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This man is at Rodney Howard-Browne's church. This fellow himself is a false teacher/prophet.

Not only that, there's DOZENS of sites & videos stating that Angel is also.

Birds of a feather flock together. If a minister can't discern the spirit of a false prophet, It's because they are like-minded.

Any minister that runs with a false prophet/teacher is usually one themselves.

SOE, as a Pentecostal minister I would recommend that you leave these people immediately for your own spiritual safety.
Ok i see the fruit in rodneys ministry that is all about souls i see the fruit of a prophet in this mans life i know a man personally who was prophecied over by him and its already coming to pass so i see the fruit

Secondly if you are moving in the power of the kingdom there is always going to be opposition just like there are things that have been said about my apostle steve foss and His spiritual father morris cerullo and God led me to my home church before i even new who these people where so yeah sorry man but i see fruit :) God Bless you
 

Billyd

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I encourage you begin to put this into practice and you will see amazing things happen.
i will share a testimony!

I learned this principle and i began to operate in it immediately I sowed 100 dollars the most i had ever given at that time. When i did this i was also facing the music i needed money in order to survive on a mission trip to Washington D.C to eat and drink and somewhere to lay my head!! So i asked for atleast 2,000 dollars and i wanted it by the end of the trip and also i needed a plane ticket as well and i told him he could pay me back through out the three weeks i was there. so the next day a very well known pastor comes through the drive through that i know and i told him about the mission trip and he sowed the exact amount i had sowed the night before!!! Gloray!!!!!! Then i was able to get the plane ticket the next pay check if he would not have sown into the trip i would not have gone to D.C.

So when i leave for D.C i only have 90 dollars in my pocket i go. When i get there within 2 days im only down to 40 dollars! Then the next day by the end im up to 140 dollars. By the end of this trip i had a 300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits 70 dollars worth of Books. I had ties and then the last night as i was heading back to the DAR. I ran into this women she had heard about my testimony. Know that day before i got cloths i was blessed with 80 dollars!!!! So i met this women and she handed me a check and i was like praise God i am leaving with more then i came with. I open the check and it was a 500 dollar check and I
ALMOST PASSED OUT IN MY EXCITEMENT I HAD NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE.
THIS PRINCIPLE WORKS AND IF YOU OPERATE IN IT IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE I HOPE THIS SHORT TESTIMONY HAS INSPIRED YOU SO PLEASE STEP OUT!!!

Please elaborate on what you did for each of these increases.

On one trip to a meeting in St. Paul, MN, I left with an advance of $1K. When I left the meeting, I had saved my company $1.5M. When I returned home, there was a hefty bonus check waiting for me. My point is that I prayed for a safe trip, and a successful meeting. I also prayed that God would watch over my family while I was out of town. The first 10% of that bonus went to my church. It also contributed to a mission program, and restocked our ministry food pantry. My family was blessed, not because I lent to God, but because we love God and want His Gospel spread to everyone. That Gospel is not that He will make us wealthy, it is that His Son willingly gave His life on a Cross, and rose on the third day so that by His Grace, through our Faith in Him we will have everlasting life.

Today, I'm not able to work, my income is a lot less, but God continues to bless me, and I will continue to share his Gospel. God doesn't want us to be wealthy, He wants us to be Faithful.
 
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santuzza

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This thread actually makes me nauseous. Money is not something we as Christians should be striving for. The love of money is the root of all evil.

Note, I am NOT saying that money, itself, is evil. We all must have money. And God does give some folks more money than others. But God does not give the same gifts to everybody. If that were true, we would ALL be able to speak in tongues, and ALL of us would be preachers/teachers and ALL of us would be great administrators, etc. etc.

The idea that one could "bargain" with God is wholly repugnant. Did you bargain for your salvation? What did you give God if He were to save you from your sin and set you free?

I repeat my earlier quote: God does not deal in the principle of quid pro quo. Every gift from God is just that: a gift. We do not purchase them, nor do we bargain for them.

UGH!
 
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Ok i see the fruit in rodneys ministry that is all about souls i see the fruit of a prophet in this mans life i know a man personally who was prophecied over by him and its already coming to pass so i see the fruit

Secondly if you are moving in the power of the kingdom there is always going to be opposition just like there are things that have been said about my apostle steve foss and His spiritual father morris cerullo and God led me to my home church before i even new who these people where so yeah sorry man but i see fruit :) God Bless you
SOE, taking a card and reading it over 50 people on the street and praying a single sinners prayer over them, is not getting them saved. If Rodney Howard Browne was getting that many saved, and properly making disciples, he would need a larger church than they have.

We visited a church that did his program. Had his cards, spiel everything and and I went out on a few of their "witness" crusades and it was a joke.

The pastors son was in charge and during sunday night service he would boast about having gotten 150 saved that afternoon, but not one of them showed up to church.

Heed the warning already given and run from this outfit now.
 
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The_highwayman

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This thread actually makes me nauseous. Money is not something we as Christians should be striving for. The love of money is the root of all evil.

Note, I am NOT saying that money, itself, is evil. We all must have money. And God does give some folks more money than others. But God does not give the same gifts to everybody. If that were true, we would ALL be able to speak in tongues, and ALL of us would be preachers/teachers and ALL of us would be great administrators, etc. etc.

The idea that one could "bargain" with God is wholly repugnant. Did you bargain for your salvation? What did you give God if He were to save you from your sin and set you free?

I repeat my earlier quote: God does not deal in the principle of quid pro quo. Every gift from God is just that: a gift. We do not purchase them, nor do we bargain for them.

UGH!
Your losing me here, Money and resources are not gifts. Why are you confusing the Gifts with money/resources.
 

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No debate here. Just what I discovered.,I paid tithes and offerings for a couple of decades. We struggled continuously. Never seen a return. Then God told us to stop tithing. I stood on this verse. 'We know the grace of our Lord Jesus. Though He was rich He became poor for us that we through His poverty might be rich( have our needs supplied).'

After about 2 months, 900.00 showed up out of nowhere, right when we needed it desperately. About 2 months later another 900.00 showed up in another desperate hour. Been financially blessed ever since. God directs our giving to the poor. We give because we are already blessed by faith, not by the works of giving or buying His favor. That may work for some for a while but the far better way is to get the horse back ahead of the cart. Grace is the operative word here. Unmerited favor. You cannot earn His blessing. It's already been paid for. Faith unlocks the doors. Obedience to His still small voice is how it should work for those who have matured.

My wife went through cancer. No insurance. God led our steps and every dime of the 80,000.00 bill was taken care of. Not tithing involved.
When I jettisoned the tithing,the financial blessings started flowing........by grace....by faith....by listening to Him...not the pulpit.

Like a mam building up. When I finally got out from underneath the law....works that is....it untied Gods hands. All I can speak to is those things I have seen and heard and experienced.

The give and it shall be given is speaking about mercy.
 
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Jackson123

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No debate here. Just what I discovered.,I paid tithes and offerings for a couple of decades. We struggled continuously. Never seen a return. Then God told us to stop tithing. I stood on this verse. 'We know the grace of our Lord Jesus. Though He was rich He became poor for us that we through His poverty might be rich( have our needs supplied).'

After about 2 months, 900.00 showed up out of nowhere, right when we needed it desperately. About 2 months later another 900.00 showed up in another desperate hour. Been financially blessed ever since. God directs our giving to the poor. We give because we are already blessed by faith, not by the works of giving or buying His favor. That may work for some for a while but the far better way is to get the horse back ahead of the cart. Grace is the operative word here. Unmerited favor. You cannot earn His blessing. It's already been paid for. Faith unlocks the doors. Obedience to His still small voice is how it should work for those who have matured.

My wife went through cancer. No insurance. God led our steps and every dime of the 80,000.00 bill was taken care of. Not tithing involved.
When I jettisoned the tithing,the financial blessings started flowing........by grace....by faith....by listening to Him...not the pulpit.

Like a mam building up. When I finally got out from underneath the law....works that is....it untied Gods hands. All I can speak to is those things I have seen and heard and experienced.

The give and it shall be given is speaking about mercy.

I learn similar experience. Jesus don't let your left hand know what your right hand doing.

So In tithing not necessary go to our church, send it to another mission organization out of state where this people doesn't know us.

I am practicing for more than 20 years, not make me rich, but I feel the blessing. It was when I sleep in the old lady garage for exchange with light house keeping for a 30 minute a day and the rest of the day I work as a courier.

Than I start to have saving to rent apartment, than I start to do my own business than bough some property, than bough an old house and it was cash, no mortgage.

And I learn not to owe, from some preacher. I tray to do it by faith. This month my daughter said if she can make a loan for her school. I said, I will pay for it but you have to pray with me. I don't have the money yet. She said the dead line is on august 18 and it was august 3 when she inform me.

I am waiting for my income tax return, It said will be after august 7.

I am waiting til august 8 and not show up, then I went to IRS office to ask what going on.

The officer said she will release the fund but will not show up till 30 to 45 days.

I said to my daughter let not get a loan till the last day and keep praying.

I check my checking account every day to see if the miracle show up.

On the night of august 14 the money come and I tell my daughter to pay the school fee and parking fee.

I believe the Lord will help us when we try the best not to owe.
 
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SOE, taking a card and reading it over 50 people on the street and praying a single sinners prayer over them, is not getting them saved. If Rodney Howard Browne was getting that many saved, and properly making disciples, he would need a larger church than they have.

We visited a church that did his program. Had his cards, spiel everything and and I went out on a few of their "witness" crusades and it was a joke.

The pastors son was in charge and during sunday night service he would boast about having gotten 150 saved that afternoon, but not one of them showed up to church.

Heed the warning already given and run from this outfit now.
Brother first of all RHB Heart cries out for souls. this man is after souls. Who are you to judge the working of the Holy Spirit!!! The Holy Spirit is the greatest follow up. He will bring them up and lead them where to go. If you know anything about His ministry you know when they go out there of course some just blab the prayer and walk on. But you should know that they give follow up material and check up on them.
But either way i am going to continue doing the work of the Lord whether you believe it or not i really do not care God Bless you Bye Bye!!
 
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Brother first of all RHB Heart cries out for souls. this man is after souls. Who are you to judge the working of the Holy Spirit!!! The Holy Spirit is the greatest follow up. He will bring them up and lead them where to go. If you know anything about His ministry you know when they go out there of course some just blab the prayer and walk on. But you should know that they give follow up material and check up on them.
But either way i am going to continue doing the work of the Lord whether you believe it or not i really do not care God Bless you Bye Bye!!
Son, they don't check up on them, I have been up close and personal with RHB, when he visited the church we used to attend, when he came and visited it for a week. He was there for a week and we had training on the little scripts, that starts out with phrase, Did you know God loves you and has a plan for your life and we were told by his senior staff that we should never engage one on one, but at least 4 and ideally 12 and always even numbered groups because it is easier to keep count. The focus was always on the count and numbers. We were also trained not to minister, just group them and pray over them and let them go on their way and not give them any church info. But take plenty of pics of them and forward all your numbers daily back to the river.

I believe in the power of God, but nobody pushes me down and all he did was try to push me down....his altar workers also tried to push me down....out of 400 in that service only a few of us were still standing...my fomrer pastor called me in his office and scolded me for not honoring RHB....I honor God sir, not some bozo false teacher that walks by a row of people and they fall out, just because he walked by them all, or was acting like Dracula and would stare at people and they would fall down or pointing at a group and they would fall down. The most telling thing was the fact that RHB, would not even eat or visit with our pastor or the church people. We would have fellowship each night after service and RHB and Adonica and their entire entourage, Including Nick, Koustas would leave the church each night and drive back to Tulsa and stay at an unknown hotel and never want to meet and greet the local church body. That church was located in a small town about 35 miles west of Tulsa and there were no hotels in the small town and I understand that.

Our week with The Revival/River leaders ended with a local crusade with one of RHB's right hand men, that was from our area. They gave away big screen TV's and other prizes like IPODs, etc and had a drawing for cash prizes...to get people to come, I call that Bait and you really do not need bait if GOD is in your ministry. We know one of the women that won the cash prize of $2500 very well, it took her 6 months and small claims court to receive her money, and it was the same for the 3 other cash prize winners. The tehcnology items too forever to activate and the Scholarship winners to go to RBI could never get the scholarships funded, because we don't have the resources.

A team from our church, including the pastor, his wife, youth pastor and associate pastor and elders ignored all this tripe and went to a camp meeting just 2 weeks later and came home battered, beaten, busted and disgusted. The mighty RHB and his staff would not even acknowledge they knew our people, let alone talk to them. it was a 5 day camp meeting and the team left after the 3rd day. Not even a good bye or anything. Some others that went came back with reports of people grunting, barking like dogs, making sexual gestures during praise and worship. People claiming they could see gold dust from heaven and all the other things that give FULL GOSPEL a bad name, false prophets giving "words" that never lined up with the Bible.

One lady that went is a very powerful prayer intercessor, and has been saved for over 40 years.Sshe paid her own way home and left after the first service was over, because Pastor Eric and Jennifer Gonyon "prophesied" over her that it was time to get saved and live for Jesus and that she could be free from her life of drugs , sex and homosexual desires. My God man, the woman has been married for 50 years, has 12 kids and grand and great grand kids and been in ministry longer than Eric and Jennifer have been living. When she rebuked them and their "prophecy, she was escorted out. She left the church with us that same week.

This happened during RBH, false great awakening campaign, to his credit he did pay for his own air time during that so called great awakening...

you state your 20, you better wake up SOE and run from this outfit, and be careful who you talk to and take into consideration they might have some experience you don't know about.

RHB and his entire ministry need prayer.