Christains never use the real power of their argument

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p_rehbein

p_rehbein

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ColinCat said:
Ok so i ask for you for evidence... You link me to a book that explains why someone else believes in god?
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Ahh, my favorite CC unbeliever rides again! :)

Some time ago, on a different thread, I gave you the evidence of the existence of God. You never replied. Hmm?

So, let us try again?

1) Do you believe humans have emotions? Love, hate, friendships, joy, sorrow, laughter, tears?

2) Are these emotions visible to the eye? Or is it their effect upon a human that is visible?

Please answer these.............thanks :)
 
AngelFrog

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I think if you read the OP again you'll realize the only thought it provoked was ; TROLL! And it is that motive behind the posting that is actually infelicitous.

Rachel20 said:
Well, for starters, not everyone's first language is English. If speaking good English is the only precursor for taking someone seriously then that is infelicitous.

I think it's really sad that an intelligent and thought provoking idea would be discarded solely for the sake of grammar or sentence structure.

Anyway peace.
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AngelFrog

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p_rehbein said:
Ahh, my favorite CC unbeliever rides again! :)

Some time ago, on a different thread, I gave you the evidence of the existence of God. You never replied. Hmm?

So, let us try again?

1) Do you believe humans have emotions? Love, hate, friendships, joy, sorrow, laughter, tears?

2) Are these emotions visible to the eye? Or is it their effect upon a human that is visible?

Please answer these.............thanks :)
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Don't you ever wonder how someone who avows God isn't real chooses to spend very real time in a forum dedicated to everything that unbeliever believes is non-existent?
 
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p_rehbein said:
Ahh, my favorite CC unbeliever rides again! :)

Some time ago, on a different thread, I gave you the evidence of the existence of God. You never replied. Hmm?

So, let us try again?

1) Do you believe humans have emotions? Love, hate, friendships, joy, sorrow, laughter, tears?

2) Are these emotions visible to the eye? Or is it their effect upon a human that is visible?

Please answer these.............thanks :)
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When was this evidence you presented? Why hasn't this evidence stormed the international media as the answer to the biggest question ever?


OK I'll answer...

Yes I am aware of those emotions. No they are not a tangible thing but I can see the effect of them, yes
 
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kedge

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Rachel20 said:
So using historical facts, scientific theories and other reports in conjunction with the Bible makes sense than using the Bible alone in discussion with an atheist - that is what I understood from this. (could be wrong)

I also saw it as the OP urging Christians to be wise and prepare more before discussion than just debate for the sake of it.
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That's how i read it. What people need to do is to research evolution, many atheists wave the banner of evolution over their camp so as to not appear ignorant and avoid the origin of our known universe and everything within it including planet earth and living organisms on earth. No individual human being or groups of human beings observed God creating anything so at first it has to be assumed that God created the universe and all natural phenomena. Remember though that the Bible is not a scientific book like one might find in a scientific lab, the Bible can be in harmony with certain scientific findings, as where evolution struggles to explain the existence of natural phenomena by means of evolutionary natural processes, in fact atheistic evolutionists are struggling to explain what caused the big bang in the first place, and you need a starting point from the get go.
 
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AngelFrog said:
Don't you ever wonder how someone who avows God isn't real chooses to spend very real time in a forum dedicated to everything that unbeliever believes is non-existent?
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Yeah it takes me about a minute to read and respond. That's spending real time.
 
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kaylagrl

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"You can't use the bible to defend or support Christianity".

That’s like a judge walking into a courtroom and saying to the defense attorney, "You cannot use eyewitness testimony to defend or support your client"

. ...no wonder Christians do miserably against atheists...they play by their twisted rules.
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Thank you for making that point!! Took the words out of my mouth!
 
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ColinCat said:
I do discount them. Because they are just characters in a story... Written to be eye witnesses.
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Characters in a story? No historical evidence for them? Written to be eye witnesses? Can you prove that?
 
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ColinCat said:
I was just highlighting that there are many gods you don't believe in... Such as Odin, Zeus, Poseidon etc.. And me saying that you will face their judgement is equally as effective as you telling me I will face your god's judgement.
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So you know stone cold that God does not exist. No possibility at all.You're 100% certain.
 
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People who dont follow God generally make their own rules, which is based on what they want and not whats right, always based on their desires, and generally justified with "its not really hurting anyone though", which even then isnt always true, unless you only mean physical pain. And these laws are always made to appease that one persons desires over doing whats really right in the big picture. Of course its wrong to say that Christians are 100% doing all that God wants of them, but even still there is a difference between believing in Gods laws and knowing your wrong over trying to make your own rules and exaggerating things to justify them.

I have not found one secular argument that held up to me. And I can say that I have 100% not been persuaded by anything a nonbeliever has ever said once :p And alot of times they dont even go by their own logic. Like, when saying they do not believe that God is even possible, they claim that the Christian idea, that not being able to disprove God is a reason to believe Him, is wrong, but claim that they only go by proof, that an idea is not a fact without being proven, so they then believe something that has no proof. They believe God is 100% false with no proof to back up that claim. Logic seems to be totally changeable to fit the persons viewpoint, to me :p It seems more based on current popular opinion over anything real, and therefore is just another meaningless word for me :p
 
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kaylagrl said:
Sure,you go on ahead.I'll follow you :)
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No no, if you've got historical references to these eye witnesses then it needs to be presented. My position is based on the lack of such evidence.
 
blue_ladybug

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what baffles me is why atheists, who supposedly don't believe in God, or heaven or hell or WHATEVER, come onto a christian chat site where there are people who DO believe in God, heaven and hell.. :confused:
 
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ColinCat

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kaylagrl said:
So you know stone cold that God does not exist. No possibility at all.You're 100% certain.
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No one can be 100 percent certain of these things. But the lack of evidence leads me to to the conclusion that god doesn't exist.
 
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ColinCat

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blue_ladybug said:
what baffles me is why atheists, who supposedly don't believe in God, or heaven or hell or WHATEVER, come onto a christian chat site where there are people who DO believe in God, heaven and hell.. :confused:
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Don't you venture anywhere outside of your belief? Or do you just prefer to circle jerk with people who agree with you all the time?
 
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kaylagrl

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ColinCat said:
No no, if you've got historical references to these eye witnesses then it needs to be presented. My position is based on the lack of such evidence.
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Colin I do like you,though I disagree with you. But you were the one who put it out there first.So you prove your point and I will comment on it.You spoke first :) Not being sarcastic either.You post what you believe and I will answer best as I can.
 
1joseph

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ColinCat said:
Resurrection isn't unique to your religion.

What about the resurrections of Attis, Quetzalcoatl, Krishna, Tammuz and Osiris? (Plus many more...)
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ColinCat, I am surprised you are still on CC. You seem like an intelligent person. You are not here seeking Truth so why bother? Those who are chosen will not be swayed, indeed can not be swayed.
 
1joseph

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Brothers and sisters in Christ, do not respond to ColinCat and he will leave CC.
 
blue_ladybug

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ColinCat said:
No one can be 100 percent certain of these things. But the lack of evidence leads me to to the conclusion that god doesn't exist.
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what lack of evidence? The bible CLEARLY states that GOD created the world, that GOD created Adam and Eve, that GOD himself came to earth in human form as Jesus, and that GOD as Jesus, ultimately died for our sins. The repetitive key phrase here is GOD CREATED..

so if God does NOT exist, as you believe, then explain how he could have possibly created the world, and died for us, if he doesn't even exist.. that's just silliness..
 
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