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Do you believe America has gone away from the bible?


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Feb 28, 2014
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Many things in the bible have leaned me further away from Christianity and leaves me confused. We pray to jesus and have to be like him yet, I see 10% of Christians LIVING like him. Must we not be like him and learn? To be a good christian we must not just "believe in jesus and live life" .. We also have to abide by the rules he gave us.

Who is jesus?

(John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’.
(John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’
(Mathew 19:16-17) ‘One of the persons approaches Jesus, and says ‘Good Master, what good things shall I do, that I shall attain eternal life.’ And Jesus said unto him, ‘Why do you call me good? For there is none good, except One, that is God – And if you want to enter life, keep the commandments’.



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“Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.” John 3:4

"your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid His face from you, that He will not hear” (Isa. 59:2)

mathew 12:36
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,

Did jesus die for our sins or will we be judged?

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Why do we not follow jesus the way he wants us to

Mathew 5:48
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect"

Why do we drink alcohol and Muslims dont
Ephesians 5:18
"And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,"


(Deuteronomy 14:8) ‘And the pig is unclean to you, because though it has a division in the horn of its foot, its food does not come back; their flesh may not be used for food or their dead bodies touched by you.’

1 Corinthians 6:9
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"
makes sense why Muslims practice this yet we make fun of them..




Corinthians 11:6
"For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head."
why do you hate our muslim sisters for when god tells our women to do so


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Jesus always greeted people with "peace be upon you"
tell me why muons always say that when they meet someone


many many verses about praying to god while face on ground.. Prostration
explain why we don't do these things please

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“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” Mathew 5:17
why do some say, the Old Testament is now to be followed?

Matthew 4:4: “…Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.”

“If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15)
why do so many Christians eat pork, drink alcohol etc etc.
we make the Muslims look good when they follow our book and they're book better than us.



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why do Muslims follow more things mentioned in the Koran and bible and Torah more than us and Jews?
why do we make fun of them for doing so when it is us who should be doing.


Mathew 5:44
"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,"
 

Apostol2013

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Jan 27, 2013
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Well let no man deceive you and have knowledge of the Lord know that he is righteousness and as we have died with jesus that we may be risen in his glory ' we are to die to sin and allow the word of God to live in us and for us making Him our LORD , THEN it is our LORD doing it for us in the life after the spirit in all aspects of love 1john3:16
 
Feb 28, 2014
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Completely ignored my post. ?
Not only believe in jesus. But follow his actions.
 
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biscuit

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Completely ignored my post. ?
Not only believe in jesus. But follow his actions.
Post is confusing? Are you asking questions or teaching a bible class? Or both.
 
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nathan3

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#5
What is the purpose of talking about religions ? Christianity is a reality. This country the U.S is still more free then other nations , open your eyes and look. Try going to Saudi Arabia, or Iran, and then try to practice Christianity there; you'll be running back to the U.S before you knew what hit you.

Following Christ actions dose not mean admire the enemy.
 
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spectre

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your question,,has America gone away from the Bible?" answer yes

when you have large number of churches advocating same sex marriage and abortion, when you have churches teaching and following eastern mysticism, along with socialism or communism then the answer is a big yes. Then you have a strong movement to join Christianity with the beast from hell islam,, not a good marriage
 
Oct 31, 2011
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Our world is a physical world, it contains both sin and the spirit of the Lord. Our minds and bodies know about sin, but they are here just a little while in eternal time, then if we are accepted, we go on to another life that is purely spiritual.

Who is Jesus? As soon as God saw we chose to know sin, Jesus worked out a plan so we could live on with Him in a world without sin, and that plan was Jesus. The plan was for Jesus to live as a man, go through death, and in a miraculous was pay for the sins of humans who knew sin. It was about 4,000 years after the world was populated with man that God lived on earth and died for our sins, but until then God used the blood of animals as a symbol of Jesus. It was an elaborate plan, and I think pretty complicated. The entire thing was worked around using blood for atonement, symbolic of the blood of Christ and didn't work as well as the actual blood of Christ. Those who believed God about this and repented of their sin and tried to live as God laid out were preserved in what they called sleep. When Christ was crucified, the real blood of Christ allow these people to live with Christ. It was a glorious day, a heavy curtain in the temple was split on this day announcing it.

Now, if you will read all the complicated ways that the blood of animals was used, you will see how the blood of Christ is used for a better way, a more complete way of forgiveness so we can be cleaned of sin, and what sin we needed cleansed from.

Christ's life as a man on our planet also ushered in the Holy Spirit available for all who accepts Him. When we have this within us we can better understand the spiritual world. Without that, the temporal world appears to us to be the only way of living. When this is added to our being, it enables us to see the spiritual is active in our world. It is the difference between people who know how intellectualism and reason runs our world, and those who know that there is a God whose principles are superior to any of that.

We are in the last days, and demons have been let loose in our world, they are attacking the Christian Church. Anything they can do to make the church accept sin in their lives are attacking even those who love the Lord. Demons use any sin that any person accepts as an access point into lives, and the spiritual battle is between sin and God. So demons in our world are using anything to oppose the Lord. They use our leaders. The US President announced the immoral sex was admirable. The Leader of France parades immorality. Demons use scripture. We are told about how God wants us to live our lives and we are given the Holy Spirit to help, but demons use this truth to convince us that we have the Holy Spirit so anything we do is OK. Because you see this in people who are not living by how Christ said is not a reason to not listen to Christ.

Many people follow the rules, now, better than the Christians do. Many philosophies know the rules better. Muslim sects say they know how to live better. We have a huge church called Mormon that uses the rules of living better than the Christians now do. Muslims brag they know the rules better. Many Christians are saying the rules don't count, they have Christ so they don't have to follow rules. We have to go to scripture to find the truth, that the Holy Spirit and Christ are superior, but the rules reflect them.

But the bottom line is who is God. Can the God you serve save? Do you follow what scripture says God is, or not.

Many people who go to churches today are not following God. You cannot judge God by the people who not follow Him. When you do you will find that you can follow the rules and miss God, but if you insist the rules don't count, God can't be within you. God and His truth stands above it all.
 
Jul 27, 2011
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It doesn't seem right for a person to blame bible for leading them away from Jesus, sounds like something satan would say. we are not called to pray to Jesus, but to pray in His name to the Father. Some religions are more firm in their beliefs than some Christians seem to be in theirs, but the Almighty see's the heart and knows who is really seeking, and will reveal who Jesus is, in His time not ours. Like Solomon said there is a season for everything.
 
Dec 12, 2013
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You have to ask?.....

Sexual immorality and the embracement of homosexuality, beastiality etc. is the (straw) that breaks the camel's back and is a sure sign of the impending judgment of God that will be poured out upon America.....and it is coming soon!
 
Dec 12, 2013
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your question,,has America gone away from the Bible?" answer yes

when you have large number of churches advocating same sex marriage and abortion, when you have churches teaching and following eastern mysticism, along with socialism or communism then the answer is a big yes. Then you have a strong movement to join Christianity with the beast from hell islam,, not a good marriage
I agree with this for sure!.............

Hey how is (Maxwell Smart) doing? hahhahah you know...agent 66!
 
Jun 30, 2011
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are we supposed to follow people, or Jesus Christ?
Is the gate wide or narrow with few people finding it?
Is there supposed to be a great falling away?
Do we have to work out our own salvation in fear and trembling knowing that is is God who works in us?

If anything the actions of people should make you further seek the grace of the Lord Jesus, or you might be trollish
 
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eternally-gratefull

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its sounds like your trying to take the church back to law.

the reason your seeing 10% is most likely because only 10% have truly been born of God.

Those truly saved will change their lives. those who have mere belief (they believe but are not saved, because they have yet to have faith and assurance) will not.

plain and simple.
 
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spectre

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I agree with this for sure!.............

Hey how is (Maxwell Smart) doing? hahhahah you know...agent 66!
wrong spectre,, I am one the spectre gunship former crew member,, ac-130 gunship 71-74 Nam
 
Jun 30, 2011
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wrong spectre,, I am one the spectre gunship former crew member,, ac-130 gunship 71-74 Nam
Airborne ranger Airborne ranger how'd you get there?
in a C-130, flying low

i know not the same C-130 :D
 
Jun 30, 2011
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having four "big" guns helps alot:D
Definitely does - i always like the Call of duty parts where you get to be in the C130 gunship firing down on the enemy

of course I do - i don't actually have to load, unload the guns, or have earplugs, or worry about anything really - not the same I know
 
Feb 23, 2013
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Many things in the bible have leaned me further away from Christianity and leaves me confused. We pray to jesus and have to be like him yet, I see 10% of Christians LIVING like him. Must we not be like him and learn? To be a good christian we must not just "believe in jesus and live life" .. We also have to abide by the rules he gave us.

Who is jesus?

(John 5:30) ‘I (Jesus) by myself can do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy who has sent me’.
(John 17:3) ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent.’
(Mathew 19:16-17) ‘One of the persons approaches Jesus, and says ‘Good Master, what good things shall I do, that I shall attain eternal life.’ And Jesus said unto him, ‘Why do you call me good? For there is none good, except One, that is God – And if you want to enter life, keep the commandments’.



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“Whosoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.” John 3:4

"your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid His face from you, that He will not hear” (Isa. 59:2)

mathew 12:36
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,

Did jesus die for our sins or will we be judged?

----------


Why do we not follow jesus the way he wants us to

Mathew 5:48
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect"

Why do we drink alcohol and Muslims dont
Ephesians 5:18
"And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit,"


(Deuteronomy 14:8) ‘And the pig is unclean to you, because though it has a division in the horn of its foot, its food does not come back; their flesh may not be used for food or their dead bodies touched by you.’

1 Corinthians 6:9
"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,"
makes sense why Muslims practice this yet we make fun of them..




Corinthians 11:6
"For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head."
why do you hate our muslim sisters for when god tells our women to do so


-----------

Jesus always greeted people with "peace be upon you"
tell me why muons always say that when they meet someone


many many verses about praying to god while face on ground.. Prostration
explain why we don't do these things please

----------
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” Mathew 5:17
why do some say, the Old Testament is now to be followed?

Matthew 4:4: “…Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.”

“If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15)
why do so many Christians eat pork, drink alcohol etc etc.
we make the Muslims look good when they follow our book and they're book better than us.



---------
why do Muslims follow more things mentioned in the Koran and bible and Torah more than us and Jews?
why do we make fun of them for doing so when it is us who should be doing.


Mathew 5:44
"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,"
well i am no saint and am certainly not the best christian but god taught me to seek his love above all else and everything else will fall into place. if you are filled with love then there is not much room for anything else is there? the issue with 90%of these christians is not they lack understanding or wisdom or patience or even the correct doctrine but lack of love. although i would say its more like 80%
 
Jan 6, 2014
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Your confusion seems to be because you expect christians to be perfect as Jesus is perfect. I apologize and ask God the Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ for forgiveness and mercy during much of the time I am awake each day. I am sorry for my imperfections, you will never meet any perfect christians in this evil world, but you will find many contrite and humble followers of Jesus Christ, who patiently wait for him to complete his perfection in them.
As St Paul wrote:" Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own." Philippians 3:12
 
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captbuz

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Dear Layre333,

Salvation does not come to those who work for it, but comes to those who stop trying to earn it and place their trust
in our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 4:5 makes this point very clear. "To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him (Jesus Christ) that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." In Ephesians 2: 8&9, it is declared "For by grace ye are saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works least any man should boast."

The issue is not what you can do for God, but what he can do for you. Romans 5:8 says "But God commended his love
towards us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us". II Cor 5:21
says "He hath made him (Jesus)
to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we may be made the righteousness of God in Him". You have no righteousness of your own. To have eternal life you must have the righteousness of Christ ( see Romans 3:26)

What is your responsibility then?? God has given you a "free will" to either accept or reject what he has done for you. To have Gods righteousness you must believe/accept , in your heart, that I Cor 15:3&4 Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried; and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures".

Your response to the gospel should be as we read in Ephesians 1:13 - In whom ye trusted (our Lord Jesus Christ), after that ye heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that (God's) holy Spirit of promise. This SEAL is a garrantee that your salvation is eternal !!. - You
can never lose it. (See Ephesians 1:14, Ephesians 4:30 and II Cor 1:22).

This indwelling of Gods Holy Spirit, the moment you are saved, instantly starts to change the way you think, feel, understand.
it brings an inner peace that can't be described.
At this very moment you have the responsibilityof making a decision. If you are convinced by God's word, you can be saved right now. Simply make the decision in your heart to trust completely and exclusively in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ as the total payment, TO GOD, for your sins. The moment you do, God will forgive you of all your sins.

Please note my friend,

That at this time, God gives every human being the "Personal Choice" to make this decision. No one can make this choice for them. Everyone is given, until their last breath, to choose.

All the faults you pointed out in your statements above, are the same faults that every human being has. No one is without "SIN". The difference between us all is whether we choose the free gift of Gods salvation or not.

I hope and pray in Gods Name that this is helpful to you.

Your brother in Christ
 
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spectre

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Definitely does - i always like the Call of duty parts where you get to be in the C130 gunship firing down on the enemy

of course I do - i don't actually have to load, unload the guns, or have earplugs, or worry about anything really - not the same I know
I always found it convenient to stay inside a perfectly good plane