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AgeofKnowledge

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No don't "live and let live." Don't waste the life God gave you in dissipation and/or gross negligence but rather do pull the logs out of your eye as a "new creature in Christ" with God's help so that you can help someone else.

Live and let live, and if you don't sin at all then pull out specks and throw some stones!
 

blue_ladybug

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IMO, people are not "born gay." God hates the sin of homosexuality, so why would he create a baby to be born gay? That makes no sense whatsoever. Use some common sense!! lol..
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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My friends at church who once lived and identified as homosexuals but now whom are happily married with children to a member of the opposite sex would disagree with you mate. They did pick and they did choose.

Parroting false assertions you "learned" in the liberal media from the homosexual lobby does not change the fact that people can change and do so when they choose to.


A person can be attracted to people of the same sex and be a christian the same as a person can be attracted lustful to members of the opposite sex and be christian. You don't get to pick and choose mate. I never said being immoral was alirght, I said everyone is immoral in one way or another. Big difference.
 
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IMO, people are not "born gay." God hates the sin of homosexuality, so why would he create a baby to be born gay? That makes no sense whatsoever. Use some common sense!! lol..
In that argument it means either that God made babies have down syndrome or that the babies had some cause to their downs syndrome.

Instead, I believe people are "born gay" because we are all born with a sinful nature. Are we surprised that the falleness of our flesh is done immediately at conception.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Certainly everyone is born with an unregenerate sin nature and Down's babies are born with a third copy of chromosome 21; however, this doesn't prove that babies are born homosexual.

My niece likes to build sand castles at the beach, does that mean alien castles exist on the moon? No.

Good article from a Dr. Michael Brown: No One Is Born Gay



In that argument it means either that God made babies have down syndrome or that the babies had some cause to their downs syndrome.

Instead, I believe people are "born gay" because we are all born with a sinful nature. Are we surprised that the falleness of our flesh is done immediately at conception.
 
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Saved2004

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In that argument it means either that God made babies have down syndrome or that the babies had some cause to their downs syndrome.

Instead, I believe people are "born gay" because we are all born with a sinful nature. Are we surprised that the falleness of our flesh is done immediately at conception.
Though I certainly see your approach, but for me this is the wrong. Downs Syndrome is a poor example why we should accept homosexuality. Downs Syndrome is not a sin, to God homosexuality is! But that is still not the main point.

Homosexuality, is the same as any sin, the problem is being in denial and non-repentant for that sin!
Jesus said rebuke the sin but forgive those who are repentant!
 
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No don't "live and let live." Don't waste the life God gave you in dissipation and/or gross negligence but rather do pull the logs out of your eye as a "new creature in Christ" with God's help so that you can help someone else.


This is ''help'' to some people.
 
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My friends at church who once lived and identified as homosexuals but now whom are happily married with children to a member of the opposite sex would disagree with you mate. They did pick and they did choose.

Parroting false assertions you "learned" in the liberal media from the homosexual lobby does not change the fact that people can change and do so when they choose to.
It doesn't change the fact that a person can be attracted to the same sex and be a Christian, you pedantic twerp. Put your wee straw men away.
 
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Great picture of a NON-Christian!
And how do you come to that conclusion? What makes them less Christian than you? They follow the bible, they believe Jesus came to save people, they profess belief in him, they go to church, they read the bible literally and they profess Christianity as their religion.

So how do you define them as ''not Christian''? Is it because ''a Christian wouldn't do that?''

Well in fact, look at the history of Christianity. People have done a lot worse! People continue to be horrible human beings because they believe they're doing right by God. It's stupid, but it's reality. Perhaps in fifty or a hundred years people will look at you lot and think ''what barbarians! They weren't Christians at all!''
 
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We know what the bible tells us...all men are born with a sin natured flesh...and need Christ...After Christ we have a new set of rules and the Spirit of God to empower us unto obedience ...we also know God does not hate man, even sinners He loves but they must yield to His Mercy and goodness...so because the devil puts a sign in the hands of a man to confuse who God is...it don't mean nothing to us who really knows God.
 
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We know what the bible tells us...all men are born with a sin natured flesh...and need Christ...After Christ we have a new set of rules and the Spirit of God to empower us unto obedience ...we also know God does not hate man, even sinners He loves but they must yield to His Mercy and goodness...so because the devil puts a sign in the hands of a man to confuse who God is...it don't mean nothing to us who really knows God.
And your arbitrary notions of who is good enough to be considered a Christian within your arbitrary interpretations of the bible are objective grounds for defining what a ''true Christian is'', are they?

There's a reason Jesus said don't throw stones.
 
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Mitspa

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And how do you come to that conclusion? What makes them less Christian than you? They follow the bible, they believe Jesus came to save people, they profess belief in him, they go to church, they read the bible literally and they profess Christianity as their religion.

So how do you define them as ''not Christian''? Is it because ''a Christian wouldn't do that?''

Well in fact, look at the history of Christianity. People have done a lot worse! People continue to be horrible human beings because they believe they're doing right by God. It's stupid, but it's reality. Perhaps in fifty or a hundred years people will look at you lot and think ''what barbarians! They weren't Christians at all!''
Here we go we must accept sin because some Christian or someone who called themselves a Christian ...did something wrong? That's insane, and one can ever approve sin by pointing to sin.
 
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Here we go we must accept sin because some Christian or someone who called themselves a Christian ...did something wrong? That's insane, and one can ever approve sin by pointing to sin.
I didn't say accept sin. I said concentrate on your own.
 
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Mitspa

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And your arbitrary notions of who is good enough to be considered a Christian within your arbitrary interpretations of the bible are objective grounds for defining what a ''true Christian is'', are they?

There's a reason Jesus said don't throw stones.
Its written in evident words...because you decide to ignore them don't make them wrong...and if you want to debate this issue from the truth of Gods Word, that would be fine with me....do you understand these words?

2Ti 2:19 ¶ Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
 
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Mitspa

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I didn't say accept sin. I said concentrate on your own.
Well I obey the bible, and clearly you don't understand the role and responsibility of a believer in Christ...

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
 

Oncefallen

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It doesn't change the fact that a person can be attracted to the same sex and be a Christian, you pedantic twerp. Put your wee straw men away.
There are not many within Christianity that would claim that someone who is same sex attracted cannot truly be a Christian, however, most persons within Christianity would say that someone who is actively living out their attraction in a homosexual relationship cannot truly be a Christian. There is a big difference between an attraction and a lifestyle.

Anyone can CLAIM to be a Christian just as much as I could CLAIM to be a 1976 Ford F-150 pickup. What makes someone a Christian is not a claim, but a life changing experience with Jesus Christ that causes them to REPENT from their sin and align themselves with God's viewpoints. We don't get to tell God what is (or is not) sin any more that I can tell Ford Motor Company what is (or is not) a Ford truck.


PS. You are more than welcome to disagree with people's opinions, but name calling is generally frowned upon.
 

blue_ladybug

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And how do you come to that conclusion? What makes them less Christian than you? They follow the bible, they believe Jesus came to save people, they profess belief in him, they go to church, they read the bible literally and they profess Christianity as their religion.

So how do you define them as ''not Christian''? Is it because ''a Christian wouldn't do that?''

Well in fact, look at the history of Christianity. People have done a lot worse! People continue to be horrible human beings because they believe they're doing right by God. It's stupid, but it's reality. Perhaps in fifty or a hundred years people will look at you lot and think ''what barbarians! They weren't Christians at all!''

Umm, a christian would NOT say something like "fags die and God laughs." Not one with any true moral principles, anyway..and the word isn't fag.. it's homosexual...that's just ignorance talking when someone calls a gay person a fag or a queer. :/ JMO
 
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Its written in evident words...because you decide to ignore them don't make them wrong...and if you want to debate this issue from the truth of Gods Word, that would be fine with me....do you understand these words?

2Ti 2:19 ¶ Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
''Let you who are without sin cast the first stone'. You can quote Paul all you like. Paul isn't Jesus of Nazareth.