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President Barack Obama is expected to deny federal contracts to companies and non-profits — including religious employers — that treat homosexuality differently from heterosexuality, according to White House officials affecting roughly 20 percent of the nation’s workforce.
This is blatant discrimination against religious organizations that violates their human rights under natural law to a free moral conscience and their religious liberty.
But it's happening nonetheless. So if you're a genuine Christian organization, you can no longer do business for the federal government in the U.S.. Only organizations that accept homosexual immorality are allowed to by law moving forward.
Religious Groups LGBT Gay Contractors Executive Order Obama | The Daily Caller
This is blatant discrimination against religious organizations that violates their human rights under natural law to a free moral conscience and their religious liberty.
But it's happening nonetheless. So if you're a genuine Christian organization, you can no longer do business for the federal government in the U.S.. Only organizations that accept homosexual immorality are allowed to by law moving forward.
Religious Groups LGBT Gay Contractors Executive Order Obama | The Daily Caller
Sin is a cancer, that if allowed to remain, spreads. We have seen this in our own country - with homosexuality (not only this, but it is the topic). As the acceptance of homosexuality increases, so does the number of people who have started practicing it.
America was founded on Christian beliefs, despite what anyone has been told. But we are quickly (and have been for quite some time) becoming a completely God-less country. There are some that used "Separation of Church and State" (by perverting it's original purpose) to remove God from our government. Separation of Church and State was intended to keep a "Church Organization" from running the government (a lesson well learned) and to keep the government from interfering in "Church" matters (also a lesson well learned). The perversion is letting the government push its God-less agendas on the citizens. In no way, form, or fashion does separation of Church and State (in its original form) tell any government employee that they can not display/show/proclaim their beliefs in God.
Job 12:23-25
[SUP]23 [/SUP]“He makes the nations great, then destroys them;
He enlarges the nations, then leads them away.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]“He deprives of intelligence the chiefs of the earth’s people
And makes them wander in a pathless waste.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“They grope in darkness with no light,
And He makes them stagger like a drunken man.
We must understand that we are part of this nation (being Americans) and I suppose, even though I don't see it specifically mentioned in any particular prophecy, that the fall of America will be great (if the world doesn't end first). And if/when it happens this will be quite a miserable place. Though I do feel that it will draw some people to God and others even further into darkness. We see this time and again in the OT, where the children of God turned away, then in time of distress they turned back to God. So I both dread and welcome this time of distress that seems to be unavoidable. For in the coming time of famine, plague, poverty, or whatever, I believe that there will be some saved that otherwise would not be saved.
No, homosexuality is not the only sin. I think that all sexual perversion is evil, as the bible tells us. And sexual immorality/perversion is not the only sin either.
Do not be confused by the teachings of our culture. Saying that sin is sin, is not a hate crime; But it is a plea made in love (by some, other "Christians" are not very loving in their proclamation).
Ezekiel 18:21-23
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [SUP]22 [/SUP]All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?
Leviticus 18:19-30
[SUP]19 [/SUP]‘Also you shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness during her menstrual impurity. [SUP]20 [/SUP]You shall not have intercourse with your neighbor’s wife, to be defiled with her. [SUP]21 [/SUP]You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.[SUP]24 [/SUP]‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. [SUP]25 [/SUP]For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants. [SUP]26 [/SUP]But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you [SUP]27 [/SUP](for the men of the land who have been before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become defiled); [SUP]28 [/SUP]so that the land will not spew you out, should you defile it, as it has spewed out the nation which has been before you. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For whoever does any of these abominations, those persons who do so shall be cut off from among their people. [SUP]30 [/SUP]Thus you are to keep My charge, that you do not practice any of the abominable customs which have been practiced before you, so as not to defile yourselves with them; I am the Lord your God.’”
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
[SUP]9 [/SUP]I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; [SUP]10 [/SUP]I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. [SUP]11 [/SUP]But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? [SUP]13 [/SUP]But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, [SUP]10 [/SUP]nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
America was founded on Christian beliefs, despite what anyone has been told. But we are quickly (and have been for quite some time) becoming a completely God-less country. There are some that used "Separation of Church and State" (by perverting it's original purpose) to remove God from our government. Separation of Church and State was intended to keep a "Church Organization" from running the government (a lesson well learned) and to keep the government from interfering in "Church" matters (also a lesson well learned). The perversion is letting the government push its God-less agendas on the citizens. In no way, form, or fashion does separation of Church and State (in its original form) tell any government employee that they can not display/show/proclaim their beliefs in God.
Job 12:23-25
[SUP]23 [/SUP]“He makes the nations great, then destroys them;
He enlarges the nations, then leads them away.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]“He deprives of intelligence the chiefs of the earth’s people
And makes them wander in a pathless waste.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“They grope in darkness with no light,
And He makes them stagger like a drunken man.
We must understand that we are part of this nation (being Americans) and I suppose, even though I don't see it specifically mentioned in any particular prophecy, that the fall of America will be great (if the world doesn't end first). And if/when it happens this will be quite a miserable place. Though I do feel that it will draw some people to God and others even further into darkness. We see this time and again in the OT, where the children of God turned away, then in time of distress they turned back to God. So I both dread and welcome this time of distress that seems to be unavoidable. For in the coming time of famine, plague, poverty, or whatever, I believe that there will be some saved that otherwise would not be saved.
No, homosexuality is not the only sin. I think that all sexual perversion is evil, as the bible tells us. And sexual immorality/perversion is not the only sin either.
Do not be confused by the teachings of our culture. Saying that sin is sin, is not a hate crime; But it is a plea made in love (by some, other "Christians" are not very loving in their proclamation).
Ezekiel 18:21-23
[SUP]21 [/SUP]“But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. [SUP]22 [/SUP]All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?
Leviticus 18:19-30
[SUP]19 [/SUP]‘Also you shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness during her menstrual impurity. [SUP]20 [/SUP]You shall not have intercourse with your neighbor’s wife, to be defiled with her. [SUP]21 [/SUP]You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Also you shall not have intercourse with any animal to be defiled with it, nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it; it is a perversion.[SUP]24 [/SUP]‘Do not defile yourselves by any of these things; for by all these the nations which I am casting out before you have become defiled. [SUP]25 [/SUP]For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants. [SUP]26 [/SUP]But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you [SUP]27 [/SUP](for the men of the land who have been before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become defiled); [SUP]28 [/SUP]so that the land will not spew you out, should you defile it, as it has spewed out the nation which has been before you. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For whoever does any of these abominations, those persons who do so shall be cut off from among their people. [SUP]30 [/SUP]Thus you are to keep My charge, that you do not practice any of the abominable customs which have been practiced before you, so as not to defile yourselves with them; I am the Lord your God.’”
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
[SUP]9 [/SUP]I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; [SUP]10 [/SUP]I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. [SUP]11 [/SUP]But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? [SUP]13 [/SUP]But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, [SUP]10 [/SUP]nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
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The WHO said studies estimate that female sex workers are 14 times more likely to have HIV than other women, gay men are 19 times more likely to have HIV than the general population, and transgender women are almost 50 times more likely than other adults to have HIV. For injecting drug users, the risks of HIV infection can be 50 times higher than the general population.
For the first time, the WHO said it "strongly recommends" that men who have sex with men should consider taking antiretroviral AIDS drugs as an extra way of protecting themselves against HIV infection, alongside using condoms.
^ Or, stop having sex with other men! Duh! But they left that out of their recommendations, of course. Just take AIDS drugs instead so when you get the HIV virus it will take longer to kill you that way. *rolls eyes*.
Key high-risk HIV groups threaten AIDS progress, warns the WHO | Reuters
For the first time, the WHO said it "strongly recommends" that men who have sex with men should consider taking antiretroviral AIDS drugs as an extra way of protecting themselves against HIV infection, alongside using condoms.
^ Or, stop having sex with other men! Duh! But they left that out of their recommendations, of course. Just take AIDS drugs instead so when you get the HIV virus it will take longer to kill you that way. *rolls eyes*.
Key high-risk HIV groups threaten AIDS progress, warns the WHO | Reuters
In case you live under a rock or simply just have not been paying attention, homosexuals have been working very hard, escpecially now that we have a very liberal government, to force others to accept their lifestyle choice as being "normal". Several states in the USA are allowing homosexuals to get married. This decision has massive implications on the Church, especially those who embrace the biblical stance that homosexuality is indeed a sin and, therefore, the Church must not participate in such sins. Pastors are being arrested for speaking out against homosexual union and Christian business owners are being sued for not wanting to participate in homosexual unions. There is a huge push by the federal government to embrace homosexual unions on the national level.
I will say it again "what's your point?" You haven't given us a clue as to what you want to say. Created a thread ... then you just took off???? There are 249 posts and how many of those are yours?? Maybe 2 or 3 ?? I rest my case. Okay, you don't have anything major to say, therefore, I will bid you goodnight.
I created a thread, and the very first response of all, was from you, "what's your point" - i'm not going to dignify that with an answer. Secondly, I haven't taken off from anything, i create a thread to educate, inform and encourage intelligent debate so people learn and grow. You are not a moderator and I am not obliged to reply to anything or a certain number of posts, you didn't create the rules. No person who starts a thread, does it to satisfy you or keep you happy. The flow of discussion was perfectly fine. If you want to come in here encouraging debate, it is a huge double standard when your first reply is "What's your point", not only is that 'challenged' unto itself, it does nothing to further intelligent discussion whatsoever. Next time you come into any thread on this forum, have something constructive and not so petty to contribute. If i you think i don't have anything 'major to say' then you've completely missed the original post.
I created a thread, and the very first response of all, was from you, "what's your point" - i'm not going to dignify that with an answer. Secondly, I haven't taken off from anything, i create a thread to educate, inform and encourage intelligent debate so people learn and grow. You are not a moderator and I am not obliged to reply to anything or a certain number of posts, you didn't create the rules. No person who starts a thread, does it to satisfy you or keep you happy. The flow of discussion was perfectly fine. If you want to come in here encouraging debate, it is a huge double standard when your first reply is "What's your point", not only is that 'challenged' unto itself, it does nothing to further intelligent discussion whatsoever. Next time you come into any thread on this forum, have something constructive and not so petty to contribute. If i you think i don't have anything 'major to say' then you've completely missed the original post.
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Bottom line is that the Sacrilegious Left has been pushing this agenda of sodomitic "marriage" through liberal politicians and jurists, and mostly through a pop culture that is decidedly anti-Christ that has managed to fabricate a facade of acceptance and tolerance, especially in the minds of the younger generations and those not anchored Biblically and spiritually. We're called to stand in firm opposition to the Sacrilegious Left.
Wow what a thread. I've noticed a few people draw parallels between homosexuality and paedophilia, which is very disturbing.
One is an act between two consenting adults and the other is abusing a child. How can you put those In the same bracket?
To diminish the horror of child abuse and class it the same as two consenting adults is quite frankly disgusting, and alarming.
One is an act between two consenting adults and the other is abusing a child. How can you put those In the same bracket?
To diminish the horror of child abuse and class it the same as two consenting adults is quite frankly disgusting, and alarming.
Because you think that humans have the right to decide good and evil. God decides, our choice is whether we listen to Him or not.
Oh wait, this has all happened before...
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Satan convinced Eve who convinced Adam they could make their own decisions about what is right and wrong. How'd that work out for the human race?
Oh wait, this has all happened before...
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Gen 3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Satan convinced Eve who convinced Adam they could make their own decisions about what is right and wrong. How'd that work out for the human race?
