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i study ancient greek at school for 6 years, so i think i know where i'm talking about.
i cannot give you the original text, because you can't read greek i suppose.
but i found this, the story in english:
Aristophanes on Homosexual and Heterosexual Soul Mates
the thing you need begins about in the half.
about the ? at the end of my previous post: i don't believe in the ancient greek creating story.
i just wanted to state that some of the ancient greek creation stories are quite the same as the creation story in the bible.
i find it rather strange then that people believe the bible story, and laugh at the greek story, while they are quite the same at some points. it's just a curious thought.
also i cannot remember that i gave 'advice' in my previous post...
i said clearly it was just an anecdote
i cannot give you the original text, because you can't read greek i suppose.
but i found this, the story in english:
Aristophanes on Homosexual and Heterosexual Soul Mates
the thing you need begins about in the half.
about the ? at the end of my previous post: i don't believe in the ancient greek creating story.
i just wanted to state that some of the ancient greek creation stories are quite the same as the creation story in the bible.
i find it rather strange then that people believe the bible story, and laugh at the greek story, while they are quite the same at some points. it's just a curious thought.
also i cannot remember that i gave 'advice' in my previous post...
i said clearly it was just an anecdote
due to my lack of english knowledge, i missused the word marriage for relationship. i did not know another word for it at that moment.
nevertheless, the ancient greeks lived by their mythology. those stories were no fairytales for them, but truth. so i do can say homosexuallity was natural for them and accepted as relationship. even with younger boys, wich is called pederasty. this would now be called 'shotacon', or in the abusive form 'pedophilia'. although in ancient greece the younger boys always had to agree first, contrairy with pedophilia.
nevertheless, the ancient greeks lived by their mythology. those stories were no fairytales for them, but truth. so i do can say homosexuallity was natural for them and accepted as relationship. even with younger boys, wich is called pederasty. this would now be called 'shotacon', or in the abusive form 'pedophilia'. although in ancient greece the younger boys always had to agree first, contrairy with pedophilia.
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[h=2]Aristophanes was a comedy writer, you can not use what he suggests as a factual argument,,,[/h]
Aristophanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aristophanes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
yes i can. comedy then was different than comedy now. he letted the theaterplayers play what the myths say.
and if you look further on the page, you see that he is was also a poet.
besides, of course not every greek thought so. they were more tolerant than some people now.
they lived as citystates, not as one country.
and if you look further on the page, you see that he is was also a poet.
besides, of course not every greek thought so. they were more tolerant than some people now.
they lived as citystates, not as one country.
Danielle:
the bible says indeed that gay marriage is not okay.
at the opposite side, the bible sometimes says other strange things:
Dr Laura and Leviticus
and if you go to hell for all those little rules, then not many will go to heaven i'm afraid.
this letter also explains that you can't just take one thing out of the bible and forget the otherones.
you take them all or you take none.
just my thought, no offence
the bible says indeed that gay marriage is not okay.
at the opposite side, the bible sometimes says other strange things:
Dr Laura and Leviticus
and if you go to hell for all those little rules, then not many will go to heaven i'm afraid.
this letter also explains that you can't just take one thing out of the bible and forget the otherones.
you take them all or you take none.
just my thought, no offence
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Homosexuality is a sin, adultery is a sin, witchcraft is a sin, murder is a sin, lying is a sin. Let's be clear, God hates sin, but sent his son to die for sinners. Irrespective of whatever sin we have committed God loves us. However, the purpose of God's love is to lead us to repentance not to allow us to continue to sin. God is not passive and indifferent about sin. He hates it and makes clear in His word that the wages of sin are death. Homosexuality is not of God, it is a perversion and a curse - it is of the devil. It is one of the many identities and lies that the enemy tries to perpetuate on God's creation.
People who practice homosexuality are still beloved of God, not for their sinful practice, but rather inspite of their sin and because they are ones for whom Christ died. The role of the Church is to love and not to compromise the purity and integrity of God's word on this or any other issues relating to life and Godliness. Sin is intolerable to God and as partakers in the divine nature of the Most High God, it must be intolerable to us too.
Under no circumstances can the Church or should the Church be indifferent about homosexuality. In the book of Revelations 3:16 the bible makes clear that God hates lukewarm Christianity. Revelations states that the consequence of being lukewarm is that God will spew the lukewarm out of his mouth. Think about it - to spew something out of your mouth is to eject and reject it. That is the price of passivity and lukewarmness in our Christian life.
People who practice homosexuality are still beloved of God, not for their sinful practice, but rather inspite of their sin and because they are ones for whom Christ died. The role of the Church is to love and not to compromise the purity and integrity of God's word on this or any other issues relating to life and Godliness. Sin is intolerable to God and as partakers in the divine nature of the Most High God, it must be intolerable to us too.
Under no circumstances can the Church or should the Church be indifferent about homosexuality. In the book of Revelations 3:16 the bible makes clear that God hates lukewarm Christianity. Revelations states that the consequence of being lukewarm is that God will spew the lukewarm out of his mouth. Think about it - to spew something out of your mouth is to eject and reject it. That is the price of passivity and lukewarmness in our Christian life.
Hey, since you like greek anecdotes did you know this one?
When Zeus fashioned man he gave him certain inclinations, but he forgot about shame. Not knowing how to introduce her,
he ordered her to enter through the rectum. Shame baulked at this and was highly indignant. Finally, she said to Zeus:
‘All right! I’ll go in, but on the condition that Eros doesn’t come in the same way; if he does, I will leave immediately.’
Ever since then, all homosexuals are without shame.
When Zeus fashioned man he gave him certain inclinations, but he forgot about shame. Not knowing how to introduce her,
he ordered her to enter through the rectum. Shame baulked at this and was highly indignant. Finally, she said to Zeus:
‘All right! I’ll go in, but on the condition that Eros doesn’t come in the same way; if he does, I will leave immediately.’
Ever since then, all homosexuals are without shame.
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This is a false assertion that any serious sociology student would be able to refute. Sociology 101 teaches that people are social beings that interact. This interaction changes people and causes social change. Conversely, social change itself changes people. Not everyone, of course, but materially speaking.
In other words; people's beliefs, attitudes, decisions, and behaviors affect society influencing cultures, structures, and institutions, for better or worse, which, in turn, affect people.
Given the importance of people's beliefs, attitudes, decisions, and behaviors to their own lives, the lives of others, and society; it is imperative that they be rooted in reality. Unfortunately, increasingly they are not.
This is why if you live in the state of California, your son is now indoctrinated with the homosexual agenda and if they become deceived as a result and decide they are actually a girl the school will allow them to begin using the girl's bathroom. The school counselor will help them get started on hormone therapy as young as nine years of age in preparation for their sex change operation. In the meanwhile, he'll be a pre-op transsexual experimenting with great sexual sin with other boys and possibly men. His life will never ever be normal and he will be demonically oppressed and possibly die in his sin.
The fact that you don't want your son to be exposed to such great deception and immorality as a minor in the public school system is besides the point for it's the law now in California. You have no choice anymore. Obviously, gay "rights" have replaced your rights.
You can, of course, elect to remove your child from this immoral unhealthy environment but the state of California will still extort money from you for the public school system resulting in real hardship for your family as you basically double pay to educate your children.
It's ironic that the legislature implemented these laws with the judiciary's endorsement over the objections of the actual citizens of the state who voted the legislatures and judges into office and voted against gay marriage and the homosexual agenda being forced onto their children. Truly ironic.
You'll need to take a sociology 101 class and learn some fundamentals because you're making blatantly and observably false assertions such as this which reveal your ignorance with respect to the principles of sociology.
In other words; people's beliefs, attitudes, decisions, and behaviors affect society influencing cultures, structures, and institutions, for better or worse, which, in turn, affect people.
Given the importance of people's beliefs, attitudes, decisions, and behaviors to their own lives, the lives of others, and society; it is imperative that they be rooted in reality. Unfortunately, increasingly they are not.
This is why if you live in the state of California, your son is now indoctrinated with the homosexual agenda and if they become deceived as a result and decide they are actually a girl the school will allow them to begin using the girl's bathroom. The school counselor will help them get started on hormone therapy as young as nine years of age in preparation for their sex change operation. In the meanwhile, he'll be a pre-op transsexual experimenting with great sexual sin with other boys and possibly men. His life will never ever be normal and he will be demonically oppressed and possibly die in his sin.
The fact that you don't want your son to be exposed to such great deception and immorality as a minor in the public school system is besides the point for it's the law now in California. You have no choice anymore. Obviously, gay "rights" have replaced your rights.
You can, of course, elect to remove your child from this immoral unhealthy environment but the state of California will still extort money from you for the public school system resulting in real hardship for your family as you basically double pay to educate your children.
It's ironic that the legislature implemented these laws with the judiciary's endorsement over the objections of the actual citizens of the state who voted the legislatures and judges into office and voted against gay marriage and the homosexual agenda being forced onto their children. Truly ironic.
You'll need to take a sociology 101 class and learn some fundamentals because you're making blatantly and observably false assertions such as this which reveal your ignorance with respect to the principles of sociology.
the childeren are teached in school what the majority of people think.
wether that is the truth or not, it is called democraty.
if the majority of the people in the state itself voted against, then it is pressure from outside, from the majority of the world.
if here in belgium a teacher dares to teach the children that the evolution theory is correct, he gets fired immediatly. and not because of his belief itself.
actually the opposite of in (certain parts of) america, but then if the teacher says evolution and big bang is correct. Europe against America.
wether that is the truth or not, it is called democraty.
if the majority of the people in the state itself voted against, then it is pressure from outside, from the majority of the world.
if here in belgium a teacher dares to teach the children that the evolution theory is correct, he gets fired immediatly. and not because of his belief itself.
actually the opposite of in (certain parts of) america, but then if the teacher says evolution and big bang is correct. Europe against America.