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Yahchanan (John) 4:25-26, "The woman said to Him; I know that the Messiah comes, and when He comes, He will tell us all things. Yahshua said to her: I am He speaking to you."
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"
"listen" is word #8085 שָׁמַע shama` {shaw-mah'}
Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"
"listen" is word #8085 שָׁמַע shama` {shaw-mah'}
Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey
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Just a quick reply as its getting late here in Australia.
God's will is that we believe on Jesus, John 6:40.
And who are those who work iniquity?
It's the legalists (unbelievers) under the law, as whatever the law says it says to those under it, Rom 3:19.
And as legalists fail to obey the law perfectly they are thus guilty of ALL the law, James 2:10. They are workers of iniquity, guilty of violating ALL of it.
I never said the law has already passed away.
I said that Christians are not under the law for righteousness. As a means for us to attain righteousness under the law, that method of righteousness by works is done away with. Instead it's our faith that is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Legalists, however, will be judged by the law and they will be found guilty of ALL of it.
Read the rest of that scripture.
That young man kept the law yet found he STILL LACKED.
Jesus told him that if he wanted to be perfect (which we have when we believe on Jesus, Heb 10:14), to follow him.
Which Christians do.
We believe on Jesus and love one another, 1John 3:23.
God's will is that we believe on Jesus, John 6:40.
And who are those who work iniquity?
It's the legalists (unbelievers) under the law, as whatever the law says it says to those under it, Rom 3:19.
And as legalists fail to obey the law perfectly they are thus guilty of ALL the law, James 2:10. They are workers of iniquity, guilty of violating ALL of it.
I never said the law has already passed away.
I said that Christians are not under the law for righteousness. As a means for us to attain righteousness under the law, that method of righteousness by works is done away with. Instead it's our faith that is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Legalists, however, will be judged by the law and they will be found guilty of ALL of it.
Read the rest of that scripture.
That young man kept the law yet found he STILL LACKED.
Jesus told him that if he wanted to be perfect (which we have when we believe on Jesus, Heb 10:14), to follow him.
Which Christians do.
We believe on Jesus and love one another, 1John 3:23.
Im soryy to have to say this but you are out there, Evey verse it seems you filter through anti-nomianisim...
You continually oversimplify and only look at verse that you can vaguely follow.
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day." (hear and obey, not hear and reject)
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"
James 2:
8If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. 9But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11For He who said, “DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,” also said, “DO NOT COMMIT MURDER.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. 13For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
I know I know your definition is the opposite of Strong's, I know you say iniquity is seeking obedience to His Law.....
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
least?
"Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
Most assume the the man asking was not actually keeping. assume... I probably agree with that, but does the Messiah lie?
Because He said, "so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh." Is that a lie?
Mattithyah 19:17-21, "But He said to him: Why do you question Me about righteousness? There is only One Who is the standard of perfection, and that is Yahweh; so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh. He then asked Yahshua; Which ones? Yahshua said: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false testimony. Honor your father and mother, and; You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The young man said to Him; All these things I have kept from my youth up; what do I yet lack? Yahshua said to him: If you want to come to the perfection of Yahweh, go and sell of what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and you will be walking in Yahweh's ways, and following Me."
"so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh." Is that a lie?
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
You continually oversimplify and only look at verse that you can vaguely follow.
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day." (hear and obey, not hear and reject)
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"
James 2:
8If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. 9But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11For He who said, “DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,” also said, “DO NOT COMMIT MURDER.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. 13For judgment will be merciless to one who has shown no mercy; mercy triumphs over judgment."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Romans 2:12, “For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.”
James 2:12, So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty."
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
I know I know your definition is the opposite of Strong's, I know you say iniquity is seeking obedience to His Law.....
Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."
least?
"Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
Most assume the the man asking was not actually keeping. assume... I probably agree with that, but does the Messiah lie?
Because He said, "so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh." Is that a lie?
Mattithyah 19:17-21, "But He said to him: Why do you question Me about righteousness? There is only One Who is the standard of perfection, and that is Yahweh; so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh. He then asked Yahshua; Which ones? Yahshua said: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false testimony. Honor your father and mother, and; You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The young man said to Him; All these things I have kept from my youth up; what do I yet lack? Yahshua said to him: If you want to come to the perfection of Yahweh, go and sell of what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and you will be walking in Yahweh's ways, and following Me."
"so if you would enter into life, keep the Laws of Yahweh." Is that a lie?
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
M
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
No one who "claims" to keep the law , keeps the law. In fact the law produces all manner of evil desires in them and they are in effect slaves of sin. The reason they cannot understand the divine nature of God that works in us who really believe is because they themselves are consumed by their own lust and cannot imagine that others are not like them.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
No one who "claims" to keep the law , keeps the law. In fact the law produces all manner of evil desires in them and they are in effect slaves of sin. The reason they cannot understand the divine nature of God that works in us who really believe is because they themselves are consumed by their own lust and cannot imagine that others are not like them.
K
No it is you two and a few others like you that say it is impossible to keep them that put limitations on God.
Not us who let the Holy Spirit guide us to keep them, and help us to get stronger in areas that we are weak in. As a born again believer we are molded in to that perfection.
Plus who says I do not keep them, and break them continuously. That is your understanding, not mine as I do keep them with the Holy Spirit guiding me.
Remember I listed all 10 Commandments a few days ago, and showed in that the one's I keep and the two that I struggled with that the Holy Spirit has strengthen me in. Those two was adultery, and covetousness, but thanks be to God I know longer struggle with adultery and I am content with what I have. The Holy Spirit has done that in my life.
If you believe you break one or more of the 10 Commandments every single day or week then I think you need to ask for the Holy Spirit to strengthen you in those areas you are weak. That is what He is here for !!!
K
The thief on the cross repented by showing sorrow for what he did, and saying he was deserving of his punishment but the Lord was not. The thief then asked for forgiveness by saying to Him to remember him when He went into His kingdom.
The thief was not an example of mere belief, nor was he an example of those under the new covenant as it was not put in place tell after the Lords death.
The other thing you must remember to is that even Paul says just because you see these other cases like the thief, and Peter who denied Him three times. We are not to use those as examples to not do what the Lord commanded. For God has mercy on how He will have mercy on.
We who have the time to live out His teachings, if we don't do it then that is called a disobedient servant or illegitimate...
Then Jesus made it clear that everything He said came from the Father, which would mean it is God's will to live out in our lives everything He said.
I don't reject God's will, those who say they do not have to follow the 10 Commandments are not living in His will.
Believe on Jesus, and love one another was not the only two commands that Jesus gave. You two need to realize everything that He said was a command for us. And believing on Him is not just a mere belief of hear only.........
Luke 6:46-49
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
The thief was not an example of mere belief, nor was he an example of those under the new covenant as it was not put in place tell after the Lords death.
The other thing you must remember to is that even Paul says just because you see these other cases like the thief, and Peter who denied Him three times. We are not to use those as examples to not do what the Lord commanded. For God has mercy on how He will have mercy on.
We who have the time to live out His teachings, if we don't do it then that is called a disobedient servant or illegitimate...
Then Jesus made it clear that everything He said came from the Father, which would mean it is God's will to live out in our lives everything He said.
I don't reject God's will, those who say they do not have to follow the 10 Commandments are not living in His will.
Believe on Jesus, and love one another was not the only two commands that Jesus gave. You two need to realize everything that He said was a command for us. And believing on Him is not just a mere belief of hear only.........
Luke 6:46-49
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
K
Ephesians 5 gives us from Paul a big part of what the will of God is for our lives, lets take a look;
[h=1]Ephesians 5 [/h][h=3]Walk in Love[/h]5 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.
[h=3]Walk in Light[/h]8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit[b] is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says:
“Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.”
[h=3]Walk in Wisdom[/h]15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.[c]
[h=3]Marriage—Christ and the Church[/h]22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,[d] of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[e] 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband
We as members of the church are to present ourselves without spot or blemish in our walk, how is that possible to keep doing that if we are already without spot or blemish from day one of belief. That is because sins can still if you do not abstain from them can still blemish you, or make you impure if not confessed for forgiveness. This is just one place where Paul is talking about the will of God that is to be part of our lives, and if you notice he says to abstain from sins; listing fornication, uncleanness, and covetousness here. Showing future sins are not automatically forgiven in a believers life.
[h=1]Ephesians 5 [/h][h=3]Walk in Love[/h]5 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.
[h=3]Walk in Light[/h]8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit[b] is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says:
“Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.”
[h=3]Walk in Wisdom[/h]15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.[c]
[h=3]Marriage—Christ and the Church[/h]22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,[d] of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[e] 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband
We as members of the church are to present ourselves without spot or blemish in our walk, how is that possible to keep doing that if we are already without spot or blemish from day one of belief. That is because sins can still if you do not abstain from them can still blemish you, or make you impure if not confessed for forgiveness. This is just one place where Paul is talking about the will of God that is to be part of our lives, and if you notice he says to abstain from sins; listing fornication, uncleanness, and covetousness here. Showing future sins are not automatically forgiven in a believers life.
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
Revelation 12
13And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
14But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle so that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.
15The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood.
16But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth.
17Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus..."
Revelation 12
13And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.
14But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle so that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.
15The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood.
16But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth.
17Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus..."
gross misquote of scripture...to your own detriment..
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
the devil is not looking to accuse you...he is looking to devour you...you are giving a false sense of security..The law was not nailed at the cross....it was the ordinances...
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
the devil is not looking to accuse you...he is looking to devour you...you are giving a false sense of security..The law was not nailed at the cross....it was the ordinances...
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
K
Yes sin does not have dominion over us, because through repentance and then confession our transgressions are covered by His precious blood. And the Holy Spirit was sent here to help keep us from falling back to willful sin.
Would you please read all of Romans, as Paul says just because we are under grace does not mean we can and will not still sin. The difference is we do not let sin control us again, because we have an advocate in the Lord Jesus Christ. That when we do sin again if we confess that sin, He will cleanse us from that unrighteousness.
James here is talking to believers about sin
James 1:15
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
He tells them that if they let lust arise in them again and let it take back control of their life, then that sin will lead them to death.
The only way the sin can be covered and cleansed is through repentance and confession............