Error correcting the bible

[granpa]

instead those denying that there are errors in the bible
you should be asking what we can learn from those errors.

how do you know god didn't deliberately put those errors there to teach us some important lesson?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidimensional_parity-check_code

the existence of errors within a message does not automatically render that message useless

two-dimensional parity-check code:

Assume that the goal is to transmit the four-digit message "1234", using a two-dimensional parity scheme. First the digits of the message are arranged in a rectangular pattern:

12
34

Parity digits are then calculated by summing each column and row separately:

123
347
46

The eight-digit sequence "12334746" is the message that is actually transmitted. If any single error occurs during transmission then this error can not only be detected but can also be corrected as well. Let us suppose that the received message contained an error in the first digit. The receiver rearranges the message into the grid:

923
347
46

The receiver can see that the first row and also the first column add up incorrectly. Using this knowledge and the assumption that only one error occurred, the receiver can correct the error. In order to handle two errors, a 4-dimensional scheme would be required, at the cost of more parity digits.

 

[granpa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis#Genesis_numbers

Genesis 5:
This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. And Adam lived 130 years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

Septuagint:
THIS [is] the genealogy of men in the day in which God made Adam; in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them, and blessed them; and he called his name Adam, in the day in which he made them. And Adam lived 230 years, and begot [a son] after his [own] form, and after his [own] image, and he called his name Seth

 

[JimmieD]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis#Genesis_numbers

Genesis 5:
This is the book of the genealogy of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and blessed them and called them Mankind in the day they were created. And Adam lived 130 years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

Septuagint:
THIS [is] the genealogy of men in the day in which God made Adam; in the image of God he made him: male and female he made them, and blessed them; and he called his name Adam, in the day in which he made them. And Adam lived 230 years, and begot [a son] after his [own] form, and after his [own] image, and he called his name Seth

Samaritan Pentateuch: 130
Book of Jubilees: 130


How do you propose to decide which one is correct?

 

[posthuman]

i see some conflicting transmissions but where is the checksum?

 

[granpa]

well as we could identify some event that clearly is associated with one of their deaths then that would act as a sort of checksum

for example, the fall of man being associated with the death of Adam
At-a-glance/The Bible - Religion-wiki

 

[kaylagrl]

I dont believe the Bible has errors. How do you trust a Holy Book full of errors? Inspired,perfect Word of God.

 

[granpa]

God created us and we aren't perfect

as I said before, even the errors may be inspired

 

[oldhermit]

I dont believe the Bible has errors. How do you trust a Holy Book full of errors? Inspired,perfect Word of God.

As a matter of fact there are many errors. These errors are the result of a number of factors relating to discrepancies from the Hebrew and Greek manuscript, all of which are copies. There are no original texts extant.

 

[kaylagrl]

God created us and we aren't perfect

as I said before, even the errors may be inspired

God created us to be perfect,then we sinned.It was our fault.He made us perfect.

 

[kaylagrl]

As a matter of fact there are many errors. These errors are the result of a number of factors relating to discrepancies from the Hebrew and Greek manuscript, all of which are copies. There are no original texts extant.

So we are all believing in error? How do we then know what is true and what is false?

 

[Straightshot]

There are no errors in the Lord's Word [original manuscripts

All scripture is "God breathed"

He does not make errors

Only men do .... with faulty interpretations ..... and doubts

 

[kennethcadwell]

There are translation errors in the English versions of the bible we have, the thing is that none of the errors in question in my studies deal with or change the gospel message of salvation. They may cause strife or division on different parts of the bible reading and how people apply it to their own teaching principles, but the gospel message remains the same.

Other translation error examples, or rewording;

Red sea - actual translation > sea of reeds

The changing of scripture as in 1 Corinthians to the answer given for if it is wrong for man to have long hair;

1 Corinthians 11:16

English Standard Version
If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor do the churches of God.

New American Standard Bible
But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God.

King James Bible
But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.


Notice these three said the same thing that there is no such custom making long hair on a man wrong, but now look at these other versions;



New Living Translation
But if anyone wants to argue about this, I simply say that we have no other custom than this, and neither do God's other churches.


Holman Christian Standard Bible
But if anyone wants to argue about this, we have no other custom, nor do the churches of God.




They have changed no such to no other custom making some to stick to what is taught in some branches of the church that long hair on a man is a sin, and that Jesus would have been clean cut and shaven do to this passage.

 

[granpa]

So we are all believing in error? How do we then know what is true and what is false?

if you had read the op you would know the answer to that

 

[oldhermit]

So we are all believing in error? How do we then know what is true and what is false?

The full complement of manuscript evidence is the best attested of any ancient document making the most reliable document of the ancient world. The magnitude of evidence is overwhelming. Most discrepancies do not amount to much more than the different spelling of a word or the use of a different form of a word in one text over another. There are very few discrepancies of real consequence.

 

[secularhermit]

I dont believe the Bible has errors. How do you trust a Holy Book full of errors? Inspired,perfect Word of God.

Hi! God made man (and women) perfectly and no one would say some of the are perfect but, I have read inspired books, inspired songs, movies or poems...

It has errors! you may call them human's faults, but these are ERRORs and, if I'm allowed too (no doubt I'd dare) the NT could be less inspired than the OT, because it shows more "errors". Example, if the OT said "Listen... There's ONE God..." the interpretations of NT (human's interpretation) seemed to say there is "more" than ONE God, but Lord Jesus said: "There's only ONE good, God" that day some approached Him saying things to get His opinion and, at the day He was transfigured in a mountain, where Pete, James and John was, God spoke saying: This is my SON... Listen to Him..." But we listened to us and still think we're inspired and faultless.

In Corint Paul said something like: "...when perfection comes..." refering to a couple of things like tongues, prophecy, etc., I hope that perfection comes soon, just as paul said: "... we know in part, and in part we prophecy..."

 

[secularhermit]

There are no errors in the Lord's Word [original manuscripts

All scripture is "God breathed"

He does not make errors

Only men do .... with faulty interpretations ..... and doubts

Human kind was also "breathed", particularly ADAM and history shows the end result, by the way.

Many things He has done PERFECTLY but, after sin entered earth, it's too naive (of me) to believe His creation lacked other ways of falling short... Jesus, His own time, critiziced His people for INTRODUCING their traditions above GOD's commandmenst, so here is easy to see those were also blinded by their tradition (the way Catholics are when saying we -protestants- have introduced herecies in the pure Christian doctrine).

Those faulty interpretations you mentioned has led us to create multiple denominations and churches, by the way. So, Jews introduced man-made doctrines above GOD's will and, our MISINTERPRETATIONS, also drove us to difering denominations.

Those days were essenes, saducees, Herodians, Pharisees... and the same is today.

 

[granpa]

bear in mind that the language itself has changed since the scriptures were written down.
The meaning of many of the words in the Old Testament are obscure or even completely unknown

 

[secularhermit]

As a matter of fact there are many errors. These errors are the result of a number of factors relating to discrepancies from the Hebrew and Greek manuscript, all of which are copies. There are no original texts extant.

yet, in its essence, those copies served for its main purpose: Make us to believe. Thanks GOD for that!

 

[secularhermit]

bear in mind that the language itself has changed since the scriptures were written down.
The meaning of many of the words in the Old Testament are obscure or even completely unknown

Sure! That's where JESUS was needed to RE INTERPRET what GOD intended, from the begining.

 

[secularhermit]

God created us and we aren't perfect

as I said before, even the errors may be inspired

To me, I'm just the best inspired ERROR I surely know.

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