Ben Carson for 2016?

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Republican Ben Carson Hints He May Throw His Hat in the 2016 Ring - ABC News

I like the fact that he's not ashamed to say about the Bible and the fact that political correctness is ruining this country. Hmm... I still would need a bit more convincing before considering on being involved into politics. Americans, what's your opinion, especially given that he's a republican and we've had nearly two terms (first time in history) with a democratic president?
 

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I don't touch politics with a ten foot pole, I don't even vote.
 
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Republican Ben Carson Hints He May Throw His Hat in the 2016 Ring - ABC News

I like the fact that he's not ashamed to say about the Bible and the fact that political correctness is ruining this country. Hmm... I still would need a bit more convincing before considering on being involved into politics. Americans, what's your opinion, especially given that he's a republican and we've had nearly two terms (first time in history) with a democratic president?

Clinton had two terms....Carson would be a good leader, He has Godly wisdom
 
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I stand corrected. :p Or... sit, rather?

But anyway, there seems to be good vibes for that man. I hope he sticks around with the consideration of running and see what happens from there on.
 
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I don't see anything wrong with Ben Carson, but he will not be hired as President in 2016. He just does not have the political experience. However, so many of you all even mention him, plus he is seemingly very interesting person from my research. I think he could get elected to some position like House of Representatives, depending where he live of course, which I am not sure of off top of my head.

2016 election is simple, it is 2014 and Hillary Clinton may be the only rational choice given the high profile potential GOP candidates and even among her own party. However, Hillary still has yet to decide if she wants to serve as President or not.
 

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Given that he is a Republican I'm automatically leaning against him, but who knows? He may be better than the run of the mill party members.
 
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Given that he is a Republican I'm automatically leaning against him, but who knows? He may be better than the run of the mill party members.
That is also sadly a poor way to vote, and no blame, obviously most of the politicos do that lol. If you're gonna vote and look at politics on the real, gotta look kinda past the parties, they do matter in ways, but when it comes down to it for President, you need someone serious for that job so don't limit yourself to Party. After all you are pretty much hiring someone and giving them access to the nuclear launch codes.
 
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Access to nuclear launch codes isn't really a big thing I consider but if I did I'd probably be even less willing to elect a republican due to their propensity to solvethings with violence...Bush Jr.

Mostly republicans take a rather dismal stance n social issues and civil rights for my taste.
 
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It doesn't matter who runs & wins in American politics because the status quo is too tainted & corrupt to function normally. It will get worse before it gets better.

We won't have complete eternal peace until Jesus return and rule from Jerusalem.
 
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Access to nuclear launch codes isn't really a big thing I consider but if I did I'd probably be even less willing to elect a republican due to their propensity to solvethings with violence...Bush Jr.

Mostly republicans take a rather dismal stance n social issues and civil rights for my taste.
It will be national disaster if the Republicans capture all three branches of governments. Likely to happen in 2016.

I find it fascinating that the Roman Empire lasted nearly 700 years and superpower USA may not make it to the 100 year mark.
 

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I now live in another country and cannot get the American news, but saw a brief speech by a Republican. I find it interesting that this man (a republican) was claiming that he wants to help turn America around and take back America. But if there continues to be an indifference to God, a poor foundation, no love, why would God would ever rebuild it? He does not build on sinking sand. There is a reason God uproots nations. After travelling and living abroad I now see how and why certain countries succeed. It's based on the people and the people's hearts. "If my people repent I will heal their land". I do believe there is a point of no return.
 
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Why does his religious views even matter? What benefit does one have when a God fearing Christian is in the white house?

Do you believe the government should pass laws that make all sin illegal? Or do you believe certain sins should be illegal? The reason I ask this is because a religion in which people are forced to abide by it's doctrines only leads to corruption. Whether or not you follow religious doctrine or not is a personal choice - so whether or not politicians believe in God should have no bearing on why you vote for them.

And if you want to argue that Christians have better values than non-Christians, then you're making a pretty rash judgement. It's like saying, "Look at these two people. This man goes to church every Sunday and praises God. This other man is an atheist. Who would you vote for?" You vote for the Christian only to find out he supports liberal policies, wants to take away our personal freedoms, etc. You would feel even more foolish to discover the atheist supported the free market, believed we own our own bodies and not the government, etc.

My biggest problem with people who want religion in government is that they fail to realize that government CAN'T BE TRUSTED WITH RELIGION. Everyone wants this idea religious government, but the government is always going to be run by people who you disagree with... and you're giving them the ability to use YOUR GOD'S NAME FOR THEIR AGENDA?! Politicians shouldn't appeal to Christians by saying, "God would want us to help the poor by raising taxes". That's arguably mishandling God's name for their own agenda. And by letting politicians get away with it, you allow them to bastardize Christianity or whatever other religion is favored.

Look at all the religious wars we have had throughout history. Notice anything? Almost all of them happened because the government claimed to be an authority on the religion and enforced religious views on the people. Religious violence rarely occurs outside of government! And this is about war... not to mention all the polities in which people use God's name to persuade Christians they're right.

Question: Would you rather have a Christian president who raised taxes, started needless wars, bailed out irresponsible corporations, raised inheritance tax, and enforced policies that invade our private lives such as allowing police to monitor our actions at home? Or would you rather have an atheist who wants a secular government in which people are allowed to praise whomever they want in the privacy of their own home, who wanted to lower taxes and rely on a free market, let children inherit the money their parents worked for, and protect our privacy by forcing police to go through due process to obtain warrants so that one must have actual probable cause to break into a person's home in the name of "safety"?

I'm assuming the majority of Americans here are Republican. The point I'm trying to make is that it's the policies politicians want to enforce that's important, not their religious views.

And before anyone brings up abortion - abortion can not be made illegal because God thinks it's a sin - that's unconstitutional. The only argument to keep abortion illegal is because it's the death of a living person - which is a legitimate argument.

I rant about this because every president we've ever had has professed belief in God, and yet their policies vary greatly and all of them simply increased the size of government and either increased people's dependence on the government or intervened in the free market and spent our money on questionable companies that shouldn't get favoritism. Obviously, it would be wrong to conclude all Christian politicians support bigger government - but people will vote for Christians who are for big government simply because they're Christian and republican! This is why I loved Ron Paul so much, he wanted a free market with little government intrusion and he wanted to find ways in which we became less dependent on the government and taxation. Ron Paul is a Christian and I believe he was even a creationist (don't quote me on the latter part). But guess what, even though I'm an atheist and I think creationism is completely bogus, I support Ron Paul's views.

Essentially, what I'm trying to say is... don't vote for people based off their religious views. That's just stupid.
 
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Well this Charlatan we have is the white house now certainly isn't a christian, at least not a biblical one. The bible says salt water and fresh water can't flow from the same faucet and yet this covert muslim claims to be christian while chipping away at our morality and freedoms
 
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I don't have a problem with anybody rather Republican or Democrat as president as long as they actually work for the people. And that means making it easier for the middle to lower classes.

The thing I do worry about is that it has been the Republicans that are in Congress that have been pushing for an all out war again in the middle east. When the majority of the American public is saying no.
 
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Well this Charlatan we have is the white house now certainly isn't a christian, at least not a biblical one. The bible says salt water and fresh water can't flow from the same faucet and yet this covert muslim claims to be christian while chipping away at our morality and freedoms

This is a common trend that has come from 4 of the last 5 presidents.
Our civil liberties and rights have been chipped away at since Reagan, and actually even before that.

I saw a person the other day on a news cast that was surprised at a state law that was being passed that would be a violation of what the federal laws say. I thought about that for only a second, and thought if they are surprised with that then they need to look into closer their own state laws.

They will be surprised just how many state laws, no matter what state you live in, contradict federal laws.
 
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As long as Americans look to government for solutions they will always have problems.
 
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The biggest problem with government for Christians is that a lot of us want to have somebody as president that will try to enforce and pass only biblical standards as laws.
The problem with this is that America is made up of different cultures, nationalities, religions, beliefs, and people with different moral values. The laws has to accommodate all these different types of people, if not it would be forcing the beliefs of others on to those who don't believe that way.

Even the bible says not to do this, to force ones belief on another.
 
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I don't have a problem with anybody rather Republican or Democrat as president as long as they actually work for the people. And that means making it easier for the middle to lower classes.

The thing I do worry about is that it has been the Republicans that are in Congress that have been pushing for an all out war again in the middle east. When the majority of the American public is saying no.
I have heard many people make this statement about both parties.
Can you please be specific as to what they have done that constitutes war on the middle class.
When some one makes these statements, they should be ready to prove it.
 
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It will be national disaster if the Republicans capture all three branches of governments. Likely to happen in 2016.
Seriously. This will not be good. You must have checks and balances, no matter who is in power.

It will be an effective suspension of Democracy. Not good for any one party to have total control.