What of the dinosaurs?

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I see the pictures above, but what makes a dino become a bird?

The pictures do not convince me .... to obscure
 
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I see the pictures above, but what makes a dino become a bird?

The pictures do not convince me .... to obscure
Then you will need to enroll in college, major in paleontology, and then personally excavate fossils.

Apparently the mistranslated, edited, and redacted words in a book are convincing to you, but physical evidence you ignore.

One of my former students discovered a wonderful "stem group" or "transitional" fossil. Its scientific name is Gomphotaria pugnax. It is the ancestor of the walrus, elephant seal, and sea lion group. What will not be published in the textbooks is that he "discovered" the fossil one morning while taking a "call of nature" in a fieldwork setting. Looking down, he was shocked to see he had "washed off" a bone fragment.
 
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I'm so over this thread. I bid thee adieu. May some of you learn to use your brains.
 
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I'm so over this thread. I bid thee adieu. May some of you learn to use your brains.
They have used their brains (washed) by stOOpid, regurgitated acid guru college professors who were too busy smoking pot and taking LSD to know what they were saying......yeah, I know how to spell stupid!

Timothy Leary converts for sure!
 
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I'm so over this thread. I bid thee adieu. May some of you learn to use your brains.
Hey brother I also forgot.....They have a piece of paper signed by somebody that states that they know something......!
 
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Are you trying to suggest that Sir Isaac Newton was never wrong? Of course he was! He was an incredibly brilliant human being, but this doesn't mean he didn't hold any flawed views. Isaac Newton was also an alchemist, alchemy having been debunked and discredited long ago.

You'll find numerous men and women throughout history who were absolute geniuses, many of whom worshiped different gods and sometimes even no gods. Many of them made huge scientific breakthroughs while supporting other ideas that were completely wrong. This is common, but this is what makes science so amazing. Science allows us to distinguish good ideas from bad ideas, rather than assuming all ideas from someone are correct simply because that person made a single breakthrough.
I don't see anywhere I indicated that Newton was never wrong so not sure where you want to go with that...Science is niether moral not immoral so how can there be an assumption of good or bad? My point was only that one could embrace both science and a belief in God. You what fools say about God don't you?

There's a book called "In Six Days" written by scientists, I thought it might interest GS.
 

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"Would you exclude a global flood about 4,400 years ago as causing the dino extinction?"


If course

The dinos were all gone and were never replenished upon the earth 1000 years ago before the flood of Noah's day came

The dynos went extinct because of the Lord's judgment against Satan's rebellion

I an not aware of the bible discussing dinosaurs (I do not believe that Leviathan and Behemoth are dinosaurs). So, I don't know where dinosaurs fit into the creation story. Don't misunderstand...I believe the Word of God to be true, I just try not to force things in that aren't there.


So, perhaps dinosaurs died about 1,654 YFC (Years from creation) during the flood. Or maybe their remains carried over from a previous existence (earth cycle) not written in the bible - I am not saying that I believe this, but it has crossed my mind. I have not located enough information FROM THE BIBLE to even place them in our earth cycle, if you will.

So...human curiosity makes me want to know, but it is not a salvation issue or God would have let us know. However, I believe that it can become a salvation issue when you let the words of men discredit the Word of God.
 
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There's a book called "In Six Days" written by scientists, I thought it might interest GS.
I read it many years ago. I have even met some of the contributors. Something I found interesting was that they became Christian, and then rejected science. John Baumgardner is a typical example.

One of the prominent counter examples was Glenn Morton. He graduated with his "Creation Geology" degree from the Institute for Creation Research, and went to work in the petroleum industry. He wrote that he expected to find, and expose the "lies of secular geologists" about sedimentary basins, and the age of the Earth. Instead he found out that he had been lied to by the ICR instructors. Old Earth Creation Science Testimony - Why I Left Young Earth Creationism, by Glenn Morton
 

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Don't understand something? .... ''The Devil's work''.

Evolution says nothing about the origins of life itself. It only describes a process that happened after life was already established.
Really? So God created life, He just lied about how He did it? Is that what evolution says?
 

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So you think that modern dinos are birds?

Do you have a picture of one?
Better yet, can you imagine all the intermediates between T-Rex and a hummingbird? I'd like to see all these fossils of the intermediate species.
 

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I read it many years ago. I have even met some of the contributors. Something I found interesting was that they became Christian, and then rejected science. John Baumgardner is a typical example.

One of the prominent counter examples was Glenn Morton. He graduated with his "Creation Geology" degree from the Institute for Creation Research, and went to work in the petroleum industry. He wrote that he expected to find, and expose the "lies of secular geologists" about sedimentary basins, and the age of the Earth. Instead he found out that he had been lied to by the ICR instructors. Old Earth Creation Science Testimony - Why I Left Young Earth Creationism, by Glenn Morton
What they rejected was this...

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.
 
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The bird thing is a total hoax concocted by intellectual idiots trapped in their man made folly

Wisdom and intellect are not necessarily congruent

Can anyone see the agnostic evolutionist in scripture?

This is what the Lord says [Romans 1:16-23]
 
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The mathagisticsts presented by "Dr" Cupps cannot fool an actual expert. But they will fool people that want to be fooled.
I think this is the key. Those who read creationist literature do so to have their beliefs reinforced. They do not want to view material that runs counter to those views. In saying this I speak from personal experience.
 

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The bird thing is a total hoax concocted by intellectual idiots trapped in their man made folly

Wisdom and intellect are not necessarily congruent

Can anyone see the agnostic evolutionist in scripture?

This is what the Lord says [Romans 1:16-23]
It would be VERY CONVINCING to see some reptiles with partially formed wings, some with partially formed beaks, and some with partially formed hollow bones. For evolution to work, there should be millions of intermediate steps between a dino and a completely formed bird. Wonder where they are?
 
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It would be VERY CONVINCING to see some reptiles with partially formed wings, some with partially formed beaks, and some with partially formed hollow bones. For evolution to work, there should be millions of intermediate steps between a dino and a completely formed bird. Wonder where they are?
Not to be found as there is no such thing.....again they (the intellectuals who have a piece of toilet paper on the wall that states that they know something) keep regurgitating (theory) as fact. There is no missing link to be found as evolution as a fact is a farce....as a theory is exactly that...a theory! It is funny how they place their trust into circular reasoning, carbon dating and the opinions of mere men who think they actually know something based upon a signed piece of paper or two that states that they are intellectual and that they know something.....Instead they will reject a book that was written by 40 different men over a period of 1600 years with most not knowing each other and from every gambit of life, yet it all flows perfectly and through attempt after attempt to be discounted, burned out, killed out it is still the number 1 best seller of all time.....they fail to acknowledge the fact that it contains (scientific) data that could not have been known by mere men and it (the bible) reeks of divine inspiration.....like Isaiah written in circa 720 B.C. and how he BY NAME identifies Cyrus the Persian who some 180 to 190 years later would conquer Babylon and write the decree to let the Jews return to their home land and or how even ALEXANDER the GREAT was so impressed with the BOOK of DANIEL and his predicted rise to dominance that he spared Jerusalem and gave them 7 years without taxation......They will ride their (opinionated) theories straight to the gates of hell, and even the rich man while cooking in the flames of hell will still reject the one true God and ALL of the PROOF that testifies to the truth and validity of the scriptures.......!
 
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It is funny how they place their trust into circular reasoning, carbon dating and the opinions of mere men who think they actually know something based upon a signed piece of paper or two that states that they are intellectual and that they know something.....
Fossils are dated by the strata they are found in. Wanna guess how the strata is dated?
 

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...Those who read creationist literature do so to have their beliefs reinforced. They do not want to view material that runs counter to those views. In saying this I speak from personal experience.
Sorry but...How do you know this? You may some personal experiences that align with this. Yes. But knowing this for sure would require God-like ability to read hearts and minds and motives.

People are not all the same.
 
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"Those who read creationist literature do so to have their beliefs reinforced


Yes they do .... they read God's Word .... the Creator's "literature"

You should give it a try
 
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Not to be found as there is no such thing.....again they (the intellectuals who have a piece of toilet paper on the wall that states that they know something) keep regurgitating (theory) as fact. There is no missing link to be found as evolution as a fact is a farce....as a theory is exactly that...a theory! It is funny how they place their trust into circular reasoning, carbon dating and the opinions of mere men who think they actually know something based upon a signed piece of paper or two that states that they are intellectual and that they know something.....Instead they will reject a book that was written by 40 different men over a period of 1600 years with most not knowing each other and from every gambit of life, yet it all flows perfectly and through attempt after attempt to be discounted, burned out, killed out it is still the number 1 best seller of all time.....they fail to acknowledge the fact that it contains (scientific) data that could not have been known by mere men and it (the bible) reeks of divine inspiration.....like Isaiah written in circa 720 B.C. and how he BY NAME identifies Cyrus the Persian who some 180 to 190 years later would conquer Babylon and write the decree to let the Jews return to their home land and or how even ALEXANDER the GREAT was so impressed with the BOOK of DANIEL and his predicted rise to dominance that he spared Jerusalem and gave them 7 years without taxation......They will ride their (opinionated) theories straight to the gates of hell, and even the rich man while cooking in the flames of hell will still reject the one true God and ALL of the PROOF that testifies to the truth and validity of the scriptures.......!
The subject of this thread is dinosaurs.

Your incoherent rant establishes that the T. rex fossils discovered to date are 6,000 to 4,000 years old as opposed to more than 65 million years old exactly how?
 

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The subject of this thread is dinosaurs.

Your incoherent rant establishes that the T. rex fossils discovered to date are 6,000 to 4,000 years old as opposed to more than 65 million years old exactly how?
Seems to me the burden of proof is on those who propose the theory to prove it true.