Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[Jackson123]

I am not caught false dogma. Christ did establish what is the Catholic Church. This is a theological historical fact. Whoever has been instructing you is ignorant in their teaching. I do not regard you as knowing your history or theology and that you have no authority whatever over either of them.

I don't think Christ establish Killer church.

 

[notuptome]

Yet you have no problem with people applying their opinion of what the Bible says, resulting in many protestant denominations and many interpretations, reducing reliability to nothing. I don't cite biased documentation.

God has established the bible as His word. God does not change and God is not interested in opinions. Protestantism may have many factions but there is a core of beliefs in core doctrines that makes one a protestant. The efficacy of the blood of Christ, the inerrancy of the scriptures, salvation by grace apart from works to name a few.

Rome departs from the bible and rewrites the parts she doesn't agree with. All Rome has is biased documentation as they never cite independent sources only Catholic sources.

The church that Christ established is an organism not an organization. Rome is a religion and a world wide organization but she is totally dead relative to God. Rome serves with her lips but her heart is far from God except the god of her own creation.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Zifnab21]

God has established the bible as His word. God does not change and God is not interested in opinions. Protestantism may have many factions but there is a core of beliefs in core doctrines that makes one a protestant. The efficacy of the blood of Christ, the inerrancy of the scriptures, salvation by grace apart from works to name a few.

Rome departs from the bible and rewrites the parts she doesn't agree with. All Rome has is biased documentation as they never cite independent sources only Catholic sources.

The church that Christ established is an organism not an organization. Rome is a religion and a world wide organization but she is totally dead relative to God. Rome serves with her lips but her heart is far from God except the god of her own creation.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

There are many doctrinal disagreements and divisions in the Protestantism in direct contradiction to what Jesus said in John 14:6. This makes verses like Matthew 18:15-17 obsolete.

What you say is false an doesn't mean anything since I can go to the Bible and what Jesus' Church teaches instead of a private, relative and ignorant interpretation.

 

[Zifnab21]

I don't think Christ establish Killer church.

Okay, a bit vague and off the point. As if there has never been a protestant who never killed anyone. You don't need to reply I'll put you on my ignore list.

 

[passinthru]

Okay, a bit vague and off the point. As if there has never been a protestant who never killed anyone. You don't need to reply I'll put you on my ignore list.

So you are saying that if someone doe snot believe as you do they are wrong and you, rather than discussing the differences, You just ignore them. I am certainly glad that the God I serve has never ignored me and all my shortcomings. Okay go ahead and ignore me too.

 

[passinthru]

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[TD="class: td_bible_text"]For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. [/TD]
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[notuptome]

There are many doctrinal disagreements and divisions in the Protestantism in direct contradiction to what Jesus said in John 14:6. This makes verses like Matthew 18:15-17 obsolete.

What you say is false an doesn't mean anything since I can go to the Bible and what Jesus' Church teaches instead of a private, relative and ignorant interpretation.

Your reasoning so called is circular. If you encounter the truth and it is counter to church teaching you simply return to the church teaching and disclaim the truth and not church teaching. You would make a good Muslim.

You must be saved by grace through faith not of works. No church can save you. No religion can save you. No religious rites can save you. Only Christ and only by grace.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[didymos]

...You don't need to reply I'll put you on my ignore list.

You might as well add me and the rest of the christians here too.

We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us;
but whoever is not from God does not listen to us.
This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

(1 John 4:6 /NIV)

 

[Zifnab21]

So you are saying that if someone doe snot believe as you do they are wrong and you, rather than discussing the differences, You just ignore them. I am certainly glad that the God I serve has never ignored me and all my shortcomings. Okay go ahead and ignore me too.

Just applying the same logic that Protestants use when they interpret the Bible.

 

[passinthru]

Just applying the same logic that Protestants use when they interpret the Bible.

Some truth to that. I do not care for 'labels' so to speak as far as names on doors and such. lets side step that .... One simple question: Do you profess to be a Christian through what Jesus did on the cross and your accepting Him as your savior??
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[jeff_peacemkr]

as it is written in Scripture, and as per the site's directives/instructions/ guidelines I have read: catholics are 'welcome' here if they come to learn. but if they promote any rcc catholicism, they are banned. (and should be quickly to avoid contamination and perversion as is evidenced wherever they post falseness and iniquity)
just as it is written for any denomination or group that calls itself 'Christian' - the instructions of Jesus _> if anyone calls themselves believers, and won't repent of their sins, then (taking the proper steps as written in Scripture), they must be put out from among you, do not let the evil remain in your midst.

this is for the purpose, God's purpose, of making His body pure on earth, and with the hope of the offenders repenting of their grievous sins and returning to God first, and then to the assembly.

if they continue in their sins, without repenting after the appropriate warnings, do not even greet them in the marketplace, nor have a meal with them, nor visit with them, lest you become befouled by their sins. it is written, it is God's Decree.

QUOTE=passinthru;1843228]So you are saying that if someone doe snot believe as you do they are wrong and you, rather than discussing the differences, You just ignore them. I am certainly glad that the God I serve has never ignored me and all my shortcomings. Okay go ahead and ignore me too.[/QUOTE]

 

[passinthru]

as it is written in Scripture, and as per the site's directives/instructions/ guidelines I have read: catholics are 'welcome' here if they come to learn. but if they promote any rcc catholicism, they are banned. (and should be quickly to avoid contamination and perversion as is evidenced wherever they post falseness and iniquity)
just as it is written for any denomination or group that calls itself 'Christian' - the instructions of Jesus _> if anyone calls themselves believers, and won't repent of their sins, then (taking the proper steps as written in Scripture), they must be put out from among you, do not let the evil remain in your midst...................

I cut your words short just to save space. Yes I get that. My last post was not responded to yet. (
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Originally Posted by Zifnab21

Just applying the same logic that Protestants use when they interpret the Bible.

Response Posted by Passinthru: "Some truth to that. I do not care for 'labels' so to speak as far as names on doors and such. lets side step that .... One simple question: Do you profess to be a Christian through what Jesus did on the cross and your accepting Him as your savior??))


Hope for a reply.

 

[Zifnab21]

Some truth to that. I do not care for 'labels' so to speak as far as names on doors and such. lets side step that .... One simple question: Do you profess to be a Christian through what Jesus did on the cross and your accepting Him as your savior??
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I don't have a problem with labeling theology and actions and should have used Protestantism instead. I accept Jesus as the only savior.

 

[Zifnab21]

as it is written in Scripture, and as per the site's directives/instructions/ guidelines I have read: catholics are 'welcome' here if they come to learn. but if they promote any rcc catholicism, they are banned. (and should be quickly to avoid contamination and perversion as is evidenced wherever they post falseness and iniquity)
just as it is written for any denomination or group that calls itself 'Christian' - the instructions of Jesus _> if anyone calls themselves believers, and won't repent of their sins, then (taking the proper steps as written in Scripture), they must be put out from among you, do not let the evil remain in your midst.

this is for the purpose, God's purpose, of making His body pure on earth, and with the hope of the offenders repenting of their grievous sins and returning to God first, and then to the assembly.

if they continue in their sins, without repenting after the appropriate warnings, do not even greet them in the marketplace, nor have a meal with them, nor visit with them, lest you become befouled by their sins. it is written, it is God's Decree.

QUOTE=passinthru;1843228]So you are saying that if someone doe snot believe as you do they are wrong and you, rather than discussing the differences, You just ignore them. I am certainly glad that the God I serve has never ignored me and all my shortcomings. Okay go ahead and ignore me too.

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You are promoting bad ideology and close to stepping on a pedestal that is very wrong. You should consider rethinking what you wrote.

 

[Zifnab21]

You are promoting bad ideology and close to stepping on a pedestal that is very wrong. You should consider rethinking what you wrote.[/QUOTE]

...as you are not the interpreter of scriptures

 

[passinthru]

I don't have a problem with labeling theology and actions and should have used Protestantism instead. I accept Jesus as the only savior.

I accept Jesus as my only saviour also. So we are both in the family of God. Agree?

 

[ThomistColin]

as it is written in Scripture, and as per the site's directives/instructions/ guidelines I have read: catholics are 'welcome' here if they come to learn. but if they promote any rcc catholicism, they are banned.

Leave that to the mods. They are well versed in the difference between answering a question, defending yourself, and proselytizing.

 

[Zifnab21]

I accept Jesus as my only saviour also. So we are both in the family of God. Agree?

Being in the same family doesn't reflect correctness.

 

[drjshow]

It took me a great deal of time, over several days, to read all of this thread. It makes me very sad. Such harsh language against each other. I am not Catholic. But one poster hit it on the head. There are "good Catholics" who are bad Christians, just as there are "good Evangelicals" who are bad Christians. When your doctrine becomes more important to you that your love and respect for the image of God reflected in the person across from you, you're simply doing it wrong. Many, it seems, have so internalized their salvation that it has become a possession to be guarded and protected, rather than gift to be shared in love and mercy. The interesting thing is that I read many Protestant declarations of protest over Catholic adherence to church doctrine instead of the teachings of Christ...then in the same post, there are staunch declarations of adherence to Protestant doctrine. Where is the mutual love, mercy, and respect due to a fellow believer...even if there are doctrinal disagreements. Faith in Christ is the ONLY way to salvation. That is clear. These doctrinal arguments belittle the entire Christian faith. My church has doctrine, and if you attend one, so does yours. I'm O.K. with that, kept in perspective. Many in this thread have lost theirs. Every church, Protestant, Catholic, Non-denominational, has doctrine. But doctrine doesn't save. Doctrine doesn't heal. Doctrine doesn't put you in the presence of God.

 

[passinthru]

Originally Posted by passinthru

I accept Jesus as my only saviour also. So we are both in the family of God. Agree?

Being in the same family doesn't reflect correctness.

Now THAT statement is true and it can work both ways.


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