The Law of Jesus Christ
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The law of the Spirit of Faith.
Do you know it?
Do you know it?
K
If you obey any of them at all you are doing good. Keep it up.
I had rather be around someone who is trying to obey
the commandments than someone who is not.
I had rather be around someone who is trying to obey
the commandments than someone who is not.
L
If you obey any of them at all you are doing good. Keep it up.
I had rather be around someone who is trying to obey
the commandments than someone who is not.
I had rather be around someone who is trying to obey
the commandments than someone who is not.
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Notice this text says we are saved by grace through faith for good works. Yes we need faith, but it goes further than just justification, it is also for sanctification.
If you cannot walk your talk then it is better for you to not talk.
i hope this is truthful and honest enough, for you to lower down your 'hammer' Jack?
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
Jesus command is to "love God, love others. All the Old Testament law hangs on those two commands.
Grace and Truth witnesses, isn't the Law of CHRIST, written in the Gospels, sums up to these 'Two Commandments'?
Isn't the Old was given by Moses?
Isn't the New was given by JESUS?
Moses gave the Old Covenant at the mount, after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of Egypt, by performing 'miracles. Since they were given by Moses, it was called the 'Law of Moses'.
JESUS gave the New Covenant, also at the mount (called sermon on the mount), after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of sin and death, by also performing 'miracles'. Since they were given by JESUS, it is called the 'Law of _______'?
The 'Law of CHRIST' given and written in the New Covenant, are 'practices' called upon every believer. For these are the 'righteous spiritual practices' for all believers, that the 'righteous requirement' of GOD's Law from the beginning, can be 'fulfilled in a 'freed' spirit-man, born of the HOLY SPIRIT and not at all in a 'bound' carnal-man, born of the 'flesh'.
You tell me what will the law do for you besides condemn you to hell?
You truly need JESUS as your physician, who can heal you from your 'blasphemy'.
How can a believer who believe in JESUS be 'set free' according to the Gospel?
Please, be wise and only answer to this question and any other will be considered as from 'goats' in the church among lambs and sheep.
Then again, please do not get me wrong or being rude, but this is only to proof through the Law of CHRIST, one is truly 'set free' or not.
Please allow the Holy Bible to justify and not man's bragging in 'vain' mouths.
As it is written to the Thessalonians that;
"God will send a 'strong delusion' to those who have not welcome the Gospel."
Christian who claim to be Christian who cannot answer this question, are going to receive that 'strong delusion' on that day, one day. If any one say they will not live, to see that day, will be accountable for those who they 'mentor', might live to see that day.
Please, be wise and only answer to this question and any other will be considered as from 'goats' in the church among lambs and sheep.
Then again, please do not get me wrong or being rude, but this is only to proof through the Law of CHRIST, one is truly 'set free' or not.
Please allow the Holy Bible to justify and not man's bragging in 'vain' mouths.
As it is written to the Thessalonians that;
"God will send a 'strong delusion' to those who have not welcome the Gospel."
Christian who claim to be Christian who cannot answer this question, are going to receive that 'strong delusion' on that day, one day. If any one say they will not live, to see that day, will be accountable for those who they 'mentor', might live to see that day.
J
Then what about the New Testament?
Grace and Truth witnesses, isn't the Law of CHRIST, written in the Gospels, sums up to these 'Two Commandments'?
Isn't the Old was given by Moses?
Isn't the New was given by JESUS?
Moses gave the Old Covenant at the mount, after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of Egypt, by performing 'miracles. Since they were given by Moses, it was called the 'Law of Moses'.
JESUS gave the New Covenant, also at the mount (called sermon on the mount), after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of sin and death, by also performing 'miracles'. Since they were given by JESUS, it is called the 'Law of _______'?
The 'Law of CHRIST' given and written in the New Covenant, are 'practices' called upon every believer. For these are the 'righteous spiritual practices' for all believers, that the 'righteous requirement' of GOD's Law from the beginning, can be 'fulfilled in a 'freed' spirit-man, born of the HOLY SPIRIT and not at all in a 'bound' carnal-man, born of the 'flesh'.
Grace and Truth witnesses, isn't the Law of CHRIST, written in the Gospels, sums up to these 'Two Commandments'?
Isn't the Old was given by Moses?
Isn't the New was given by JESUS?
Moses gave the Old Covenant at the mount, after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of Egypt, by performing 'miracles. Since they were given by Moses, it was called the 'Law of Moses'.
JESUS gave the New Covenant, also at the mount (called sermon on the mount), after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of sin and death, by also performing 'miracles'. Since they were given by JESUS, it is called the 'Law of _______'?
The 'Law of CHRIST' given and written in the New Covenant, are 'practices' called upon every believer. For these are the 'righteous spiritual practices' for all believers, that the 'righteous requirement' of GOD's Law from the beginning, can be 'fulfilled in a 'freed' spirit-man, born of the HOLY SPIRIT and not at all in a 'bound' carnal-man, born of the 'flesh'.
Anyhow, there certainly are a lot of parallels between what the children of Israel experienced and Christ's Own experiences and I fully believe that Christ's sermon on the mount parallels the giving of the law to the Israelites on Mt. Sinai. In fact, I was just discussing the same with my eldest child about a week or two ago. As much as many professing Christians today seem to hate Christ's commandments (that comment is based upon 26+ years of personal observation, including what I've observed on this forum), Christ didn't really dismiss many of the commandments given by Moses (some were given for the hardness of the hearts of the people with whom Moses was dealing and therefore dismissed by Christ and some were "types" which have since been fulfilled in Christ), but rather He explained how He expected them to be kept by Christians via the power of the indwelling Spirit of God (none of us can obey God in our own strength alone) and how said keeping of commandments would be as much inward as outward. For example, Christ said:
Matthew chapter 5
[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
[23] Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
[24] Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
[25] Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
[26] Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Whereas Christ began by WARNING AGAINST "breaking one of these least commandments and teaching men so", nowadays, professing Christian after professing Christian WARN AGAINST "KEEPING ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS AND TEACHING MEN SO". It's scary...it really, really is. Anyhow, when Christ said, "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill", He was referring His hearers back to the law of Moses:
"Thou shalt not kill." (Exodus 20:13 & Deuteronomy 5:17)
The word translated here as "kill" would better be translated as "murder". Under the law of Moses, a man/woman was considered to be a murderer AFTER they had committed THE OUTWARD ACT of taking another person's life, BUT Jesus said that such is not the case under the New Covenant or under the New Testament. No, when Jesus said, "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE COUNCIL: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, SHALL BE IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE", He changed the focus of SIN from THE OUTWARD ACT to THE INWARD CONDITION OF ONE'S HEART. Yes, under the New Covenant or under the New Testament, one simply needs to have ANGER IN HIS/HER HEART TOWARDS ANOTHER WITHOUT JUST CAUSE or to SPEAK EVIL OF HIS BROTHER to be considered a "murderer". John addressed this very same TRUTH in his first epistle when he wrote:
I John chapter 3
[14] We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
[15] Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Despite these stern and fearful warnings from John (and others) and from Christ Himself, professing Christian after professing Christian after professing Christian seeks to inform us:
"Hey, don't worry and don't be misled by LEGALISTIC, HOLIER THAN THOU, MEAN SPIRITED PHARISEES...it's all under the blood! Yeah, when Christ died He paid for all of your sins...past, present and future!"
You not only all know what I'm talking about, but I just perfectly described several people RIGHT HERE ON THIS FORUM. Yes, whereas CHRIST warned of "BEING IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT", "BEING IN DANGER OF THE COUNCIL", "BEING IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE" and "BEING CAST INTO PRISON", many today who allegedly "come in His Name" tell us that there's nothing to worry about. Again, it's scary...it really, really is.
Anyhow, the same pattern continues throughout Christ's sermon on the mount in that He continues to contrast THE OUTWARD SINS which were committed under the law of Moses with THE INWARD SINS which shall be committed under the law of Christ or under the New Covenant or the New Testament. I'll not bother to document the same in this post, but anybody who wants to can just read the remainder of Christ's sermon on the mount for themselves.
Further still, I see another parallel between the blessings AND the cursings which were to be proclaimed upon mountains...
"And it shall come to pass, when the LORD thy God hath brought thee in unto the land whither thou goest to possess it, that thou shalt put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal." (Deuteronomy 11:29)
...and the blessings AND the woes which Christ Himself proclaimed during His Own sermon on the mount. Yes, if we equally consider Luke's account of the same as recorded in his gospel, then we'll not only hear Christ's pronouncements pertaining to the blessings which we're all so familiar with from Matthew chapter 5, but we'll also hear THE WOES OR CURSES which Christ pronounced as well. We read:
Luke chapter 6
[20] And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
[21] Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
[22] Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
[23] Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
[24] But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
[25] Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
[26] Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
How many of CHRIST'S "WOES!" are regularly preached today as "blessings" (just turn on your TV and listen to anyone of a number of charlatans...and they're not limited to TV in that many of them are standing behind pulpits) and how many Godly saints are regularly criticized when their heartsets and lifestyles match those of CHRIST'S "BLESSINGS"?
Again, it's scary...it really, really is.
V
There is not a just man upon the earth that does good and sins NOT!
There are, as true faithful servants of CHRIST in the SPIRIT/spirit upon the earth. But GOD made them to be far away from 'hypocrites'. For HE do not want them to see and strive with 'carnal corruption'.
Romans 3, NASB
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Don't try to explain that this is only the lost of which Paul quotes the Psalmist and Isaiah. This is all mankind. We have no righteousness of our own in Christ, but it is His righteousness that God sees when He looks upon us in the church. No one is sinless.
No one is righteous in his own right. Only by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection are we made righteous and given eternal life. We do nothing to achieve salvation, we do nothing to "maintain" salvation, we cannot lose salvation. Keeping us in Him is all and entirely the work of Christ.
S
Then what about the New Testament?
Grace and Truth witnesses, isn't the Law of CHRIST, written in the Gospels, sums up to these 'Two Commandments'?
Isn't the Old was given by Moses?
Isn't the New was given by JESUS?
Moses gave the Old Covenant at the mount, after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of Egypt, by performing 'miracles. Since they were given by Moses, it was called the 'Law of Moses'.
JESUS gave the New Covenant, also at the mount (called sermon on the mount), after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of sin and death, by also performing 'miracles'. Since they were given by JESUS, it is called the 'Law of _______'?
The 'Law of CHRIST' given and written in the New Covenant, are 'practices' called upon every believer. For these are the 'righteous spiritual practices' for all believers, that the 'righteous requirement' of GOD's Law from the beginning, can be 'fulfilled in a 'freed' spirit-man, born of the HOLY SPIRIT and not at all in a 'bound' carnal-man, born of the 'flesh'.
Grace and Truth witnesses, isn't the Law of CHRIST, written in the Gospels, sums up to these 'Two Commandments'?
Isn't the Old was given by Moses?
Isn't the New was given by JESUS?
Moses gave the Old Covenant at the mount, after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of Egypt, by performing 'miracles. Since they were given by Moses, it was called the 'Law of Moses'.
JESUS gave the New Covenant, also at the mount (called sermon on the mount), after redeeming GOD's people from the bondage of sin and death, by also performing 'miracles'. Since they were given by JESUS, it is called the 'Law of _______'?
The 'Law of CHRIST' given and written in the New Covenant, are 'practices' called upon every believer. For these are the 'righteous spiritual practices' for all believers, that the 'righteous requirement' of GOD's Law from the beginning, can be 'fulfilled in a 'freed' spirit-man, born of the HOLY SPIRIT and not at all in a 'bound' carnal-man, born of the 'flesh'.
J
Deal with this:Romans 3, NASB
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Don't try to explain that this is only the lost of which Paul quotes the Psalmist and Isaiah. This is all mankind. We have no righteousness of our own in Christ, but it is His righteousness that God sees when He looks upon us in the church. No one is sinless.
No one is righteous in his own right. Only by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection are we made righteous and given eternal life. We do nothing to achieve salvation, we do nothing to "maintain" salvation, we cannot lose salvation. Keeping us in Him is all and entirely the work of Christ.
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Don't try to explain that this is only the lost of which Paul quotes the Psalmist and Isaiah. This is all mankind. We have no righteousness of our own in Christ, but it is His righteousness that God sees when He looks upon us in the church. No one is sinless.
No one is righteous in his own right. Only by the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection are we made righteous and given eternal life. We do nothing to achieve salvation, we do nothing to "maintain" salvation, we cannot lose salvation. Keeping us in Him is all and entirely the work of Christ.
No offense, but you'd better deal with the above. Quite frankly, you sound just like one of the aforementioned deceivers.
That just made it even worse for you.
Elin said:
Time for your meds.
Is Jesus divine, one of the three persons of the one God?
Did Jesus' sacrificial death propitiate for the sin of those who believe in him?
Does faith in Jesus' propitiation give one a guiltless, rightwise standing before God?
Does the obedience of faith by the power of Holy Spirit sanctify and transform one into the image of Christ?
Does God forgive the confessed sin of the born again, his children?
Does seeking righteousness according to the law condemn or make righteous?
Give an account of thyself.
Ephesians 2:8-10
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Notice this text says we are saved by grace through faith for good works. Yes we need faith, but it goes further than just justification, it is also for sanctification.
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.
(10) For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Notice this text says we are saved by grace through faith for good works. Yes we need faith, but it goes further than just justification, it is also for sanctification.
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
What is the order of events for Israel?
They were delivered from Egypt. The major event in their deliverance? The Passover.
They received forgiveness and a new start first, then they were given the Law, the rules to live this life by.
You tell me what will the law do for you besides condemn you to hell?
Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
The Law converts a person and makes the simple wise.
Psa 19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
The Law rejoices the heart and enlightens the eyes.
Psa 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
Psa 19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
Psa 19:11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
They warn one and keep him from disaster. When kept, they bring GREAT REWARD.
Psa 19:12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
Psa 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Here we see that it is an aid to discovering errors and faults we do not see as well as obvious sins.
Psa 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.
Psa 37:31 The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
The Law prevents us from slipping.
Psa 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
The Law is God's will.
Psa 94:12 Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD, and teachest him out of thy law;
Being taught the Law brings blessings.
Psa 119:1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
Those who walk in the Law are blessed and undefiled.
Psa 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.
The Law reveals wondrous things to us.
Psa 119:29 Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously.
Psa 119:34 Give me understanding, and I shall keep thy law; yea, I shall observe it with my whole heart.
Psa 119:53 Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.
Psa 119:72 The law of thy mouth is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver.
Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
Psa 119:165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
There are 593,493 words in the Old Testament and 181,253 in the New Testament giving 774,746 words.
Approximately 77 percent of the Bible is the Old Testament. You should try reading it once in a while.