any real Christians who despise ungodly music like rock, country, rap, CCM?

[SaintJoeNow]

It's a shame so few who claim to be bought and paid for by the blood of the Son of God have the backbone to stand up and say wrong is wrong. Ungodly music is wrong. Rock, country, jazz, raegae, hiphop, rap, whatever...all glorifies sin, all worldly, and shamefully for most Christians they have compromised in order to get along with the world who hates Christians just as Jesus said they would. They hated Him and they will hate us if we follow Him. Anybody who claims to be a Christian but is getting no flack over it from friends, family, or people in the community....I have to wonder why; could it be they are not really living godly lives? If any will live godly in Christ Jesus, they will suffer persecution....."that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his suffereings, being made conformable unto his death:, if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may be apprehended that for which I also am apprehended of Christ Jesus......forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you"

If you are not thus minded with me when it comes to holiness in all areas of our personal lives, you will only want to argue with me and I"m not interested.

 

[p_rehbein]

Alternatively, we could post a thread that calls ungodly those people who accuse other people of being ungodly because of their taste in music while simultaneously refusing to listen or engage them when they respond to the accusation. In that thread, we could refuse to listen or engage with the people we are calling ungodly.

But do you think that might be ungodly?

.......well, maybe not if you are talking to them telling them that you are not talking to them while talking to them about not talking to them.......

 

[p_rehbein]

It's a shame so few who claim to be bought and paid for by the blood of the Son of God have the backbone to stand up and say wrong is wrong. Ungodly music is wrong. Rock, country, jazz, raegae, hiphop, rap, whatever...all glorifies sin, all worldly, and shamefully for most Christians they have compromised in order to get along with the world who hates Christians just as Jesus said they would. They hated Him and they will hate us if we follow Him. Anybody who claims to be a Christian but is getting no flack over it from friends, family, or people in the community....I have to wonder why. If any will live godly in Christ Jesus, they will suffer persecution....."that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his suffereings, being made conformable unto his death:, if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may be apprehended that for which I also am apprehended of Christ Jesus......forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you"

If you are not thus minded with me when it comes to holiness in all areas of our personal lives, you will only want to argue with me and I"m not interested.

Comment in general? I know you aren't talking to us are you? What you don't seem to realize is that you went about your OP the completely wrong way............oh well........live and learn........

 

[Nick01]

p_rehbein, I feel like the OP's issue is more style of music than content (given the OP specifically calls out CCM, which I don't really listen to either, but for different reasons). I suspect the OP enjoys older music, anything at least pre 50s-40s, most likely old hymns 18th century or older. Which is fine, and would be fine if that was what the OP wanted to discuss.

But the antagonistic nature of the subject line and OP would seem to me they're more interested in gathering ammunition to throw at other genres, rather than simply discussing the (many) merits of traditional sacred music on its own terms. Perhaps I'm being uncharitable. Willing to be corrected, if so.

Really, the main problem is the way it characterises the problem as a moral/theological one rather than one of personal opinion. Any other framing of the OP would be preferable.

 

[p_rehbein]

Ok Joe..........just to let you know, I won't be talking to you any more tonight.........mainly because I am about to take a well deserved comatose like nap for about 7 hours...........Some call it a night's sleep, but, since I don't believe there is any holiness in night/dark........I refuse to call it that.......hmmm, maybe I could start a thread tomorrow titled..........nah, never mind.

 

[p_rehbein]

p_rehbein, I feel like the OP's issue is more style of music than content (given the OP specifically calls out CCM, which I don't really listen to either, but for different reasons). I suspect the OP enjoys older music, anything at least pre 50s-40s, most likely old hymns 18th century or older. Which is fine, and would be fine if that was what the OP wanted to discuss.

But the antagonistic nature of the subject line and OP would seem to me they're more interested in gathering ammunition to throw at other genres, rather than simply discussing the (many) merits of traditional sacred music on its own terms. Perhaps I'm being uncharitable. Willing to be corrected, if so.

Really, the main problem is the way it characterises the problem as a moral/theological one rather than one of personal opinion. Any other framing of the OP would be preferable.

Good thoughts Nick............anyway.............it's is way past my bedtime..........y'all have a great night/day, whatever it is where y'all are............God bless

 

[SaintJoeNow]

The title adn the OP is a search for Christians like myself who despise ungodly music. I won't talk to people who are hostile to or antagonistic to the title, the OP, or myself. I might preach at them, because I know what they are going to say before they say it and I know what the Bible says about holiness in all areas including our music which the NT repeatedly says should be speaking to ourselves and each other in psalms, and hymns, and spiritual songs with all doctrine..not airheaded phony spirituality of worldly CCM where they love the money and fame and could care less about Bible doctrine.

I wont talk to hostiles and antagonizers, but I might preach at them because they obviously are not getting good preaching whereever they are getting their preaching from...if they are getting any at all.

 

[Nick01]

.......well, maybe not if you are talking to them telling them that you are not talking to them while talking to them about not talking to them.......

So, if I definitely tell them I'm not talking to or about them, even though I kinda sorta am, that's ok, right?

Rock, country, jazz, raegae, hiphop, rap, whatever...all glorifies sin, all worldly, and shamefully for most Christians they have compromised in order to get along with the world who hates Christians just as Jesus said they would. They hated Him and they will hate us if we follow Him. Anybody who claims to be a Christian but is getting no flack over it from friends, family, or people in the community....I have to wonder why; could it be they are not really living godly lives?

SaintJoe, I fear you're confusing issues. Enjoying and playing other genres of music has nothing to do with making the world like you. As a Christian, when I have had some atheists argue with me about my faith, there are ZERO occasions where me going "Oh, but I like jazz music" has made them not continue to stream vitriol at me.

The world is going to hate you regardless of what music you like, if you are a Christian, because really the world is not hating on you, or the Christian things you do, or what political party you vote for, or listen to. The world will hate you because it hates Jesus, exactly as he said it would. Listening to TSwizz, The Police, Duke Ellington, or even, God forbid, 1D, is not going to save me from that.

 

[stabbo]

If you don't like the title of this thread or you show hostility or animosity toward the thread, the OP, or toward me, I'm not going to talk to you. Deal with it. The thread was created in hope of finding like-minded Christians in regard to holiness in all areas of our personal lives including the music we listen to and sing. If you are not one of those like minded people I was hoping to find, I'm not going to talk to you, I don't want to argue about the title of the thread or the OP. Deal with it.
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Joe, this is sick thinking, and I dont think I can say anything to change your mind. But these fundamental views you have about whats "holy" music are not healthy.

 

[stabbo]

Joe, this is sick thinking, and I dont think I can say anything to change your mind. But these fundamental views you have about whats "holy" music are not healthy.

And ill tell you another thing joe, when your sick thinking gets attacked and you dont know how to deal with it, it only makes you sicker.

 

[Nautilus]

We interrupt your regularly scheduled pentecostal holiness junk thread for this important 'ungodly' rock song

[video=youtube;RSDPShtGBWU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSDPShtGBWU[/video]

 

[posthuman]

I wont be reading antagonistic or complaining posts, just looking for christians to talk to who believe in holiness in their music always if they listen to or sing or play music

... but you will be making antagonistic & complaining threads?

OK then. ..

But let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy.
(Psalm 5:11)

as for me and my ears, we will rejoice over the Lord with singing, and that, unconstrained, in a language that our heart understands, with a loud noise and with shouting, as the scriptures have said is "good"

 

[posthuman]

I can tell at a glance if you are being antagonistic and I skip over it, ignore it. I really don't want to talk to people who are antagonistic to the title of this thread

please, have a "glance" at this:

Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.
(John 7:24)

Who are you to judge someone else's servant?
To their own master, servants stand or fall.
And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.
(Romans 14:4)

 

[posthuman]

(Christian mode on)

Any style of music can be holy if you devote your musical interest to serving God.

(Christian mode off)

why did you turn it off?

brother, turn it on, then hit the power button with a Rock.

 

[posthuman]

yes, worldly music also vexes me.

but i know of a truth that "rock, country, rap" are genres,
not descriptions of whether a song glorifies God or not.

 

[posthuman]

Deal with it.​

that, brother, is what i'm doing.

i think you should deal with the fact that the Bible does not speak about "styles" of music -- it speaks about content -- so if you are judging music, artists, and people who listen by the quality of sound, you are judging by mere appearances, and in fact the scripture is fulfilled in this thread already how that "you will be judged by the measure by which you judge" -- you yourself have been judged by mere appearance as a "troll" because you have come and judged so lightly.

the Word says i should restore you gently from your error. to "deal with it" -- that is what i should do.

i hate worldly music too.
however, "reggae, rock, rap, etc." is not "worldly" -- it's a descriptor of a musical style. the content of the lyrics and the message that a song has is what makes it worldly.


we can take a Psalm, and we can set it to many kinds of music -- the Psalm remains the Psalm. it does not become evil the moment we strum a guitar or shake a tambourine, any more than it becomes wicked by the quality of the voice of someone who sings it. do you not agree?

 

[MarcR]

In an effort to bring some sanity to this thread, I wanna rewrite the OP as I would have written it.........

TITLE: Anyone Here Who Only Likes Christian Music?

OP: I'm looking for Christians to talk to who only like Christian music.


(mayhaps the commentary that followed this OP would have been quite different? Dunno, mayhaps)

p_rehbein,

I like Christian music; but I can't answer to the 'only' part. I also like traditional folk music (which is also the foundation for many hymns); and classical. If that excludes me I'll leave .

 

[MarcR]

Perhaps I should leave anyway. I'm not single. I got here by liking a friends post from my profile; and didn't know where I was headed.

 

[stabbo]

why did you turn it off?

brother, turn it on, then hit the power button with a Rock.

I try not to damage things that work.

 

[hoss2576]

Perhaps I should leave anyway. I'm not single. I got here by liking a friends post from my profile; and didn't know where I was headed.

Don't worry, most in here don't bite.