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[KJV1611]

Actually, that refers to salvation there.

Nor is it not denied that faith is a gift (Php 1:29; 2Pe 1:1; Ac 18:27; Ro 12:3).


The word "in" is understood between "faith" and "Jesus Christ," making it "faith in Jesus Christ"
and faith in God.

Your choice of the words "the" and "of" produces a manifest Biblically absurd
the faith of Jesus Christ (Gal 2:16), the faith of God (Ro 3:25).

Nope. . .we are saved through faith. . .by grace.


Non-responsive.

You did not address the biblical absurdity of God's faith--in himself (Ro 3:25).

I think I understand your point of view now. I'm assuming that you believe that we have to "have faith" in Jesus to be saved. In other words salvation is initiated by us by "believing" in Jesus. I think that's basically what you said when you said this: "Nope. . .we are saved through faith. . .by grace." You've got that exactly backwards... read below. We are saved by grace through faith and not the other way around as you said.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 

[MrsRoseTreasure]

There is a member of CC that states the following....

To study the bible from the orginal languages is CARNAL
They seem to indicate that God also INSPIRED the BIBLE in German, English etc.

How many people here believe it is wrong to use the Hebrew and the Greek to glean a better understanding of the word of God?

How many people believe that to use the Greek and Hebrew to better understand the words being used is carnal and cause one to follow men?

God inspired the bible as orginally written in Hebrew and Greek and to say it is carnal to use both to glean a better understanding of the word is foolish at best!

What? That might be the stupidest thing I ever heard, and completely un-Biblical.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Psa 119:15-16 I will meditate in thy precepts, and have respect unto thy ways. I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.

Deu 6:4-9 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. ..."


2 Peter 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

Joshua 1:8 This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.


Besides scripture, how about some common sense. How could it ever be bad to learn something in the original language in which it was written?

I have a family member who will often say something incorrect or not accurate, and then will vehemently defend that position instead of admitting their wrong and repenting from it. It doesn't matter if you show them the proof of their inaccuracy, they simply cannot admit their wrong, and will even begin lying to substantiate their claim.

This person is walking in the flesh. I would not commune with them anymore. Just my $.02.

 

[DesiredHaven]

yeah, i know the Brady Bunch, did i just reveal my age? lol

^i^ Responding to Post #65

We are like the same age.

I come from a time when you had to actually get up and walk over to the TV and turn the dial (to change the channel)

We had like 3 6 and 10, 17, 29, 48

That was our channels, something like that.

Now we have 500 of them boggles the mind LOL!

 

[DesiredHaven]

What I was saying is that the word 'groovy' at least in its original usage referred to the groove below a woman's navel.

I was hoping to be more subtle about it.

LOL!!

Oh man I didnt know that!

I learn some very interesting things here at CC

 

[Reborn]

What I was saying is that the word 'groovy' refers to a specific part of the female anatomy.

How about the word Swell?
..............can I use that word?

 

[DesiredHaven]

How about the word Swell?
..............can I use that word?

Aint DAT SWELL LOL

 

[VioletReigns]

Linguistics has fascenated me since childhood and I really thought that the etymology of the word would be eye opening.

“Groovy” is known today as quintessential 1960’s counterculture slang meaning “excellent, great, very fashionable” (as in a groovy hairstyle or groovy music).

The emergence of “groovy” in the 1960’s was actually a reincarnation of the word, which first appeared in the jazz subculture of the 1930’s and was originally spelled “groovey” (“ ‘Groovey applied to the state of mind which is conducive to good playing,” American Speech, 1937). “Groovey” itself was based on the phrase “in the groove”, used by jazz musicians to describe playing that was smooth and effortlessly excellent.

“Groove” is, of course, a very old word, derived from a Germanic root meaning “pit”, the same root which gave us the English word “grave”. The original sense of “groove” was in fact “mining shaft or pit”, and it wasn’t until the 17th century that “groove” acquired its modern meaning of “channel or hollow cut in the surface of something.” By 1902, however, “groove” was being used to mean the spiral track on the surface of a phonograph record in which the needle rides. So when jazz musicians spoke of being “in the groove” while playing music, it meant that they felt or sounded as if they were producing the music as easily, fluently and flawlessly as a phonograph needle following the grooves on a record. Not that there was anything mechanical about their playing; to be truly “in the groove” is to lose oneself in the creative process, what some writers call being “in the flow.”

Of course, just like with every catch word or phrase under the sun, there are always those rebellious sort who try to turn every word into a filthy innuendo to appear sophisticated to the carnal world. Nevertheless, groovy was/is equivalent to: funky, awesome, cool, sweet, boss, hip, sick, hot, off the hook, mad, excellent, radical, bad, legit, ill, tight, dope, chill, fresh, real, epic, etc., etc.

 

[Angela53510]

And this is my point, you don't NEED the GREEK to PROVE Jesus is God. A person who believes Jesus is God because the Bible says He is God, is more righteous that a person who HAS to go to the Greek to PROVE that Jesus is God. i need no proof that He is God, nobody NEEDS to study the Hebrew and Greek to PROVE that He is God. He is God, because the Bible says He is God. PERIOD. No further proof needed. Why would someone seek this PROOF, unless they doubted to begin with.

Do you see the problem. Those who are spiritual, do not need proof nor do they go looking for the proof. Listen to your statement


Are we Christians not instructed to believe the Word of God on FAITH, not based on PROOF. The English Bible most assuredly teaches that Jesus is God, because it says "Jesus is God" IF i 100% believe the English Bible that says Jesus is God, then what more can i add to that 100% by studying the Greek? If i believe the English Bible and what it says, why would i need to study the GREEK to get the Proof? i already know it is the Truth, don't NEED the Greek to prove it.
Now if the lost, don't believe that Jesus is God, even though that is what the Bible teaches, then by all means show them, or the doubters, the Greek which proves that He is God. But here is the Truth, if they do not believe the Word of God which plainly teach He is God, they will not believe the Greek either.
Now am i saying it is not interesting? No, it is very interesting that the Greek PROVES Jesus is God, but that information is something i already knew to be True, via the English KJV Bible.

^i^ Responding to Post #73

As I started my post #73 talking about cults, not believers, I would think you could understand that I mean "prove it to cultists." You can prove cultist have wrongly translated the Bible, and have wrong doctrine. But then, you probably didn't read all of post #73 about Arianism (JW's etc) and Sabellianism.

Believers don't need proof, they just need a relationship with Jesus, and the Word of God.

 

[KJV1611]

Actually, this is precisely the point of studying the original languages. To counter the cults who really do twist Scripture, and make it say what it does not. Of course, all the translations from KJV to the Message all have the truth that Jesus Christ is God. And that God is a trinity embedded in each translation.

But how do you answer JW's who say Jesus is "A" god, or something lesser than the Father? Here is something I wrote, I pray you will take the time to read.

It IS IMPORTANT. Because the Greek PROVES Jesus is God, in a way the English can never do.

"In English, the order of the sentence generally determines the use of the noun. The subject usually comes first. However, in Greek, the word order is flexible, and is used for emphasis rather than for strict grammatical functions. For example, if there are two nouns and one has the definite article, it is the subject.

Word order is also employed for the sake of emphasis. Generally, if a word is thrown to the front of a clause or sentence, it is done so for emphasis. When the predicate nominative is thrown in front of the verb, by virtue of word order it takes on emphasis.

A good illustration of this is John 1:1c. English versions usually say, “and the Word was God.” But in Greek, the word order is reversed.

Καί θεός ήν ό λόγος or (Kai theos en ho logos)
And God was the Word

We know that “the Word” is the subject, because it has the definite article and is in the nominative case and we translate it accordingly “and the Word was God.”

Two questions, both of theological importance, come to mind
1. Why was θεός (theos or God) thrown forward?
2. Why does it lack the article?

The emphatic position of θεός (theos) stresses its essence of quality” “What God was, the Word was” is how one translation brings out this force. Its lack of a definition article keeps us from identifying the Person of the Word (Jesus Christ) with the person of “God” (the Father).

That means that the word order tells us that Jesus Christ has all the divine attributes that the Father has: lack of the article tells us the Jesus Christ is not the Father.

John’s wording here is beautifully compact! It is in fact, one of the most elegantly terse theological statements one could ever find. As Martin Luther said, the lack of an article is against Sabellianism; the word order is against Arianism

To state this another way, let’s look at how the different Greek constructions would be rendered:

1. καί ό λόγος ήν ό θεός
“and the Word was the God” Sabellianism*
2. καί ό λόγος ήν θεός
“and the Word was a god” Arianism+
3. καί θεός ήν ό ΄λόγος
“and the Word was God” Orthodoxy

Mounce William D., Basics of Biblical Greek: Grammar

*Sabellianism, (also known as modalism, modalistic monarchianism, or modal monarchism) is the nontrinitarian belief that the Heavenly Father, Resurrected Son and Holy Spirit are different modes or aspects of one monadic God, as perceived by the believer, rather than three distinct persons within the Godhead.
The term Sabellianism comes from Sabellius, a theologian and priest from the 3rd century. Modalism differs from Unitarianism by accepting the Christian doctrine that Jesus is fully God.

+ Arianism is the theological teaching attributed to Arius (ca. AD 250–336), a Christian presbyter in Alexandria, Egypt, concerning the relationship of God to the Son of God (Jesus of Nazareth). Arius asserted that the Son of God was a subordinate entity to God the Father.
Arianism is defined as those teachings attributed to Arius which are in opposition to mainstream Trinitarian Christological doctrine, as determined by the first two Ecumenical Councils and currently maintained by the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Oriental Orthodox Churches, the Assyrian Church of the East, all Reformation-founded Protestant churches (Lutheran, Reformed/Presbyterian, and Anglican), and a large majority of groups founded after the Reformation and calling themselves Protestant (such as Methodist, Baptist, most Pentecostals), with the exception of such groups as Oneness Pentecostals, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, Iglesia ni Cristo and Branhamism"

Hey Angela... nice to talk to you again, I hope you're doing well.

My first question would be where did you get "Kai theos en ho logos" from? The Greek the KJV was translated from doesn't say the same thing. The Greek from the KJV is as follows:

kai ho logos ane pros theos kai ho logos ane theos

Translated to say "the word was with God, and the word was God". The "originals" don't agree with one another. Which one is right, the version you posted from or the version I posted from?

 

[Jeff_56]

LOL!!

Oh man I didnt know that!

I learn some very interesting things here at CC

you didn't learn anything from the crude and inaccurate definition. and it probably shouldn't even be mentioned in the meeting of ekklesia anyway.

(unless online searching is being censored very much - )
mostly and in most places it's not true(maybe in some vulgar circles or bad sources it is),
search and see: (definitions from online search of origins and definitions >> )

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Groovy (or, less commonly, "Groovie" or "Groovey") is a slang colloquialism popular during the 1960s and 1970s. It is roughly synonymous with words such as "cool," "excellent," "fashionable," or "amazing," depending on context.

The word originated in the jazz culture of the 1920s, in which it referred to the "groove" of a piece of music (its rhythm and "feel"), plus the response felt by its listeners.[1] It can also reference the physical groove of a record in which the pick-up needle runs. Recorded use of the word in its slang context has been found dating back to September 30, 1941, on the Fibber McGee and Molly radio show, when band leader Billy Mills used it to describe his summer vacation. In the 1941 song “Let me off Uptown” by Gene Krupa, Anita O’Day invites Roy Eldridge to “… come here Roy and get groovy”. In the 1942 film Miss Annie Rooney features a teenage Shirley Temple using the term as she impresses Dickie Moore with her jitterbug moves and knowledge of jive. In the 1945 film A Thousand and One Nights, Phil Silvers uses the term to describe an ostentatiously bejeweled turban.

It has been found in print as early as 1946, in Really the Blues, the autobiography of jazz saxophonist Mezz Mezzrow.[2] The word appears in advertising spots for the 1947 film Miracle on 34th Street, and in the same year the phrase "Everything's groovy" was included on a 78 rpm recording of "Open The Door, Richard" sung by Walter Brown with Tiny Grimes Sextet.

Starting in the 1960s, variations of the word were used in the titles of many popular songs, including:

* "Movin' and Groovin'," a 1962 song by Sam Cooke.

The cover of the original 1965 release of the single "The Sound of Silence" (under its original title), backed with "We've Got a Groovey Thing Goin'."

* "A Groovy Kind of Love," a song written by Toni Wine and Carole Bayer Sager in 1964 and popularized a year later by The Mindbenders. Also recorded in 1988 by Phil Collins.
* "We've Got a Groovey Thing Goin'," the flip side of the 1965 hit single "The Sounds of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel
* "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)," a 1966 song also by Simon & Garfunkel
* "Somebody Groovy," a song from the 1966 debut album If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears by The Mamas & the Papas
* "Groovin'," a 1967 song by the Young Rascals
* "Workin' On a Groovy Thing", a 1968 song by Neil Sedaka
* "Groovy Grubworm," a 1969 song by Harlow Wilcox
* "Groovy Situation", a 1970 hit by Gene "The Duke of Earl" Chandler
* "Groovin' With Mr. Bloe," a 1970 hit by Mr. Bloe
* "Groovy Movies," a song by The Kinks released in 1973 on The Great Lost Kinks Album
* "Groovy Times," a 1979 song by The Clash

The term was also part of the title of a TV program called Groovy Show, which ran from 1967–1970. There was also an American TV cartoon show called Groovie Goolies, which ran from 1970–1972.

It later made its way into the titles of albums, such as Groovy Decay, a 1982 album by Robyn Hitchcock, and Groovy, Laidback and Nasty, a 1990 album by Cabaret Voltaire. Examples of band names include Groovy Aardvark from Canada, the The Groovy Little Numbers from Scotland, and Groovy Rednecks and the Flamin' Groovies from the USA.

By the early 1970s, the word was commonplace in American TV commercials aimed at young audiences, as exemplified by the slogan "Feeling groovy, just had my Cheerios."

E.B. White used the term in the novel The Trumpet of the Swan, which takes place in 1968 and was published in 1970, "'This is real groovy!' cried a boy in the front seat. 'That bird is as good as Louis Armstrong, the famous trumpet player.'"

Marvel Comics produced a Silver Age comic book entitled Groovy, subtitled "Cartoons, gags, jokes." Only three issues were published, dated March, May and July 1967.

An early ironic use of the term appears in the title of the 1974 film The Groove Tube, which satirized the American counterculture of the time. The term was later used jokingly in films such as Evil Dead II, Army of Darkness, and the Austin Powers films.

Is Duke Nukem's catch phrase.

The term in its original usage had largely vanished from everyday use by 1980.[3]
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[SaintJoeNow]

100% agree.

i hope nobody is thinking that i am condemning the study of Hebrew and Greek, i am not, i know first hand experience that when i was on milk, the study of Hebrew and Greek was good. But now that i am on meat, i realize that seeking the Truth via the study of Hebrew and Greek was actually hindering me. Because i was seeking the Truth on my own merit, through my own studies, through my own intelligence . i KNOW now there is a better way, and that is through the Holy Spirit of Truth. Hebrew and Greek and even the Bible itself, is but a middle man. Hebrew does not teach you Truth, Greek does not teach you Truth, and even the Bible does not teach you Truth, it is the HOLY SPIRIT that teaches you Truth, The Word of God is a means in which the Holy Spirit can teach you those Truths. And even though you can glean some Truths from the Hebrew and Greek, it is NOT a place to go to, to seek the Truth, in which the Holy Spirit of Truth can reveal to you through the Word of God.

^i^ Responding to Post #26

The Holy Spirit cannot contradict the Word of God, and if you don't know for sure that you have the Word of God in your own language without error, and you don't know for sure that the originals were copied without error and preserved the Word Of God perfectly and you are not fluent in that language, then how do you know it's the Holy Spirit and not your own feelings or some other spirit giving you guidance?

 

[SaintJoeNow]

I would like to see an example of Greek and Hebrew giving better understanding of scripture. To be honest, the only thing I see people use Greek and Hebrew for is too twist the meaning of scripture to make it line up with their beliefs.

This is sooooo true, and my favorite illustration of this is the difficulty of understanding Rom 8:24 which says "For we are saved by hope". The professors at my Bible college could not accept this as it is written because it made them wrestle with "by grace are ye saved through faith..." They always felt they had to change "saved by hope" to "saved through hope" or something like that. Being saved by hope and being saved through faith by grace are not contradictory. When we try to change the Word of God, we dillute it trying to shape it to our own feelings and beliefs rather than letting Him shape our thinking and putting our feelings in subjection to His Word. Changing His Word when we feel uncomfortable about it is a mistake....the mistake of all modern versions which are taken from corrupt manuscripts that were always rejected untill suddenly in modern times they are declared to be discoverd lost treasures.

 

[DesiredHaven]

you didn't learn anything from the crude and inaccurate definition. and it probably shouldn't even be mentioned in the meeting of ekklesia anyway.

(unless online searching is being censored very much - )
mostly and in most places it's not true(maybe in some vulgar circles or bad sources it is),
search and see: (definitions from online search of origins and definitions >> )

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Groovy (or, less commonly, "Groovie" or "Groovey") is a slang colloquialism popular during the 1960s and 1970s. It is roughly synonymous with words such as "cool," "excellent," "fashionable," or "amazing," depending on context.

The word originated in the jazz culture of the 1920s, in which it referred to the "groove" of a piece of music (its rhythm and "feel"), plus the response felt by its listeners.[1] It can also reference the physical groove of a record in which the pick-up needle runs. Recorded use of the word in its slang context has been found dating back to September 30, 1941, on the Fibber McGee and Molly radio show, when band leader Billy Mills used it to describe his summer vacation. In the 1941 song “Let me off Uptown” by Gene Krupa, Anita O’Day invites Roy Eldridge to “… come here Roy and get groovy”. In the 1942 film Miss Annie Rooney features a teenage Shirley Temple using the term as she impresses Dickie Moore with her jitterbug moves and knowledge of jive. In the 1945 film A Thousand and One Nights, Phil Silvers uses the term to describe an ostentatiously bejeweled turban.

It has been found in print as early as 1946, in Really the Blues, the autobiography of jazz saxophonist Mezz Mezzrow.[2] The word appears in advertising spots for the 1947 film Miracle on 34th Street, and in the same year the phrase "Everything's groovy" was included on a 78 rpm recording of "Open The Door, Richard" sung by Walter Brown with Tiny Grimes Sextet.

Starting in the 1960s, variations of the word were used in the titles of many popular songs, including:

* "Movin' and Groovin'," a 1962 song by Sam Cooke.

The cover of the original 1965 release of the single "The Sound of Silence" (under its original title), backed with "We've Got a Groovey Thing Goin'."

* "A Groovy Kind of Love," a song written by Toni Wine and Carole Bayer Sager in 1964 and popularized a year later by The Mindbenders. Also recorded in 1988 by Phil Collins.
* "We've Got a Groovey Thing Goin'," the flip side of the 1965 hit single "The Sounds of Silence" by Simon & Garfunkel
* "The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin' Groovy)," a 1966 song also by Simon & Garfunkel
* "Somebody Groovy," a song from the 1966 debut album If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears by The Mamas & the Papas
* "Groovin'," a 1967 song by the Young Rascals
* "Workin' On a Groovy Thing", a 1968 song by Neil Sedaka
* "Groovy Grubworm," a 1969 song by Harlow Wilcox
* "Groovy Situation", a 1970 hit by Gene "The Duke of Earl" Chandler
* "Groovin' With Mr. Bloe," a 1970 hit by Mr. Bloe
* "Groovy Movies," a song by The Kinks released in 1973 on The Great Lost Kinks Album
* "Groovy Times," a 1979 song by The Clash

The term was also part of the title of a TV program called Groovy Show, which ran from 1967–1970. There was also an American TV cartoon show called Groovie Goolies, which ran from 1970–1972.

It later made its way into the titles of albums, such as Groovy Decay, a 1982 album by Robyn Hitchcock, and Groovy, Laidback and Nasty, a 1990 album by Cabaret Voltaire. Examples of band names include Groovy Aardvark from Canada, the The Groovy Little Numbers from Scotland, and Groovy Rednecks and the Flamin' Groovies from the USA.

By the early 1970s, the word was commonplace in American TV commercials aimed at young audiences, as exemplified by the slogan "Feeling groovy, just had my Cheerios."

E.B. White used the term in the novel The Trumpet of the Swan, which takes place in 1968 and was published in 1970, "'This is real groovy!' cried a boy in the front seat. 'That bird is as good as Louis Armstrong, the famous trumpet player.'"

Marvel Comics produced a Silver Age comic book entitled Groovy, subtitled "Cartoons, gags, jokes." Only three issues were published, dated March, May and July 1967.

An early ironic use of the term appears in the title of the 1974 film The Groove Tube, which satirized the American counterculture of the time. The term was later used jokingly in films such as Evil Dead II, Army of Darkness, and the Austin Powers films.

Is Duke Nukem's catch phrase.

The term in its original usage had largely vanished from everyday use by 1980.[3]
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Can someone please tell me why I am on the hook for this word here? LOL

Why does Reborn get off the hook, for being the one who wrote it whereas the only thing I did was elbow back at him "groovy"?

I was being playful

But I get all of the follow up lectures on the word?

Okay, I get it you guys are experts in secular words from the 60's or 70's

I wasnt even paying attention to the word (in respects to my learning) but "to that" (because I dont care)

But we can all be quirky, and I allow for that,

but is all this really necessary?? LOL

 

[Reborn]

Can someone please tell me why I am on the hook for this word here? LOL

Why does Reborn get off the hook, for being the one who wrote it whereas the only thing I did was elbow back at him "groovy"?

I was being playful

But I get all of the follow up lectures on the word?

Okay, I get it you guys are experts in secular words from the 60's or 70's

I wasnt even paying attention to the word (in respects to my learning) but "to that" (because I dont care)

But we can all be quirky, and I allow for that,

but is all this really necessary?? LOL

Sure blame me?
Kidding.

Apparently wars and nations have been fought over the word groovy?
That word......and salt....?

I just like the way it sounded. I love the 70's man.

Sorry DCon.

 

[SaintJoeNow]

True Path – Believers in Antioc, Syria collected the Holy Scriptures, which formed the New Testament. Antioc is where followers of Christ were first called Christians. They made many copies of the scriptures and shared them with other churches, and many believed in Jesus through their witness.
Corrupt Path –Satan countered by having philosophers in Alexandria, Egypt change the Syrian texts to fit their beliefs. Unbelieving philosophers in Alexandria Egypt, such as a man named Origen, who did not accept the Bible as the Word of God or Jesus as the Son of God; amended, added to and deleted many portions of the true text and then palmed off their work as the Word of God.
As a result, their Greek manuscripts either changed words, deleted words, or deleted entire verses, where a text validated the deity of Jesus.
The two most prominent of the corrupt Alexandrian codices are called the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus:
Codex Siniaticus (Aleph or a) was put in the trash heap by the monks of St Catherine’s Monastery. On nearly every page of the manuscript there are corrections and revisions, done by 10 different people. It is indeed worthless trash.
Codex Vaticanus (B) is kept by the Roman Catholic Church, which the Reformers properly identified as Antichrist.
In the gospels alone it leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses and 748 whole sentences.
The early Christians REJECTED these manuscripts, so they were cast aside for a thousand years, until they were later dug up and called “ancient manuscripts.”



Only the King James Bible adheres to the Received Text, the Textus Receptus. From the early days of the church untill today, there have always been as there still are, ungodly people trying to change the Word of God and there always has been and always will be a correctly, accurately, innerrantly preserved complete Word Of God. The King James Bible is the greatest translation used by God far above and beyond any previous or later translation because it brought the Word of God to the English speaking world..without error as God promised His word wouild be preserved even to the tiniest punctuation mark.

Ungodly people have always tried to change the Word of God, and godly people have been used by God to preserve it and pass it down through the generations. Not saying everybody who argues against the King James is ungodly, I greatly admire many men of God who do not understand the importance of the doctrine of preservation of scripture...McGhee, Stanley, Packer, Lauree or Lawry...good preacher, great ministry, fruitful...but compromised on holiness in entertainment and in preservation of the Word of God, other than that he is strong and Biblical in doctrine as far as I know...

The problem with not upholding the preseverd Word of God in English is that people who are weak in doctrine use watered down versions to build heretical doctrines, and claiming there is no inerrant standard makes it pretty much impossible to correct them based on the written Word.

 

[DesiredHaven]

Sure blame me?
Kidding.

Apparently wars and nations have been fought over the word groovy?
That word......and salt....?

I just like the way it sounded. I love the 70's man.

Sorry DCon.

ROFL!!

This is all your fault,

All dis' forthcoming "EdjUmAcAtiOn" on this groovy word is your own doin'

(yet I must needs be subject to it) LOL

 

[SaintJoeNow]

I mocked edabacation when I was 8 or 10 years old and the teachers were picketing on strike, me and my little brothers yelling at them "we don't need no edabucation!" because we were so happy school was closed down. How old are you jokers now?

 

[DesiredHaven]

I mocked edabacation when I was 8 or 10 years old and the teachers were picketing on strike, me and my little brothers yelling at them "we don't need no edabucation!" because we were so happy school was closed down. How old are you jokers now?

Get over it

 

[VioletReigns]

Can someone please tell me why I am on the hook for this word here? LOL

Why does Reborn get off the hook, for being the one who wrote it whereas the only thing I did was elbow back at him "groovy"?

I was being playful

But I get all of the follow up lectures on the word?

Okay, I get it you guys are experts in secular words from the 60's or 70's

I wasnt even paying attention to the word (in respects to my learning) but "to that" (because I dont care)

But we can all be quirky, and I allow for that,

but is all this really necessary?? LOL

Hi DesiredHaven ~ You're on no hook with me, Sister. Neither is Brother Reborn. On the contrary, I was saying use of the word groovy was just fine, as I believe Brother Jeff_56 was in agreement.

Honestly, I too was wondering why the "crude and inaccurate definition" was pointed out to you in the first place.

 

[Angela53510]

Hey Angela... nice to talk to you again, I hope you're doing well.

My first question would be where did you get "Kai theos en ho logos" from? The Greek the KJV was translated from doesn't say the same thing. The Greek from the KJV is as follows:

kai ho logos ane pros theos kai ho logos ane theos

Translated to say "the word was with God, and the word was God". The "originals" don't agree with one another. Which one is right, the version you posted from or the version I posted from?

Obviously, I was not translating the whole of verse one. Just John 1:1c. That is what you can use to show JW's their translation is wrong. In fact, I even printed up a copy to use if they ever come to my door in this new home.

"Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος." John 1:1 SBL

"και θεος ην ο λογος" 1550 Stephanus NT (TR 1550)

The problem here, is I have no idea what your "Ane" transliterated is taking about. Please post it with Greek letters, so it actually means something! (I just transliterated what I wrote for those who don't know the Greek letters.) Maybe my "en" and your "ane" are just the "was" verb, ἦν, using different letters?? Because the verb, "WAS" is in the Greek and every version of English that I have looked at - including the KJV, ESV, even the Message!

Since both the version I use, and a modern version and a 1550 version are all in agreement, to say nothing of my Greek teacher, I will stick with all those versions. But if this is merely a difference in transliteration letters, then we are the in agreement. I'm going with that, although I will wait for you to post the actual Greek, if you disagree!

I have no idea which Greek text you are using, but the final result is exactly the same!

You are missing the point of my whole post, which is what you like to do. The point is to use the Greek to defend the faith against cults and unbelievers, and if possible win them to Christ.

That is what we are supposed to be doing as believers, right? Win people to Christ, including cult members, who come on here, or show up on our doorstep.

"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[SUP][a][/SUP] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [SUP]20 [/SUP]teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Matt 28:18-20