The early church didn't gather on the first day of the week...
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Would you agree that the churches in ACTS were ignorant of a few things.....like numerous church letters written by Paul....or maybe they had not yet been brought online with meeting every day as the Jerusalem Church when scattered went every where preaching the word......AND DURING A TRANSITIONAL PERIOD IN HISTORY had to LEARN SOME NEW THINGS that were coming on line during that period????????
And IF a CHURCH IS MEETING EVERY DAY...THEY ARE MEETING ON THE DAY OF REST....yea or nay?
And IF a CHURCH IS MEETING EVERY DAY...THEY ARE MEETING ON THE DAY OF REST....yea or nay?
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So much debate about the Sabbath and when the early church met. We hear the same argument over and over. So ill add my two cents.
We should give every day to the Lord. Every day should be our Sabbath. If you want to just give one day a week to God that's up to you.
As for me I'll make every day a Sabbath unto the lord!
We should give every day to the Lord. Every day should be our Sabbath. If you want to just give one day a week to God that's up to you.
As for me I'll make every day a Sabbath unto the lord!
In your OP you posted the following (blue):
Mark 16:2 Very early in the morning, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.
The words, "on the first day of the week" are not accurate. The words, "day of the week" should not be there. What should be there is Sabbath. The verses should read like this, "On the first Sabbath" not "On the first day of the week".
Mark 16:1- "And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
2- And very early in the morning the first day of the week,(sabbaton) they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun."
Verse one says "Sabbath was past". So if in verse two "first day of week" is translated "Sabbath day" then that would be two Sabbath days in a row which is not possible. A Sabbath day in verse 2 cannot follow the Sabbath day of verse 1.
We are to establish God's name where wants it established and by His ways, not man's. Jesus had a big problem with people making void God's commandments with traditions and commandments of men. You will obey the Law of God now and in the millennial kingdom. God is preparing a people to be His kings and priest. The Law is the foundation that teaches the ways of God and separates a people He can call His own. Sunday worship, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Good Friday, Lent all have their root in Babylon and not in God, period. God is calling His people to come out of Babylon or drink of His wrath. Do you think He says that for nothing?
Disciples can meet any day they choose to teach and study the bible, such as a Wednesday night, but it was only on the first day of the week/Sunday being the only time God brought His disciples together to take the Lord's Supper/break bread, Acts 20:7. Did God bring the disciples together on Monday, Tues, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat to take the Lord's Supper? No.
You can't buy on the Sabbath so when the Sabbath had passed it made it Friday a normal work day. She bought the spices on Friday, prepared them all day and now the seventh day Sabbath is upon them so they rested on the seventh day Sabbath according to the commandment. Early in the morning on the first Sabbath they came to the tomb.
The truth huh? Let me tell you a little something about(TheTruth) Why do you think that so many religeous ppl are willing to die to protect and enforce the truth? Because to almost every person what they fully believe in and how they see things is what you call the truth. Muslums are so dedicated to killing us because they know (The truth) Satanists are so dedicated to their God because they know (The truth) Atheists are so dedicated to their believes because they woke and saw(The truth) What you see and believe about the sabbath is (The truth) And thus you believe no matter what we say or do that you are right. What your truth is and what my truth is may be very different. The truth hardly exists anymore and few even find it.
I saw the folly in me, I saw that to me the truth is simply what I believe and see and so I was right no matter what. So I became open to rebuke I became open to admit I may have been wrong and I was and am willing to have God show me and teach me what the truth really is. This took so much humbling and work in me as pride is almost always why no one ever finds or knows the truth.
And so many make the claim God told me or taught me or influenced me so thats why I know the truth, of course its a poor excuse as thats the very same claim many other religions make too.
Ho0nestly with this kind of thinking it could very easily make me doubt my own faith and could make me think if all this is true then what really is the truth and does anyone even know it? Its a burden I have to carry, I am the type of person to look deep into things, I mean really deep and thats why It can become very confusing.
I dont claim to know the full truth, in fact I doubt anyone knows the full truth. They may know some of the truth but we are going to be wrong about something. If I viewed this subject through your eyes I would probably think its the truth too. But I told God that I wanted to see out of his eyes not mine or what I think or want to believe even if it means the truth is not what I wanted to see and know.
There is a very good reason we must not lean on our own understanding and with the way I think and see I fully agree
I saw the folly in me, I saw that to me the truth is simply what I believe and see and so I was right no matter what. So I became open to rebuke I became open to admit I may have been wrong and I was and am willing to have God show me and teach me what the truth really is. This took so much humbling and work in me as pride is almost always why no one ever finds or knows the truth.
And so many make the claim God told me or taught me or influenced me so thats why I know the truth, of course its a poor excuse as thats the very same claim many other religions make too.
Ho0nestly with this kind of thinking it could very easily make me doubt my own faith and could make me think if all this is true then what really is the truth and does anyone even know it? Its a burden I have to carry, I am the type of person to look deep into things, I mean really deep and thats why It can become very confusing.
I dont claim to know the full truth, in fact I doubt anyone knows the full truth. They may know some of the truth but we are going to be wrong about something. If I viewed this subject through your eyes I would probably think its the truth too. But I told God that I wanted to see out of his eyes not mine or what I think or want to believe even if it means the truth is not what I wanted to see and know.
There is a very good reason we must not lean on our own understanding and with the way I think and see I fully agree
i'm sorry, i thought we did. here's the OP:
the answer is that the church met EVERY DAY. not "they met on sabbath days" or "they met on the day after sabbath" --- they met EVERY DAY.
so yeah, i totally agree with you that the days for congregational fellowship have been distorted and misunderstood over time. because some say Sunday is the day we should worship, and some say is the day we should worship, but the scripture says every day is the day we should worship.
One thing I ask from the LORD, this only do I seek:
that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life,
to gaze on the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple.
(Psalm 27:4)
^ notice that David's prayer is to be in the house of God every day, not every sabbath day.
saying that Saturday is appointed by God for us to meet congregationally is just as much of a distortion as saying that Sunday is. the Sabbath day is a day of rest -- if i tell you that you need to leave your house and go to another place every sabbath day, i'm telling you to break the letter of the law:
Understand that the LORD has given you the Sabbath;
therefore on the sixth day He will give you two days' worth of bread.
Each of you stay where you are; no one is to leave his place on the seventh day.
(Exodus 16:29)
if we want out worship to emulate the Jews under the law, we ought to be asking when and how often they worshiped at the temple, not which day of the week is the sabbath.
but we shouldn't be doing this. we should be worshiping in spirit & truth, not in shadows of what has now been revealed.
the answer is that the church met EVERY DAY. not "they met on sabbath days" or "they met on the day after sabbath" --- they met EVERY DAY.
so yeah, i totally agree with you that the days for congregational fellowship have been distorted and misunderstood over time. because some say Sunday is the day we should worship, and some say is the day we should worship, but the scripture says every day is the day we should worship.
One thing I ask from the LORD, this only do I seek:
that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life,
to gaze on the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple.
(Psalm 27:4)
^ notice that David's prayer is to be in the house of God every day, not every sabbath day.
saying that Saturday is appointed by God for us to meet congregationally is just as much of a distortion as saying that Sunday is. the Sabbath day is a day of rest -- if i tell you that you need to leave your house and go to another place every sabbath day, i'm telling you to break the letter of the law:
Understand that the LORD has given you the Sabbath;
therefore on the sixth day He will give you two days' worth of bread.
Each of you stay where you are; no one is to leave his place on the seventh day.
(Exodus 16:29)
if we want out worship to emulate the Jews under the law, we ought to be asking when and how often they worshiped at the temple, not which day of the week is the sabbath.
but we shouldn't be doing this. we should be worshiping in spirit & truth, not in shadows of what has now been revealed.
are you kidding me??
the apostles lived with Jesus and followed Him everywhere He went, except when He went away by Himself to pray, 24/7 for 3 years!
they didn't go back to Galilee for 6 days out of the week! they walked with Him whenever He walked, ate with Him when He ate, and slept when He slept, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
1Th 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
2Th 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Seems telling to me that Paul practiced what he preached...
Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome
and came unto them. Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
He worked as a tentmaker and preached on the Sabbath.
This is a very poor counter response. This isnt about who resists what I think or see I could care less if you believe or think what I do, I merely explained to you what you call (The truth) really is. really ponder and think about what I said dont just instantly counter respond and try to defend your belief
So because they were killed that means that the sabbath they kept was the truth? Again a poor counter response. If that is your argument then I could easily tell you how many Christians who dont keep the sabbath or teach it are killed everyday. I am attacked everyday but not because I know the truth about a certain doctrine but because God and I share a very loving and intimate relationship. These people may have kept the sabbath but it was their faith in God that got them killed and so your argument is not very valid.