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Flamingspirit

Flamingspirit

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Kerry said:
Wrong- Jesus said that if you look at man with malice in your heart you have already committed murder. Boy do we need the cross! amen
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You constantly state that "we need the cross" but do you know what that means? Yes to even look at a man with malice is murder. Now what do you think people are doing when they make threads like "Islam is Evil"? To hate your brother makes that one a murderer. THAT'S not love now is it?

We are to love one another as Christ loved us! That is all...
 
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Flamingspirit said:
You constantly state that "we need the cross" but do you know what that means? Yes to even look at a man with malice is murder. Now what do you think people are doing when they make threads like "Islam is Evil"? To hate your brother makes that one a murderer. THAT'S not love now is it?

We are to love one another as Christ loved us! That is all...
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You miss the point of brother, not everyone is your brother and some want to kill you and hate you and we are to love them in a individual since. But if Islam wants to take over the world and force you to serve their God then kill them.
 
Mem

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Kerry said:
Wrong to the n'th degree their is no other way save the cross.
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Wow that is not just wrong, it is wrong to the ninth power, whoa! So, is there no need for repentance of sin?
 
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Kerry

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Or we would not be talking in this language.
 
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Mem said:
Wow that is not just wrong, it is wrong to the ninth power, whoa! So, is there no need for repentance of sin?
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What? I meant what?
 
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Kerry

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Mem said:
Wow that is not just wrong, it is wrong to the ninth power, whoa! So, is there no need for repentance of sin?
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is there another way other than the cross our did you misread my post?
 
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Kerry said:
is there another way other than the cross our did you misread my post?
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The cross brings us to repentance, reconciling us to the Father. Is that the end of the story?
 
Flamingspirit

Flamingspirit

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Kerry said:
You miss the point of brother, not everyone is your brother and some want to kill you and hate you and we are to love them in a individual since. But if Islam wants to take over the world and force you to serve their God then kill them.
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I can only control and guard my heart. This should NOT be our concern. We are to love, even our enemies! Why? Because whether we understand it or not, we all have one father! Do not let TV Hollywood shape your thoughts on people who are struggling to find their way just like you. It is designed so that we WON'T come together.
 
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Mem said:
The cross brings us to repentance, reconciling us to the Father. Is that the end of the story?
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Is there anything else it's what the bible is all about unless we add to it.
 
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We can love the sinner and still hate the sin.

Muslims do not believe that Christ is their savior nor the Gospel message. We should pray for them to see His truth but we should not embrace their lies at truth. Just as God warned against worshiping idols, we should not worship false gods in a mistaken belief that we are promoting "love"

For it is not love to allow people to walk the paths towards hell without crying warning.
 
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Ariel82

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Kerry said:
Is there anything else it's what the bible is all about unless we add to it.
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God does call us to add to our faith these things:

2 Peter 1
[h=3][/h][SUP]5 [/SUP]But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, [SUP]6 [/SUP]to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, [SUP]7 [/SUP]to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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Flamingspirit said:
I can only control and guard my heart. This should NOT be our concern. We are to love, even our enemies! Why? Because whether we understand it or not, we all have one father! Do not let TV Hollywood shape your thoughts on people who are struggling to find their way just like you. It is designed so that we WON'T come together.
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WW2 we didn't come together did we. Christian me killed christian men did we not? But some Christian men killed 6 million Jews and God used us to stop it did He not, by miracle, by wonders, no but by men killing men. Dude read the bible.
 
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Kerry

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Ariel82 said:
God does call us to add to our faith these things:

2 Peter 1
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, [SUP]6 [/SUP]to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, [SUP]7 [/SUP]to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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read Jeremiah again and then read it again, then read 1 Kings and then read it again. Christians are not to be passive. We are not to be kind when a knife is in our back, we must stand up and speak up for the marality of God in our nation and if it comes to arms then it comes to arms or do you like German and dictatorship?
 
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Kerry said:
Is there anything else it's what the bible is all about unless we add to it.
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Well, working to love thy enemy, for example. Yeah, you might have to kill him, but that is not quite murder as murder involves hatred. For example, a former soldier related a story about disarming a combatant, he didn't kill him, so it maybe argued that he didn't shoot with the intent to kill. Had he killed him, it may be argued that it was not his intent although it was a result. What governs whether he shot with at least a concern not to kill and shooting with "die $@#!" in his heart? That is the difference between guilt and innocence, and what sets apart the righteous from the unrighteous. Imo.
 
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Kerry

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Mem said:
Well, working to love thy enemy, for example. Yeah, you might have to kill Him, but that is not quite murder as murder involves hatred. For example, a former soldier related a story about disarming a combatant, he didn't kill him, so it maybe argued that he didn't shoot with the intent to kill. Had he killed him, it may be argued that it was not his intent although it was a result. What governs whether he shot with at least a concern not to kill and shooting with "die $@#!" in his heart? That is the difference between guilt and innocence, and what sets apart the righteous from the unrighteous. Imo.
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what would have happened if we had not dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki amd killed millions of people? David a man after Gods own heart killed more men than any one in history so much so that God would not allow him to build His temple.
 
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Flamingspirit

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Kerry said:
WW2 we didn't come together did we. Christian me killed christian men did we not? But some Christian men killed 6 million Jews and God used us to stop it did He not, by miracle, by wonders, no but by men killing men. Dude read the bible.
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All of what you mentioned including WW2 was a PLANNED event! War is for money! Our deaths is just a bonus!
 
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Flamingspirit said:
All of what you mentioned including WW2 was a PLANNED event! War is for money! Our deaths is just a bonus!
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So America planned on killing 6 million innocent Jew? are you mad. Yes we profited from the war can you find a biblical war where the winner didn't take the spoils, not until Vietnam and Afghanistan where we were the police and not an invading force which is stupid and why it cost us more that we started.
 
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Ariel82 said:
We can love the sinner and still hate the sin.

Muslims do not believe that Christ is their savior nor the Gospel message. We should pray for them to see His truth but we should not embrace their lies at truth. Just as God warned against worshiping idols, we should not worship false gods in a mistaken belief that we are promoting "love"

For it is not love to allow people to walk the paths towards hell without crying warning.
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Kerry said:
read Jeremiah again and then read it again, then read 1 Kings and then read it again. Christians are not to be passive. We are not to be kind when a knife is in our back, we must stand up and speak up for the marality of God in our nation and if it comes to arms then it comes to arms or do you like German and dictatorship?
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????? not sure how your response is directed to me. I stated we should speak up for what is right, but this is really going to derail this thread if we go into politics.....
 
peacefulbeliever

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There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Rom. 8:1,2 [But if the ministration of death . . .was glorious. . . which was to be done away . . . if the ministration of condemnation be glory MUCH MORE doth the ministration of righteousness EXCEED in glory . . . For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remained is glorious. 1 Co. 3]

For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace. Gal. 5:4

Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, you which are spiritual restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself lest thou also be tempted. Bear you one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
 
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