The early church didn't gather on the first day of the week...
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Some say its on saturday others sunday honestly I dont put to much attention to that. I cant tell you what the Christian sabbath is as it is different to many, the sabbath to me is a day where we observe the Lord and what he did and keep in in our hearts. to others its something else, honestly because of the new covanent with Jesus and and his resurection I dont believe we require to keep the sabbath but keeping and not keeping it is between the believer and God like fasting. But to go out and say that keeping it is the truth and trying to get others to keep it as well is wrong.
I have nothing against ppl who keep the sabbath but I will stand up if someone comes and says that its the truth and that we should keep it as that is not truth its basically saying believe what I say because I know the truth you dont.
Keeping the sabbath is between the believer and God
I have nothing against ppl who keep the sabbath but I will stand up if someone comes and says that its the truth and that we should keep it as that is not truth its basically saying believe what I say because I know the truth you dont.
Keeping the sabbath is between the believer and God
I thought you said it was because of the devil? My point is proven when I say ppl are willing to kill and die for what they believe is the truth. Honestly arguing about keeping the sabbath is getting to be childish, you didnt even comment on my entire post just a part of it. You prove nothing you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Satan very well could have influenced the sunday keepers to kill these people but its wasnt because satan has a grudge about sabbath killing. When it comes down to it it was about him wanting Christians dead watching so called believer do his work for him.
Satan very well could have influenced the sunday keepers to kill these people but its wasnt because satan has a grudge about sabbath killing. When it comes down to it it was about him wanting Christians dead watching so called believer do his work for him.
Anyways I can see this isnt going to go anywhere so I will take my leave I have better things to do than to debate and argue over the sabbath.
The devil brings us into such silly debates to cause strife and division amongst believers and both sides fell for the trap.
So i am leaving before I give him another reason to be rolling on the floor laughing
The devil brings us into such silly debates to cause strife and division amongst believers and both sides fell for the trap.
So i am leaving before I give him another reason to be rolling on the floor laughing
they were at the temple every day. the day that the Jews showed up, they preached to them, just like they did every other day. when the apostles went out into Europe evangelizing, they went to the Jews first, who happened to be conveniently meeting every sabbath in their synagogues.
say you want to advertise to football fans -- are you going to show up at the stadium on game day, or some other day?
Sorry I didnt realize the point of this was to refute the op i thought it was a discussion forum. Im not on here to prove and disprove things I am here to be with my brothers and sisters in Christ and hopefully be able to help and encourage them.
Do you know how happy it makes me to uplift a broken spirit? To show and be love? To know that I am on here to serve God? I dont get these chances everyday but when i get it im on it, I could care less about proving and disproving beliefs and doctrine.
Do you know how happy it makes me to uplift a broken spirit? To show and be love? To know that I am on here to serve God? I dont get these chances everyday but when i get it im on it, I could care less about proving and disproving beliefs and doctrine.
No law against being in the temple every day and you never heard any teachings about what could be do on those days. But listen to this.
Acts 23:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, j the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Why not just tell them to come back the next day, which would have been Sunday? Why wait a whole week? This would have been the perfect time to announce the change but he didn't. As a matter of fact, the Gentiles went out all week inviting people to church next Sabbath because next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered on the Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Acts 23:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, j the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.
Why not just tell them to come back the next day, which would have been Sunday? Why wait a whole week? This would have been the perfect time to announce the change but he didn't. As a matter of fact, the Gentiles went out all week inviting people to church next Sabbath because next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered on the Sabbath.
Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
You are really not giving everyday to God. It seems to me that time is an idol today. Time is the god of the modern fast pace world we live in. God says keep the seventh day holy by not working but we say I'll give Him everyday but do we crease working everyday? Do we give our working animals everyday off to rest? We have a very sneaky way of making time or idol.
The arguments in Jesus' regarding the Sabbath was never about which day it was, but rather, what could be done on the Sabbath. We are not to do anyway with the Sabbath nor change it to another day. What we are to do is not judge anyone in what they do on the Sabbath day. This is my biggest problem when trying to find Sabbath fellowship. People don't get the teachings of Jesus.
Look I know what God wants me to do he has a way of telling me what I should and shouldnt do and when to do and not do something. If he wanted me to keep debating about this trust me he would let me know, but I know his voice and the voice says to stop debating. I hope you find what you seek in this thread, just remember that Satan and God both have a play in this thread and in every thread and post we make
All I can see here is people making excuses of why they gather on Sunday, by the scripture they present. All they are doing is justifying why they gather on Sunday.
I am 27 yrs old, I was raised going to church on Sunday since I was about 5 yrs old. I was very knowledgeable about the scripture or so I thought. Everything that I heard I believed because it was instilled on me to be truth. When I read The Bible I understood it as how it was explained to me by my pastors, mother, throughout the years.
About four of five months ago, I started questioning everything that I understood to be truth, because things that I read in The Bible contradicted things that was instilled in me, for example, rapture pretribe, I've always believed The Ten Commandments applied to the church today but then there was that one commandment that didn't apply "Remember The Sabbath" and I never really questioned it. I would go to church on Sunday because my mother took me that day, because that is what I believed to be truth.
But since things were conflicting within me I was still seeking. Someone mentioned The Sabbath to me, presented scripture and it all started making sense. How can one ignore scripture and reject it. I was willing to put tradition aside for the truth.
I can understand many will feel dumb, believing that what they thought as the truth was actually deception, so I can see how many will not willingly admit they are wrong after so many years of tradition.
All I am saying is not to reject something that might bear truth, you don't want God to reject you.
I am 27 yrs old, I was raised going to church on Sunday since I was about 5 yrs old. I was very knowledgeable about the scripture or so I thought. Everything that I heard I believed because it was instilled on me to be truth. When I read The Bible I understood it as how it was explained to me by my pastors, mother, throughout the years.
About four of five months ago, I started questioning everything that I understood to be truth, because things that I read in The Bible contradicted things that was instilled in me, for example, rapture pretribe, I've always believed The Ten Commandments applied to the church today but then there was that one commandment that didn't apply "Remember The Sabbath" and I never really questioned it. I would go to church on Sunday because my mother took me that day, because that is what I believed to be truth.
But since things were conflicting within me I was still seeking. Someone mentioned The Sabbath to me, presented scripture and it all started making sense. How can one ignore scripture and reject it. I was willing to put tradition aside for the truth.
I can understand many will feel dumb, believing that what they thought as the truth was actually deception, so I can see how many will not willingly admit they are wrong after so many years of tradition.
All I am saying is not to reject something that might bear truth, you don't want God to reject you.
I wonder what God wants all of us to do about threads like this? I have noticed that the arguments start when someone decides a scripture verse must be read legalistically, pulling each word apart without any attempt at either heeding the Lord speaking in spirit and truth, or without trying to make the verse fit with all of what the Lord is and tells us.
It is important for each of us to be sure what the Lord wants us to do about the day of the week He set apart for us to be handled in a special way. We should be able to each give our understanding of that so each of us could, as a group, come to a better understanding for ourselves of it. I don't think we all would have to agree. If everyone decided it could only be on Saturday and we couldn't work that day, what would happen to sick people in hospitals? We really need to gather together under scripture and discuss all this.
I have done what many of you would think is not the place to go: I have gone to how the Jews did this back in the days they tried to follow the Lord. Once people found out they could rely on Christ for salvation, few other people really tried to follow what Christ guided them to do.
It is important for each of us to be sure what the Lord wants us to do about the day of the week He set apart for us to be handled in a special way. We should be able to each give our understanding of that so each of us could, as a group, come to a better understanding for ourselves of it. I don't think we all would have to agree. If everyone decided it could only be on Saturday and we couldn't work that day, what would happen to sick people in hospitals? We really need to gather together under scripture and discuss all this.
I have done what many of you would think is not the place to go: I have gone to how the Jews did this back in the days they tried to follow the Lord. Once people found out they could rely on Christ for salvation, few other people really tried to follow what Christ guided them to do.