 and 39 in Ezekiel tells of a massive war between God and them. This war is also found in Rev 20:7 & 8.

Ezekiel says this war will happen in the later days, since Rev chapter 20 is talking about the time after the millennium we can deduce that the war Ezekiel is talking about is the same war John is talking about and so we have a time frame beginning to establish.

If you take what Jesus said "pray that your flight be not in the winter or on the Sabbath," we know that He is talking about a seventh day in procession. But where did it start?

Dan 9:23 "At the beginning of your supplications the command went out." The command was to restore the kingdom of God. That includes bringing in the Messiah, the millennium, the time after, the war after, the day of judgment, followed by the eighth day Ezekiel talked about.

Seven days, or seven thousand years in our time until the kingdom is restored.

G1+G2+G3=maximum of 172. C=minimum of 5821, and maximum of 5993.

Your 5993 is close to my 6080. I don’t think anyone can tell exactly since years were not relevant until the time of Jesus. The moon and stars dictated years.

Some ask how is it that God can create a universe that is still growing at a slower rate than would be if it was created. That is how evolution thinks.

God created all things and in the process he created physical law. Creation is much faster, The healings that Jesus did were instant and much faster than physical law. Therefore, physical law is not a relative term to use when considering creation. Just thought I’d mention that.

 

[DieuMerci]

3246+G1+60y7m+G2+503+G3+2038=C

503=number of years from the first year of Saul's reign untill the 37th year of Yehoyakhin's exile. Dec 25th of that year Evel-Merodakh released him from prison.

G3=the number of years from that day untill dec 25th 1 BC.

G1+G2+G3=maximum of 146. C=minimum of 5847y7m, MAXIMUM of 5993.

 

[DieuMerci]

3246+G1+60y7m+G2+547+G3+2038=C

547=number of years from Saul's first year as king, until Cyrus' first year. 503+44. 44=number of years from Yehoyakhen's 37th year in exile untill the first year of Cyrus.

G3=number of years from the first year of Cyrus until Jesus Christ's birth.

G1+G2+G3=Maximum of 102. C=minimum of 5891, maximum, of 5993.

 

[DieuMerci]

G1=minimum of 8 months and 13 days.

G4=maximum of 100 years, 8 months and 17 days.

 

[DieuMerci]

CORRECTION: the first number is 3248, not 3246. The other numbers depeding on that one then need to be adjusted accordingly.

 

[DieuMerci]

(The following was an edit of my previous post [#327], but the five minute limit for editing expired before i finished)

CORRECTION: the first number is 3248, not 3246. The other numbers depeding on that one then need to be adjusted accordingly. Also, there is a gap between Joshua's death and the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el became judge. Saul(Paul) gives an 'about' for the period of 400 years of slavery, 40 years in the desert, and conquest of Canaan up until the judges ruled, and it is '450'. This number is atleast 20 years short of the actual number. This can be proven by two numbers in the book of Joshua. He(Joshua) says that he was 40 when the 40 years of wandering began. The other is his age when he died, which is 110. 40+40=80(Joshua's age when Moses and Aaron died, and he became the 'judge' of the Israelites). 110-80=30(number of years he judged). So 400+40+30=470. But the elders who outlived Joshua ruled and during that time the Israelites served the LORD. So, again, the gap is from Joshua's death untill the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el became judge. In the 66(the Bible) the only clue i have is it's two witnesses to Sefer Ha-Yashar. The most respected copy of this book I've found, says in it's last chapter that this period lasted 17 years(assuming there is no gap from the time the elders reigned until the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el reigned), but if we were to trust this book about that, it wouldn't be equitable not to point out that in its geneology of Shem, it makes no mention of 'the second Caynan', in opposition to the LXX, and Luke's geneology of Jesus. Interesting to me was that the gap that 'the second Caynan' provides is a period of 130 years. If you take the age of Abram when he left Haran, and substract it from Terah's age when he died you get that same number. Not sure what that means, but it struck me odd. if we were to exclude the second Caynan from the chronology and include Sefer Ha-Yashar's number for the time the elders ruled the number would be: 3135. There still is some uncertainty about when in Terah's life Abram was born. I think it's safe to say it was between his 70th year and his 130th year. The translater of Sefer Ha-Yashar places it at his 70th year. Which is what i did in the present numbers. But upon further study i discovered the initial reason for this correction. There was a gap of 2 years after the flood, before Shem was 100, and Arpaksad was born. The language used in the geneology before the flood, about Noah and his sons, is the same that's used in the one after it about Terah, and his sons. It says that 'after he was' a certain age he had those sons. and when you do the math about Shem, you learn that Noah wasn't 500 when Shem was born, but he was 502. In the same way i feel there might be a gap between Terah's 70th year and Abram's birth. I would say it was no later than his 130th year, but it could have been, because there might be a gap between his death at 205 and Abram's 75th year. Further study and God's favor will reveal these answers.

 

[Graybeard]

you must have a brain throb by now!

 

[Chico_Zimbabwe]

(The following was an edit of my previous post [#327], but the five minute limit for editing expired before i finished)

CORRECTION: the first number is 3248, not 3246. The other numbers depeding on that one then need to be adjusted accordingly. Also, there is a gap between Joshua's death and the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el became judge. Saul(Paul) gives an 'about' for the period of 400 years of slavery, 40 years in the desert, and conquest of Canaan up until the judges ruled, and it is '450'. This number is atleast 20 years short of the actual number. This can be proven by two numbers in the book of Joshua. He(Joshua) says that he was 40 when the 40 years of wandering began. The other is his age when he died, which is 110. 40+40=80(Joshua's age when Moses and Aaron died, and he became the 'judge' of the Israelites). 110-80=30(number of years he judged). So 400+40+30=470. But the elders who outlived Joshua ruled and during that time the Israelites served the LORD. So, again, the gap is from Joshua's death untill the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el became judge. In the 66(the Bible) the only clue i have is it's two witnesses to Sefer Ha-Yashar. The most respected copy of this book I've found, says in it's last chapter that this period lasted 17 years(assuming there is no gap from the time the elders reigned until the 8 years of trouble before Otne'el reigned), but if we were to trust this book about that, it wouldn't be equitable not to point out that in its geneology of Shem, it makes no mention of 'the second Caynan', in opposition to the LXX, and Luke's geneology of Jesus. Interesting to me was that the gap that 'the second Caynan' provides is a period of 130 years. If you take the age of Abram when he left Haran, and substract it from Terah's age when he died you get that same number. Not sure what that means, but it struck me odd. if we were to exclude the second Caynan from the chronology and include Sefer Ha-Yashar's number for the time the elders ruled the number would be: 3135. There still is some uncertainty about when in Terah's life Abram was born. I think it's safe to say it was between his 70th year and his 130th year. The translater of Sefer Ha-Yashar places it at his 70th year. Which is what i did in the present numbers. But upon further study i discovered the initial reason for this correction. There was a gap of 2 years after the flood, before Shem was 100, and Arpaksad was born. The language used in the geneology before the flood, about Noah and his sons, is the same that's used in the one after it about Terah, and his sons. It says that 'after he was' a certain age he had those sons. and when you do the math about Shem, you learn that Noah wasn't 500 when Shem was born, but he was 502. In the same way i feel there might be a gap between Terah's 70th year and Abram's birth. I would say it was no later than his 130th year, but it could have been, because there might be a gap between his death at 205 and Abram's 75th year. Further study and God's favor will reveal these answers.

WTF??? Seriously dude. Have you considered dating? It's nice. Try it!

 

[CIRBaptist]

Graybeard:

2 Peter 3:8-9 (New International Version)


8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

This is often used by never right...see it appeases neither Secular Science, which states modern man did not appear until 6 million years ago in Africa, nor the biblical account which clearly (even in the Hebrew) meant one day, evening and morning in Mesopotamian. (which is oddly called by the Science the cradle of life) lol.



The difficulty is trying to jive simple Creationist theology with Secular Science.

Answer; Don't do it. Simply Believed God when he said he made the Earth in six days. Follow God, ask him and he will never let you down. Certainly didn't need Science to tell him how old to make it.

A quick praise Thank you Jesus for your blessing of knowledge about nutrition amen.

 

[CIRBaptist]

Dispense with the insults for a moment and think, hm? Imagine yourself in the late 1930s, early 1940s. You live in Berlin and are hiding some Jews in your house. The Gestapo comes banging on your door and asks if you are hiding Jews.

What do you do? Do you lie and save the lives of the Jews in your home? Or do you tell the truth and sign their death warrant?

Let's all relax about about this discussion. Not everyone in here is going to have a spirtual view on this subject.

Either way cool it with the references to the Third Reich.

 

[papak]

Well..One thing I know for sure...when I got here...IT WAS HERE...so it has to be pretty old......Keep Praying One For Another...United Together-Headed To Heaven......check out my website.....UPLIFTERLANDEAST MINISTRIES....YOU CAN GOOGLE IT.....THANKS...KENNY....PAPA K...

 

[CIRBaptist]

Well..One thing I know for sure...when I got here...IT WAS HERE...so it has to be pretty old......Keep Praying One For Another...United Together-Headed To Heaven......check out my website.....UPLIFTERLANDEAST MINISTRIES....YOU CAN GOOGLE IT.....THANKS...KENNY....PAPA K...

When I got here, it was here, so it has to be old"



What does that have to do with anything?

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United Together-Headed To Heaven



What does that mean? Unity has nothing to do with our destination.. P Lease don't use this board for advertising.

 

[AnRev]

It says that 'after he was' a certain age he had those sons. and when you do the math about Shem, you learn that Noah wasn't 500 when Shem was born, but he was 502.

There is no doubt that there is some controversy over Shem and Noah. I will quote some of my own work:

quoting: Lamech, Noah’s father, died five years before the flood.

Shem’s birth may be a contradiction to the bibles given time table. Consider this: Noah was 500 years old when he begot Shem. He was 600 years old when the flood came. So either there is a double meaning here, or the time line is not the same. If Shem was 100 when he begot Arphaxad two years after the flood, then there is no way that Noah begot him 100 years before the flood. 100 years plus 2 is 102 years. The only way for this to fit is if Noah was 502 or if the time given was when the flood started and not finished. That would mean that Shem’s son Arphaxad would have been born on the Ark. But the bible doesn’t tell us that, it tells us that he was born two years after the flood.

“This is the genealogy of Shem: Shem was one hundred years old, and begot Arphaxad two years after the flood.” Gen 11:10 Compare that to this: “And Noah was five hundred years old, and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth.” Gen 5:32 -----Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters were on the earth.” Gen 7:6

If Noah was 600 when the earth was flooded, then it is impossible for Shem to have begot Arphaxad two years after the flood at 100 years old if Noah begot him at age 500. Even if you consider a nine month carry time of him during his wife’s pregnancy it doesn’t fit. This is one of those contradictions that’s in the bible, and one that makes it hard to come up with a time line as well. The only way that it would fit is if the author meant that Shem was 100 years old, and two years later begot Arphaxad. Perhaps this what he means by “two years after the flood.” end quoting.


Noah was born 1056 years after creation. The flood came 1656 years after creation of Adam.

To quote some more of my own work:

As you can see, many of the great bible people were alive at the same time. For instance; Adam, Seth, Enosh, Cainan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, and Lamech, were all alive at the same time.

After Adam died; Seth, Enosh, Cainan, Mahalalel, Jared, Methuselah, Lamech, and Noah, were all alive at the same time, but not Enoch because he was taken before Noah was born. Enoch died, or was taken, 57 years after Adam died.

Moving on, after the flood; Noah, Shem, Arphaxad, Salah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, and Abraham, were all alive at the same time. Notice that Noah died 115 years after Abraham was born. How ironic is it that the bible doesn’t mention it to us like this? end quote.

 

[Ex-SOLDIER]

So, the Bible says the Earth is 6000 years old yet there is an abundance of evidence against this the Earth appears to be 4 billion or so years old. What do we do, has the Bible got the Earth's age wrong? I am confused.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

So, the Bible says the Earth is 6000 years old yet there is an abundance of evidence against this the Earth appears to be 4 billion or so years old. What do we do, has the Bible got the Earth's age wrong? I am confused.

What evidence? I have never heard of any legitimate evidence that dates the earth at 4 billion years, but I have seen 'evidence' of 1 billion year old chicken bones, it's just 'science falsely called', none of it is true, we live in a world of lies.

 

[Ex-SOLDIER]

So every single last fossil is a lie?

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

So every single last fossil is a lie?

Bones don't last very long, they break down within a year or two or they just eaten, unless there preserved in some way, then their shelf life might extend to hundreds maybe thousands of years, many 'bones' that you see displayed in museums and the like are either not very old or they are just plaster casts, they are not actual real bones, dinosaur 'bones' are plaster cast, if you ask to see real dinosaur bones they will be tucked away in the basement, if you see them there will be a few fragments that don't look like anything other than bone fragments you might find anywhere, just animal bones mostly.

 

[pickles]

I dont know about that with the bones. I had the fossilized jaw of a dinasoar. It was given to me as a child by a catholic proffesor. It was very real. I donated it to a local school many years ago. Gods creation is what it is. Dinos were probably included because God knew we would need oil. All that is important iswhat God did, and that God said it, so I believe it.
God bless, pickles