Christians are not obligated to be physically circumcised?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
RedTent

RedTent

Banned
#21
Oct 31, 2011
8,200
182
0
#21
1still_waters said:
Just to clarify, there is a difference between valid and obligated/commanded/directed.

Are you saying Christians are obligated/commanded/directed to be physically circumcised?
AsI stated earlier..


So let's make sure the score is really 5-1 and not 6-0.
Click to expand...
You are asking that we fit scripture into computer like answers and it can't be done. Scripture speaks in spirit and truth, and how that relates to the physical world. It will not translate into purely yes/no, on/off sort of computer thought.
 
1

1still_waters

Guest
#22
#22
RedTent said:
You are asking that we fit scripture into computer like answers and it can't be done. Scripture speaks in spirit and truth, and how that relates to the physical world. It will not translate into purely yes/no, on/off sort of computer thought.
Click to expand...
So if someone you were discipling came to you and asked...

Am I obligated to by physically circumcised?

What would you answer with?

Would you have an answer?
 
KohenMatt

KohenMatt

Senior Member
#23
Jun 28, 2013
4,022
223
63
#23
1still_waters said:
Just to clarify, there is a difference between valid and obligated/commanded/directed.

Are you saying Christians are obligated/commanded/directed to be physically circumcised?
AsI stated earlier..


So let's make sure the score is really 5-1 and not 6-0.
Click to expand...
Does God tells us to circumcise? Yes.

Are we obligated to do it for some sort of purpose other than pleasing God and as a sign to us? No.
 
KohenMatt

KohenMatt

Senior Member
#24
Jun 28, 2013
4,022
223
63
#24
JesusChica1991 said:
Actually most studies in the last five years show no correlation between circumcision and health benefits. The only reason why it was done was to keep said area clean from infection because people didn't have the knowledge to clean themselves like they do now but since most people these days know how to bathe properly, it isn't so required for health reasons.
Click to expand...
That is definitely a trendy belief nowadays. Not entirely accurate, but trendy.
 
prove-all

prove-all

Senior Member
#25
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#25
the question should be why not get youre sons

physically circumcised when young.

is this not a good health issue ?
 
KohenMatt

KohenMatt

Senior Member
#26
Jun 28, 2013
4,022
223
63
#26
prove-all said:
the question should be why not get youre sons

physically circumcised when young.

is this not a good health issue ?
Click to expand...
It depends on who you ask. Recently, there's been a strong movement saying there aren't health benefits of circumcision over not doing it. It's by no means a consensus, and still behind the support for doing it.
 
crossnote

crossnote

Senior Member
#27
Nov 24, 2012
30,708
3,650
113
#27
prove-all said:
the question should be why not get youre sons

physically circumcised when young.

is this not a good health issue ?
Click to expand...
KohenMatt said:
It depends on who you ask. Recently, there's been a strong movement saying there aren't health benefits of circumcision over not doing it. It's by no means a consensus, and still behind the support for doing it.
Click to expand...
Ehhh, whatz up doc?

rabbit.jpg
 
prove-all

prove-all

Senior Member
#28
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
#28
KohenMatt said:
It depends on who you ask. Recently, there's been a strong movement saying there aren't health benefits of circumcision over not doing it. It's by no means a consensus, and still behind the support for doing it.
Click to expand...

well i have seen my dad have all kinds of problems from not being circumcised.

and i am glad myself was, and i had my son circumcised also.
 
breno785au

breno785au

Senior Member
#29
Jul 23, 2013
6,002
765
113
39
Australia
#29
No, Christians are not required to be physically circumcised. Maybe you should have made a poll if your keeping count.
 
Timeline

Timeline

Senior Member
#30
Mar 20, 2014
1,826
17
38
#30
Galatians 5:2
Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you.

Galatians 5:6
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

Romans 2:28
For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh.

8-1.5 ...I believe
 
Last edited:
K

Kerry

Guest
#31
#31
No one is ordered to be circumcised, but there are health benefits to being so. Shall I say it more easily cleaned that to not be.
 
J

JamesMcClay

Guest
#32
#32
If you wat to be circumcised, be circumcised. If you don't, then don't.

however, If you think you MUST be circumcised to be saved, you are LOST.
 
K

Kerry

Guest
#33
#33
JamesMcClay said:
If you wat to be circumcised, be circumcised. If you don't, then don't.

however, If you think you MUST be circumcised to be saved, you are LOST.
Click to expand...
you just peed on the cross.
 
K

Kerry

Guest
#34
#34
Your here James, have got done peeing?
 
K

Kerry

Guest
#35
#35
don't feel bad many here have done the same and continue to do it.
 
blue_ladybug

blue_ladybug

Senior Member
#37
Feb 21, 2014
70,869
9,601
113
#37
No peeing allowed on the cross, or in this thread!! Use da bathroom if you gotta pee..lol.. :)
 
T

twotwo

Guest
#38
#38
1still_waters said:
...Scripture does not obligate Christians to be physically circumcised.
Scripture does not command Christians to be physically circumcised.
Scripture does not direct Christians to be physically circumcised.

I guess this discussion can be answered easily.

Are Christians obligated, commanded, directed to be physically circumcised?
Click to expand...
Christianity is not a dictatorship but a love relationship.

Everything Christians do should be done out of love for our Lord.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

Banned
#39
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
#39
Well having been whacked when I was 8 days old in New Mexico I will answer the following.....

1. Circumcision was in the O.T. the OUTWARD sing of the INWARD covenant between God and Abraham/Abraham's SEED I.E. the lineage of faith......It did not save them, but rather (separated) them from those around them who were not participants in the covenant of faith.

2. Under the New Covenant baptism is now the outward sign of the inward covenant as applied unto believers and states to the world that you have died with Christ, been buried with Christ and resurrected in Christ as a new creation in Christ Jesus....

Does not Paul cover this in Galatians and other books as well in various form or fashion......So......seems to me that Baptism has overtaken circumcision as the OUTWARD sign of an inward act of faith.......

Anyway, fully expect the LAWyers to argue.........!
 
C

cfultz3

Guest
#40
#40
Perfect example of people really not reading what people say:

Kerry said:
No one is ordered to be circumcised, but there are health benefits to being so. Shall I say it more easily cleaned that to not be.
Click to expand...
JamesMcClay said:
If you wat to be circumcised, be circumcised. If you don't, then don't.

however, If you think you MUST be circumcised to be saved, you are LOST.
Click to expand...
Kerry said:
you just peed on the cross.
Click to expand...
Example of someone having read what someone said:

KohenMatt said:
Kerry, James agreed with you completely.

Read the post again.
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.