Did you know the early church never gathered on Sunday?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

LEPIDUS

Senior Member
May 15, 2012
457
10
18
The apostles never gathered on the first day. That's another delusion just like Sunday is the Lord's day and secret rapture.
I was not opposing your belief. I was making an example, that it is not wrong to gather any day during the week. But to keep in mind Gods day is The Sabbath not Sunday.
 
K

Kerry

Guest
Acts 20

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,246
6,538
113
When Jesus Christ commanded (not a suggestion) that when we break bread and drink wine, we do it in remembrance of Him. He never suggested it be done on any specific day of the week. So when we do the same we do it in remembrance of Him, any time we come together to do this.

God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.

Luk 22:19

And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Luk 22:20
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
Acts 20

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
You have to do your research if you want to come out of Babylon. During the week of Jesus' crucifixion there were two Sabbaths with a normal work day in the middle. Mary bought the spices after the Sabbath ended, prepared them, and then rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment. The first Sabbath was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. They had to count seven Sabbaths starting from the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. They gathered on the first Sabbath, not the first day of the week. The words, "day of the week" are not there. What is there is the word, Sabbath. Read Lev. 23 because it maps out the week of Passover, which is the day Jesus died. Go to my website if you want it spoon fed to you. Unlocking Bible Prophecy
 

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Scuba again.
 
Aug 19, 2014
117
3
0
You have to do your research if you want to come out of Babylon. During the week of Jesus' crucifixion there were two Sabbaths with a normal work day in the middle. Mary bought the spices after the Sabbath ended, prepared them, and then rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment. The first Sabbath was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. They had to count seven Sabbaths starting from the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. They gathered on the first Sabbath, not the first day of the week. The words, "day of the week" are not there. What is there is the word, Sabbath. Read Lev. 23 because it maps out the week of Passover, which is the day Jesus died. Go to my website if you want it spoon fed to you. Unlocking Bible Prophecy
Hi Scuba, I believe the Sabbath you count from for the Feast of Weeks is the weekly sabbath. Let us use Christ as an example. Crucified on Pesache but was risen on First Fruits which was the day after the weekly sabbath also known as Sunday. Christ is the First of Fruits and we know that Christ rose on the first day of the week.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
Hi Scuba, I believe the Sabbath you count from for the Feast of Weeks is the weekly sabbath. Let us use Christ as an example. Crucified on Pesache but was risen on First Fruits which was the day after the weekly sabbath also known as Sunday. Christ is the First of Fruits and we know that Christ rose on the first day of the week.
Jesus died on Passover, which is the 14th day. The very next day (the 15th) is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was a Sabbath. Count seven Sabbaths from that day and then add one day, which equals 50 days, (according to Lev.) and that brings you to Pentecost. Jesus had to spend three days and three nights in the grave. Passover (wed), Feast of Unleavened Bread (Thurs), Friday normal work day, Saturday the seventh day Sabbath. They went to the tomb early Sabbath morning on the first Sabbath and Jesus was already gone.

John 20:1 Early in the morning of the first Sabbath, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.

Early in the morning of the first Sabbath. Why the first Sabbath? Because they were counting the Sabbaths that followed the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
 

Timeline

Senior Member
Mar 20, 2014
1,826
17
38
Acts 2:46
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 5:42
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

Acts 6:1
And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

Acts 16:5
And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Acts 17:17
Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.

Acts 19:9
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

Hebrews 3:13
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 10:11
And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
 
Aug 19, 2014
117
3
0
Jesus died on Passover, which is the 14th day. The very next day (the 15th) is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which was a Sabbath. Count seven Sabbaths from that day and then add one day, which equals 50 days, (according to Lev.) and that brings you to Pentecost. Jesus had to spend three days and three nights in the grave. Passover (wed), Feast of Unleavened Bread (Thurs), Friday normal work day, Saturday the seventh day Sabbath. They went to the tomb early Sabbath morning on the first Sabbath and Jesus was already gone.

John 20:1 Early in the morning of the first Sabbath, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb.

Early in the morning of the first Sabbath. Why the first Sabbath? Because they were counting the Sabbaths that followed the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

If first fruits is on the 1 day of the feast of unleavened bread then how could Christ have been the first fruits if he had not risen on the day of first fruits?


1 Corinthians 15:20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep

NIV and KJV Do not have it the first of the sabbath but the first of the week.

NIV John 20:1 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb

KJV John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark


If it would have been on the first day of unleaven bread then Christ would not have been in the ground for 3 days and 3 nights. He would have only been in the ground only one day.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth


In Leviticus 23:7 the first day of Unleaven Bread is not a called it a sabbath. It is a holy conovocation or qodesh midra (Strongs 6944 and 4744).

In Leviticus 23:11 First Fruits and Leviticus 23:15, First Fruits or wave offering, is defined as on the morrow after the sabbath. (Strongs 7676) They are not the same word.


The holy day after Unleaven bread is a Holy Conovocation (6944, 4744) and not the weekly sabbath (7676). First Fruits is defined as the morrow after the weekly sabbath (7676).


 
Last edited:
C

chubbena

Guest
I do not know of a Christian that is against Sabbath keepers or anyone, could you let the readers know who you are talking about and maybe explain how a person can not be wrong. Saying Jesus cannot be wrong is fine but a person no way so you have my interest because this is a Christian chat and Christians do their best to not lie.
Mac.
It's my bad being confusing on my post which should read "the most against Sabbath keepers and for man made holy days..."
Not sure if you are saying those speaking against Sabbath keepers are not Christians or if you have not met a Christian who speaks against Sabbath keepers. If you mean the latter then welcome to CC because we have plenty here who spice up and make this forum lively and interesting.
My "they cannot be wrong" remark was for the religious leaders not unlike those at the time when the Word of God came in the flesh and spoke in first person correcting the misunderstanding and misapplication of the law.
This "cannot be wrong" attitude led to the persecution of the prophets, the Christ and His followers. Not sure if I've made it clear.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
Acts 2:46
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Acts 5:42
And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ.

Acts 6:1
And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.

Acts 16:5
And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Acts 17:17
Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.

Acts 19:9
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

Hebrews 3:13
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 10:11
And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Amen! Gathering together is such a joy but we must not forget the seventh day blessing in the process.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Acts 18:4 Every Sabbath day he talked with the Jews and Gentiles in the synagogue, trying to persuade them to believe in Jesus.

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

Remember, Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. The word (THE) speaks of a literal day called the Sabbath. Also remember, the Sabbath will be honored in the millennium too.
 
Last edited:
C

chubbena

Guest
Acts 20

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
My understanding on this verse is that the breaking of bread took place in the evening because in the original language it's the first of the week rather than the first day of the week and Paul probably didn't preach from early morning till after midnight but if indeed he did, it would be nice to see the same done at our local church today. After all, what is better than a little retreat into His Word all day one in seven?
 

jb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2010
4,940
589
113
Did you know the early church never gathered on Sunday?
Really?

Acts 2v46 [AMP] states: "And day after day they regularly assembled in the temple with united purpose, and in their homes they broke bread [including the Lord's Supper]. They partook of their food with gladness and simplicity and generous hearts..."

So, they not only met every day of the week, but also saturday AND sunday as well!

Yahweh Shalom
 

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
Hi Scuba, I believe the Sabbath you count from for the Feast of Weeks is the weekly sabbath. Let us use Christ as an example. Crucified on Pesache but was risen on First Fruits which was the day after the weekly sabbath also known as Sunday. Christ is the First of Fruits and we know that Christ rose on the first day of the week.

First of all, He did not rise on Sunday morning...

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

He was already gone!

Secondly, perhaps you can count three days and three nights for us from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning?

Thirdly, the Passover was on Wednesday, April 25 (Julian dating), 31AD.

The ONLY sign Christ gave that He was the Messiah (by His own words) is that He would be in the tomb three days and three nights...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

He was buried just before/at sunset on Wednesday and arose three days and three nights later before/at sunset on the weekly Sabbath afternoon.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
Really?

Acts 2v46 [AMP] states: "And day after day they regularly assembled in the temple with united purpose, and in their homes they broke bread [including the Lord's Supper]. They partook of their food with gladness and simplicity and generous hearts..."

So, they not only met every day of the week, but also saturday AND sunday as well!

Yahweh Shalom
You know what I meant. Those first day verses are not saying what people are making them say.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
First of all, He did not rise on Sunday morning...

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

He was already gone!

Secondly, perhaps you can count three days and three nights for us from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning?

Thirdly, the Passover was on Wednesday, April 25 (Julian dating), 31AD.

The ONLY sign Christ gave that He was the Messiah (by His own words) is that He would be in the tomb three days and three nights...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

He was buried just before/at sunset on Wednesday and arose three days and three nights later before/at sunset on the weekly Sabbath afternoon.
Nice post! :cool: It's very simple to come out of Babylon when you use the map that God gave us.
 

john832

Senior Member
May 31, 2013
11,365
186
63
Really?

Acts 2v46 [AMP] states: "And day after day they regularly assembled in the temple with united purpose, and in their homes they broke bread [including the Lord's Supper]. They partook of their food with gladness and simplicity and generous hearts..."

So, they not only met every day of the week, but also saturday AND sunday as well!

Yahweh Shalom
Great, but this was a one off event. Do you go to church daily? When do you work? Who supports your church fincancially if no one works. By the way, if everyone goes to church and no one works, what do you eat?

2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

Perhaps you should try practicing what you preach and then you can become a ward of the state.
 
Aug 19, 2014
117
3
0
First of all, He did not rise on Sunday morning...

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

He was already gone!
Sunday starts at Sundown. When it is dark and goes until then next evening. During Passover Night and Day are about even or 12 hours each being around the Spring Equinox. It is entirely possible Christ rose on Sunday(After Dark) and then later that night Mary went to the Tomb(After Dark) being a 12 hour span. There is more then enough time for this to happen. Since Scripture says Christ is the First Fruits and He fulfilled the Spring Feasts I would think he rose on First Fruits which is defined as the morrow after the Sabbath.

Secondly, perhaps you can count three days and three nights for us from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning?

I never said he died on Friday. That is what the Catholics and other Organizations teach.


Thirdly, the Passover was on Wednesday, April 25 (Julian dating), 31AD.

The ONLY sign Christ gave that He was the Messiah (by His own words) is that He would be in the tomb three days and three nights...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

He was buried just before/at sunset on Wednesday and arose three days and three nights later before/at sunset on the weekly Sabbath afternoon.

There is a a lot of debate when Christ was crucified. 31 AD may be correct but others may disagree. He definatley was not crucified on Friday since that would not give enough time to be in the ground 3 days and 3 nights. I think this is a good topic for a new thread on when he was crucified.
 
Jun 26, 2014
1,011
17
0
You have to have enough time after Passover for two Sabbaths with a normal work day in the middle. Remember, Mary bought the spices after the Sabbath ended, prepared them, and the rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment. The Bible also says that Mary went to the tomb while it was still dark. The words, "while it was still dark" indicates it was dark prior to her going, not that it was getting dark.
 

jb

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2010
4,940
589
113
Great, but this was a one off event...
No it wasn't, it was the pattern which the early church laid down which was followed for a long time by Christians!

Judging from your other comments, you knowledge on the practices of the early church is lacking, you can find an indepth study Here that should be informative to you...

Yahweh Shalom