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JESUS peace be upon him. We Muslims love him and are eagerly waiting for the day he will come to this earth and establish his kingdom. KINGDOM OF PEACE AND SECURITY
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About they only thing islam got right from reading their scriptures, is that Jesus will return.

Little do they know that when He returns and sees how they reject The Son, then they will be judged and cast down to spend eternity with Satan...i.e. the god 'allah'...
 
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Bowman..

I believe Jesus peace be upon is the honoured messenger of the god but not god. You believe he is god. Whoever it telling a lie let the curse of God be on him. Do you confirm..
 
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Sermon on the mount:

21*“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’*will enter the kingdom of heaven,but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven

*22*Many will say to me on that day,*‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’*23*Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
 

PennEd

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SYED, why have you refused to answer my question? Don't YOU believe in the "noble" quran? Do YOU believe you should follow allah's direction in these verses?


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

Are you fearful to answer SYED?
 
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That explains the war...its scary
 
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Kerry

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the only good muslim is a dead musilm, I can say that because we said it in WW2 a dead kraut is good kraut . and a good snake is a dead snake.

But we must preach the gospel to them and love them, but not accept their ways.
 

Jackson123

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About Quran said, Mary is Aaron sister, I think it is mistake. I believe Quran mean that Mary is Aaron sister, not Aaron descendant.

1. The fact is that Mary is Aaron sister, so Mohammad misunderstood. He think Mary the sister of Aaron is the same Mary the mother of Jesus.

2. Mary the mother or Jesus is not descendant of Aaron, we can read from the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew.
 
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Bowman..

I believe Jesus peace be upon is the honoured messenger of the god but not god.
You believe this LIE because you follow islam over that of the authors of your Koran.

The Arabic of the Koran proclaims that Jesus IS God.





You believe he is god.
The Holy Bible, and, later, the Koran, tells me that Jesus IS God (upper case).





Whoever it telling a lie let the curse of God be on him. Do you confirm..
May the True Biblical God stand up.
 
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Koranic Islam, not necessarily the majority of Muslims that likely couldn't find a needed verse in that book, are engaged in a war of deceit against the whole world. Being a war particularly against Jews and Christians, lying is sanctioned. There are many approved instances for lying, in contrast to the Bible prohibition of lying altogether. I see Muslim trolls are popping up in more places lately. It is a lie that Islam embraces Christians in any way. In Abrabic nations it is still a crime to convert from Islam to Christianity or Judaism. The proof is in such atrocities as the Islamic hatred of Iraqi Christians being chased to their deaths just for being Christians. When the Muslim world stands almost totally silent in the matter, all those silent, and extremist Muslims have their blood on their hands.

For a solid background in this war that is actually one against humanity by humans, not outer space aliens, read up at Answering Islam, A Christian-Muslim Dialog and Apologetic
 
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If you read the history, Muslims were driven out of their homes in Mecca and had to migrate to Medina at the time of Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him. They had to leave everything behind. This was an act of aggression.

Only reason they were expelled was that they said God is one. At that time there was one seperate God for each tribe and more than 100 gods.


"God is one" no true Muslim can compromise on this.

God does not like arrogant and transgressors
 
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On 14 September 2007,*ORB International, an independent polling agency located in London, published*estimates of the total war casualties in Iraq*since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.[1]*At over 1.2 million deaths (1,220,580).

This war could have been avoided and but on a false pretext millions were killed.. who is accountable.
 
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I agree we should not be silent when innocent people are getting killed. You cannot kill someone for someone else's mistake. Aggressors and transgressors will be placed at the bottom of the hell.
 

tribesman

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Denying the atoning death of Christ, and Christ as the Son of God, thereby being equal with God, is among some of the issues which makes christianity and islam totally incompatible with each other. So, Jakob, you need to choose up on one of them two.
 
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JESUS peace be upon him will return and he will decide who are the killers and true followers. Wait as we are waiting ... you made Jesus peace be upon him a god and invented a terrible lie. Jesus peace be upon him never mentioned in Bible that he is God. Sermon on the mount were he says that ONLY and ONLY who does the will of Father will enter paradise.
Syed, in Islam teaching, angel Gabriel said to your prophet that, there is no corrupt in the Bible, the people of the Torah/Old Testament and the Good News/New Testament in the HOLY BIBLE. He even instructed your prophet to go and learn from the people who have the Torah and the Good News. He was also instructed not to challenge them nor oppose them.

But what did your prophet do or even teach his followers today? Murder, trick and ambush them the Jews and the Christian when your number He even disobeyed the messenger of GOD, Angel Gabriel. So you are his children and do what he tells you to do, at one time He started to receive messages from demons. He says something to his followers today and the next he changes it and testify he was tricked by a demon.

So, in this few points dear witnesses, how reliable is such prophet. All the true prophet of GOD in the HOLY BIBLE never received nor gave mixed good and false messages to built up GOD's people. The people who are built up on this will only become confused people themselves and in fear murder the actual innocent ones of GOD.

JESUS, whom you repeatedly proclaim, 'peace be upon HIM' said to HIS Disciples whom passed onto us by GOD's will even reminding us today and to 'be alert' and 'stay awake' that;

"After Me there will be 'false prophets, false teachers and false messiah."

Repent Syed!

In order for you to truthfully understand the HOLY BIBLE, you need to be born from above. not only by water but also the the HOLY SPIRIT.
 

john832

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SYED, why have you refused to answer my question? Don't YOU believe in the "noble" quran? Do YOU believe you should follow allah's direction in these verses?


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

Are you fearful to answer SYED?
If you read the history, Muslims were driven out of their homes in Mecca and had to migrate to Medina at the time of Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him. They had to leave everything behind. This was an act of aggression.

Only reason they were expelled was that they said God is one. At that time there was one seperate God for each tribe and more than 100 gods.


"God is one" no true Muslim can compromise on this.

God does not like arrogant and transgressors
He is not real fond of murderers that run around beheading journalists either...

1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
 
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Syed I would like to ask how you feel about Israel having a homeland.The Bible says that the Jews are God's chosen people and if you bless them you are blessed and if you curse them you are cursed.Many Muslims seem to disagree with this fact and have vowed to kill the Jews. Jesus was a Jew so why is there so much animosity and hatred between Jews and Muslims?Thank you.
 
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SYED, why have you refused to answer my question? Don't YOU believe in the "noble" quran? Do YOU believe you should follow allah's direction in these verses?


Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam. (5:33)
The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque (9:28)
Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies
(22:19)
Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them (47:4)
The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an (8:12)
Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

Are you fearful to answer SYED?
Hi Pen

Verses from the Quran should be read with context. You cannot cut, copy and paste whatever you like. I will give you an example below:

Misquoted Verse

But if they turn away, catch them and slaughter them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (4:89)

This verse has been misquoted out of context. Here is the full passage:

4:88-91*Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden).***** But if they revert to [open] enmity,*seize them and slay them wherever ye find them;**** and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them
 

PennEd

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Hi Pen

Verses from the Quran should be read with context. You cannot cut, copy and paste whatever you like. I will give you an example below:

Misquoted Verse

But if they turn away, catch them and slaughter them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." (4:89)

This verse has been misquoted out of context. Here is the full passage:

4:88-91*Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way. They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they forsake the domain of evil in the way of God (from what is forbidden).***** But if they revert to [open] enmity,*seize them and slay them wherever ye find them;**** and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (Of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God hath opened no way for you (to war against them). Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto; if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them; in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them

That context isn't helping your cause. All of those verses I posted say CONVERT OR KILL! I'd submit that you hate allah for not obeying the "noble" quran.

Either that or denounce him and accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and forsake the religion of hatred and satan.
 
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kaylagrl

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Syed Israel has given land for peace to Egypt and is willing to do so with others.So according to the Koran that you just shared Muslims should be living in peace with Israel since they have offered peace.Is this not right?
 
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Syed Israel has given land for peace to Egypt and is willing to do so with others.So according to the Koran that you just shared Muslims shoulda be living in peace with Israel since they have offered peace.Is this not right?
Egypt, Syria and Jordan already have a peace agreements with Israel. Israel has a right to exist peacefully as do other nations.