Do You Need Financial breakthrough???

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Anonimous

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I see no edification in Word of Faith cult teachings.
Kinda hard to see something that isn't there. To hear them speak you would think God owes everyone everything. The thread title sounds like a preview for Parsley. "Send in that faith seed now..."
 
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Kerry

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If you need a finacial breakthrough, stop asking the Pastor and get on the bus and look for a job, God gave Adam a job before He gave Him Eve. Stop wining and get a job and get off welfare and food stamps that I have to pay for. Think better of yourself and do it. Oprah can wait and she already got her millions.
 

tourist

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Look no further here is a Principle that if you operate in faith in will bring results!

Proverbs 22:6
Start children off on the way they should go,
and even when they are old they will not turn from it.
Know most people read this passage and think that it is about training them up in the ways of God. But we know that there are PK's(Pastors Kids) and others that backslide and fall away from faith. To get the true context of this verse we only have to go to the next verse which is:

Proverbs 22:7
The rich rule over the poor,
and the borrower is slave to the lender.
So as my child grows i never want them to see me without money i only want them to hear the borrower is servant to the lender. We must break our view of poverty and start putting our eyes on The word what does the word say. The borrower is servant to the lender!!!
This being said what are some things that a Lender has over a Borrower i will mention 4.
1. interest
2. Date of Payment
3.Security
4. terms

1. Terms will be if i give one hundred dollars in an offering how much percent do i want on this offering. Lets say im giving a hundred dollars i choose how much interest i can get on that hundred dollar bill whether it is 1 percent or 1000 percent.
2. Date of Payment i choose when i get my money remember it is on your terms
3. security im stepping out by doing this give me something know so i know when that date comes ill have faith that i will get something back!
4. terms so you can choose to have it all on one day or choose to have payments up until that day again it is your terms.

This being established how do we begin to operate in this well there is a very interesting verse in proverbs 19:17


Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord,
and he will reward them for what they have done.

That word poor actually means a need. So if i lend to a need then i lend to the Lord. This is not the tithe this is above the tithe!! this is in the area of sowing a seed and reaping a harvest from it!! So therefore when i give to a need and give a hundred dollars to a need im literally lending to the Lord which activates those 4 priniciples. I can tell the Lord how much interest i want the date of payment the security and the terms! Because you lend to the Lord He literally becomes the borrower so therefore He will pay it back because He can not go against His word!!!!!

When you give step out give sacrificially in order to reap a harvest you must force the ground into production!! -Prophet Uebert Angel

I encourage you begin to put this into practice and you will see amazing things happen.
i will share a testimony!

I learned this principle and i began to operate in it immediately I sowed 100 dollars the most i had ever given at that time. When i did this i was also facing the music i needed money in order to survive on a mission trip to Washington D.C to eat and drink and somewhere to lay my head!! So i asked for atleast 2,000 dollars and i wanted it by the end of the trip and also i needed a plane ticket as well and i told him he could pay me back through out the three weeks i was there. so the next day a very well known pastor comes through the drive through that i know and i told him about the mission trip and he sowed the exact amount i had sowed the night before!!! Gloray!!!!!! Then i was able to get the plane ticket the next pay check if he would not have sown into the trip i would not have gone to D.C.

So when i leave for D.C i only have 90 dollars in my pocket i go. When i get there within 2 days im only down to 40 dollars! Then the next day by the end im up to 140 dollars. By the end of this trip i had a 300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits 70 dollars worth of Books. I had ties and then the last night as i was heading back to the DAR. I ran into this women she had heard about my testimony. Know that day before i got cloths i was blessed with 80 dollars!!!! So i met this women and she handed me a check and i was like praise God i am leaving with more then i came with. I open the check and it was a 500 dollar check and I
ALMOST PASSED OUT IN MY EXCITEMENT I HAD NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE.
THIS PRINCIPLE WORKS AND IF YOU OPERATE IN IT IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE I HOPE THIS SHORT TESTIMONY HAS INSPIRED YOU SO PLEASE STEP OUT!!!


THIS THREAD IS NOT OPEN TO DEBATE I AM HERE TO EDIFY AND NOT CAUSE DIVISION AMONG THE BODY SO IF YOU HAVE TO CONFESS NEGATIVE OR DOUBT AND UNBELIEF MOVE ON THIS IS NOT THE THREAD THANK YOU!!!!!




This is truly bizarre. What was the name of the casino again? I wanna piece of this action.
 
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Kerry

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#24
God is not a lottery, however as you give He gives, It may not be money, but your son getting saved and that toothache goes away or that pain in your side. God is awesome and does awesome stuff.
 
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i agree it was not all with cash and money but also with 2 jeans 4 shirts and 3 suits !!! but God also provided finances as well :)
 
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[video=youtube;sUYIWDPxpWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUYIWDPxpWE[/video]

Also those who are intrested in learning more on this watch this video teaches these principles more in depth by PROPHET UEBERT ANGEL and the teaching starts at 1 hour and 32 min. so enjoy those who are hungry and are going to break the spirit of poverty off your life!!!
 

JesusLives

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I have never been able to out give God, it seems the more I give to Him the more He takes care of me. There have been times when we were down to the last of anything whether food or money or whatever and even though it might have been at the last second God has always come through and my daughter and I have never gone hungry. God's timing is always perfect. Praise Him for His care of His children.
 

Nautilus

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ugh why are the word of faith cultists invading this site. Didnt we have enough to deal with from the kjv-onlyists?
 
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God is not a lottery, however as you give He gives, It may not be money, but your son getting saved and that toothache goes away or that pain in your side. God is awesome and does awesome stuff.
But i want to make it clear this prinicple put in to action will change your life God did exactly what i asked when i activated the four things :)
 

santuzza

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God does not work on the principle of quid pro quo.
 

skipp

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Meanwhile Iraqi Christians are dying for their faith.
 

JesusLives

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Don't get me wrong God is not obligated to do anything for me and I do not treat Him like a lottery or expect that because I give Him my meager funds that He has to take care of me. God has taken care of me because of His love for me and I am very thankful for that. But when you are down to beans and eggs and the food is gone and you have made it to your next pay day I am thankful that we had the beans and eggs and it is a real faith builder to watch God take care of me.

My earnings are death because I am a sinner, but God's grace gives me so much more than I deserve and builds my faith at the same time. The best gift ever - Jesus death on the cross so I can be reunited with God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. I can't give anything to repay that debt only my love and my heart and say yes to that gift. I can never out give God.
 
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there are principlesof the Kingdom
Here, try these principals on for size:


"I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
Yes, you yourselves know, that these hands have
ministered to my necessities, and to them that
were with me. I have showed you all things, how
that so laboring you ought to support the weak, and
to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he
said, It is more blessed to give than to receive"
(Acts 20:33-35 KJV).
The apostle Paul and others who served the elect of
God practiced what they preached. They worked
long and hard to support themselves in order to
preach the gospel and serve God's people:
To the Thessalonians he wrote:
"Don't you remember, dear brothers, how hard we
worked among you? Night and day we toiled and
sweated to earn enough to live on so that our
expenses would not be a burden to anyone there, as
we preached God's Good News among you"
(1.Thes.2:9 LBP).
"For you well know that you ought to follow our
example: you never saw us loafing; we never
accepted food from anyone without buying it; we
worked hard day and night for the money we needed
to live on, in order that we would not be a burden to
any of you. It wasn't that we didn't have the right to
ask you to feed us, but we wanted to show you,
firsthand, how you should work for your livin
(2.Thes.3:7-9 LBP).
 
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Here, try these principals on for size:


"I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
Yes, you yourselves know, that these hands have
ministered to my necessities, and to them that
were with me. I have showed you all things, how
that so laboring you ought to support the weak, and
to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he
said, It is more blessed to give than to receive"
(Acts 20:33-35 KJV).
The apostle Paul and others who served the elect of
God practiced what they preached. They worked
long and hard to support themselves in order to
preach the gospel and serve God's people:
To the Thessalonians he wrote:
"Don't you remember, dear brothers, how hard we
worked among you? Night and day we toiled and
sweated to earn enough to live on so that our
expenses would not be a burden to anyone there, as
we preached God's Good News among you"
(1.Thes.2:9 LBP).
"For you well know that you ought to follow our
example: you never saw us loafing; we never
accepted food from anyone without buying it; we
worked hard day and night for the money we needed
to live on, in order that we would not be a burden to
any of you. It wasn't that we didn't have the right to
ask you to feed us, but we wanted to show you,
firsthand, how you should work for your livin
(2.Thes.3:7-9 LBP).
Bro i could get into a debate with you and share scripture after scripture and we could do all that but i am not here to debate or even give ear or eye to doubt and unbelief im here to share what God has taught me and showed me so you may be skeptic thats fine i love you regaurdless but either way im going to keep sharing what God has shown me and taught me and when i put them to action and worked for me then i am to share that with the Body !! sorry bro i will not be going into a long debate with you
 

Angela53510

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The Health and a Wealth Gospel is the biggest heresy since Arius! There is only a relationship with Christ, not a bunch of cold business principles. And I will post to counter this deceptive lie of the devil!

There is an old saying about "Everything the devil gives you turns to ashes in the mouth."

Beware, my friend, you have fallen down a slippery slope!

PS Scriptures to come later when I am not bouncing around in the back of my truck! Isn't the internet grand?
 
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Sorry you feel that way only giving what the word says but do as you will im not here to debate or cause division love u Sister Angela Jesus is Lord!!!
 

Nautilus

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Bro i could get into a debate with you and share scripture after scripture and we could do all that but i am not here to debate or even give ear or eye to doubt and unbelief im here to share what God has taught me and showed me so you may be skeptic thats fine i love you regaurdless but either way im going to keep sharing what God has shown me and taught me and when i put them to action and worked for me then i am to share that with the Body !! sorry bro i will not be going into a long debate with you
Probably because you know its a losing proposition to get into a debate with someone who has bible literacy compared to your false doctrines.
 
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No it is pointless to continue with a debate that will go no where I am sharing principles that I have learned and have worked in my life if they bother you then go to another thread I have no intrest in debating and tearing one another down and all that and quite frankly I dont have time for it
 

Agricola

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Sorry you feel that way only giving what the word says but do as you will im not here to debate or cause division love u Sister Angela Jesus is Lord!!!
You do not want to debate because you know you will not win the debate. Prosperity is evil and straight from Satan. Just because things happen does not mean its from God.

I have seen and heard people who have been financially ruined chasing the pot of gold at the end of the name it and claim it rainbow, they gave everything they owned to a supposed need and told by the chap up front in the expensive suit, rolex watch and diamond rings that they would be blessed 100 times or whatever with the seed sown.

Guess what, nothing happened, the weeks rolled on, then the months went by, the family had no money back ,they were in serious debt and could not pay bills, no money to buy food, but when asked the nice man in the expensive suit and rolex watch told them to give it more time and just trust in God, months went by, nothing happened, then they asked again and were given a reply that they did not have enough faith and this lack of faith and lack of prayer contributed to nothing happening, so tough.

God is not a vending machine or cash point.