The Bible code

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Jason0047

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Jason0047 said:
Go back and see my previous post on the passage in Revelation 13. It actually tells you to count a number, which is the number of the beast. This lines up with another passage in the OT. I mention this other passage that connects with the one in Revelation in that post.
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It tells you that counting this number is a part of wisdom.
 
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In other words, the Bible is divinely inspired. It is perfect and without error.
 
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Jason0047 said:
In other words, the Bible is divinely inspired. It is perfect and without error.
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Not trying to be a smart butt, which version are you talking about?
 
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Jason0047 said:
In other words, the Bible is divinely inspired. It is perfect and without error.
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Remember it is the scriptures written by men who were inspired by God that are perfect.
The original Greek and Hebrew.

The multiple different English versions we have, all have either minor to major mistranslation errors in them.
The KJV by study using the original texts and the Dead Sea Scrolls has been still the closest to the original texts by about 95% the last time I checked. It has minor translation errors that doesn't change the salvation message.
( Few Examples: Red sea is actually Reed sea, and the multiple different meanings of love and how it was used )
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Remember it is the scriptures written by men who were inspired by God that are perfect.
The original Greek and Hebrew.

The multiple different English versions we have, all have either minor to major mistranslation errors in them.
The KJV by study using the original texts and the Dead Sea Scrolls has been still the closest to the original texts by about 95% the last time I checked. It has minor translation errors that doesn't change the salvation message.
( Few Examples: Red sea is actually Reed sea, and the multiple different meanings of love and how it was used )
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The worst part is how some people choose to use the Bible. Some people use it as a code book. Some people use it to control others. The interpretations of the scriptures is different from one house to the other. In the translation of the KJV many words were used that had more meanings than the original Greek and Hebrew. Example pornia in the Latin was excluded in KJV and the word fornication substituted.
This is why Paul says: 2 Timothy 2:15King James Version (KJV)[SUP]15 [/SUP]Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
We must realize the spirit of man is throughout the Bible. God knows this and has given us the Holy Spirit to help us. The Holy Spirit is not under the influence of man.
 
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watty said:
Not trying to be a smart butt, which version are you talking about?
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Check out this article here for the 4 chosen languages that God had used to preserve His Word thru out time.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Remember it is the scriptures written by men who were inspired by God that are perfect.
The original Greek and Hebrew.

The multiple different English versions we have, all have either minor to major mistranslation errors in them.
The KJV by study using the original texts and the Dead Sea Scrolls has been still the closest to the original texts by about 95% the last time I checked. It has minor translation errors that doesn't change the salvation message.
( Few Examples: Red sea is actually Reed sea, and the multiple different meanings of love and how it was used )
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Questions for KJVOists.
 
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I believe no mater how hard man tries to destroy the Word of God he shall not prevail. There is still enough of what God wanted us to know in every translation of the original Bible. The New King James Version is translated by 47 military chaplains. The original translation was by 47 scholars of that time. Man you can probably use the satanic handbook and find God, just do the opposite of was it says LOL
 
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So you don't believe God preserved His Word in the world language today?

Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my....
 
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Satan's new trick with the Word is to change the definition of the word. Gay originally meant to be joyful, happy, and celebrate. Today ask our children and all they know is the word gay means homosexuality. Same word different meaning.
 
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watty said:
Satan's new trick with the Word is to change the definition of the word. Gay originally meant to be joyful, happy, and celebrate. Today ask our children and all they know is the word gay means homosexuality. Same word different meaning.
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Yes, I mention this exact example a lot. I have run into a lot of people who think that certain words in the Old English are the same in the Modern English. For example: Some believe God actually directly creates evil because the famous passage that says so. But the word "evil" is actually in reference to calamity (As you probably know). This is easily understood based on the context (By comparing the opposite of what the other word says). But still... people will assert it means evil (as we understand that word today) because that is what it says (Not understanding that words change with the passage of time).
 
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Jason0047 said:
Go back and see my previous post on the passage in Revelation 13. It actually tells you to count a number, which is the number of the beast. This lines up with another passage in the OT. I mention this other passage that connects with the one in Revelation in that post.
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are you saying that there is a code you must follow ....the scripture says....
Acts 2:38-39King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call

......those are simple instructions.....you refuse to follow them but you want to follow some imaginary code....
 
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It is only imaginary to those who don't know about the people who actually use and live by this type of code. This code is used in supervision. Most people are brain washed by this code; they are taught that there is no God, just the code. Research some of the worlds secrete societies, and non secrete societies, police, firemen, gangs, masons, eastern stars, many religious organizations, border patrol and many more live by what they call the code and it is the Bible they use as the code book.
 
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Jason0047 said:
In other words, the Bible is divinely inspired. It is perfect and without error.
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Say, Jason, I can see places in the Bible where it says the word of God is pure... does it say it's perfect somewhere? I suppose a person could say it's perfect based on numerics, though...
 
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Jason0047 said:
Yes, I mention this exact example a lot. I have run into a lot of people who think that certain words in the Old English are the same in the Modern English. For example: Some believe God actually directly creates evil because the famous passage that says so. But the word "evil" is actually in reference to calamity (As you probably know). This is easily understood based on the context (By comparing the opposite of what the other word says). But still... people will assert it means evil (as we understand that word today) because that is what it says (Not understanding that words change with the passage of time).
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is there a handy reference work where we can see which words have changed over time, or is it, say, a matter of careful study of each passage?
 
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Right now you are learning how to identify the tricks of the beast on this website. Do share this type of information with your Christian brothers and sisters. You can identify much through knowledge.
 
Dan_473

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No, I am saying his life experiences were all very different from mine.


No, what happened with Peter Hitchens is that he never quite got over his fear of hell. As he got older and his mortality began to weigh upon him more this fear increased and eventually overcame him. The only way he could elevate it was by returning to the Anglican Church and seeking the salvation of Christ.

I understand his plight in that the same fear once consumed me and brought me back to God at age sixteen. You understand well, I am sure, that this fear of hell is taught at a very young age to children, and whether they learn it implicitly, or explicitly, the fear is real and it is very hard to shake. As the song lyric says, "I know there ain't no heaven, but I pray their ain't no hell." The American philosopher Susan Sontag once argued that no atheist could rest content until that last dragon was slain, and the dragon she meant was the fear of hell.

A few years back I chatted at length with a fellow atheist about this very issue. He had not gotten over this latent fear and wondered how I had been able to shake it. It was not faith, or knowledge, or life experience that brought Peter Hitchens back to God -- it was the emotion of fear that started him on that road. It was not logic. It was not rationality. His experience does not apply to me. His experience had nothing to do with Francis Collins finding God. Every atheist who returns to God does so for a different reason, as does every Christian who moves away from belief. All experiences are unique. It is a mistake to generalize.
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say, Cycel, would you agree that acceptance of anything beyond our own conscieousness requires belief?
 
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Dan_473 said:
say, Cycel, would you agree that acceptance of anything beyond our own conscieousness requires belief?
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If it is beyond your consciousness this means it is not proven and if you believe in things not proven requires faith.
 
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