Someone please answer my question .

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JesusLives

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2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

When anyone calls any Holy Bible "scripture",
yet believes only the O.T. original autographs
were given by inspiration of God, it is dishonest.

They don't have the O.T. original autographs.



or if anyone believes only the original O.T. & N.T. autographs
were scripture given by inspiration of God,
it is also dishonest to call what they scripture.

They don't have the O.T. or N.T. original manuscripts.



What is the truth about this ?




Hi again....Blond here.....You have already admitted to 21 years of theology training and the Blond graduated with a GED and a couple college courses. I only have the Bible to go with and the verse you listed above plus another that says men were lead by God's Holy Spirit to write the Bible. So I am going to believe God's word and the word's He inspired men to write. Have you ever wondered why Jesus said Unless you become like little children you can't enter the kingdom of heaven.....?

The religious leaders couldn't understand why Jesus hung out with sinners, but yet the sinners accepted His free gift and I wonder how many leaders will actually make it into heaven? So sorry I can't answer your question...I'm trying to learn to be like a child and trust what is written in the entire Bible as God's Inspired written word by men that were lead by God's Holy Spirit...I'm just not educated enough to even get the meaning of your question.....Thank God the gospel is simple enough for anyone to understand.....
 
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I do. The OP is a KJV Onlyist, though a most bizarre one whose let his radical nonsense carry him into territory most KJV Onlyists won't go. He point-blank denies that is his agenda even when confronted with the facts that his posts contain all the rhetoric, key words, and heresy of the movement.

Reading him is a waste of time and effort.
I am not a KJV Only and I am not an Original Only .

I believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God .

I believe there are Holy Bibles and Corrupt Bibles .

Beyond that, I think the Purified Text Theory is the correct scientific

explanation of bible canonization and the Record Theory independently

answers the questions of final canonization .





 
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atwhatcost

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#65
Never mind. I take back most of what I said.

I did think this was a thread about agreement. Now I know better.

I did think I felt smarter today. Now I know better.

I did think this was about learning. Now I know better.

I will learn yet... if it kills me.

(Ewwww, my feet are disgusting. They need a good washing after this.)
 
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VioletReigns

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I do. The OP is a KJV Onlyist, though a most bizarre one whose let his radical nonsense carry him into territory most KJV Onlyists won't go. He point-blank denies that is his agenda even when confronted with the facts that his posts contain all the rhetoric, key words, and heresy of the movement.

Reading him is a waste of time and effort.
While I have him on ignore, I am concerned for any vulnerable brothers and sisters who are captivated by his ridiculous words appearing to be wisdom. I'm glad you explained where he's coming from. Thank you for that, Bro Viligant_Warrior. :)

Hopefully people will take your advice and reject his posts. Notice how nowhere in his ramblings does he reflect the grace and liberty of Jesus Christ. In fact, I don't think he mentions Jesus at all. Kinda strange, huh? :confused:
 
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atwhatcost

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#68
Glad somebody understands something. Maybe I'm stupid, but it seems there was like some point starting to be made, and then the thread went into the Twilight Zone. Maybe whatever the point is should be left a mystery, also.
In all fairness, that was the first post on this thread, so it hadn't yet gone into Twilight Zone yet. lol

I did apologize for thinking that way too soon, considering I'm back to totally lost. At least I've learned who not to try to understand anymore. (Baby steps. I often need baby steps.)
 
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skylove7

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#69
Lol....ladies,...let's just Bedazzle the trolls...in Jesus name! ;-)

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Believers will believe, doubters will doubt and haters will hate .

God is more interested in preserving his words than all the recognized scholars,

amateur theologians and ecumenical inter-denominationalists.


Psalms 12:6-7
6 The words of the LORD are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
from this generation for ever.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, translated and read book of all time !




 
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Isa:41:21: Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
Isa:41:22: Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
Isa:41:23: Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Isa:41:24: Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
Isa:41:25: I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
Isa:41:26: Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
Isa:41:27: The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
Isa:41:28: For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counseller, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
Isa:41:29: Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.


God challenges all religions to show the end from the beginning and to prove that their God is real.God said nobody will be able to answer you.

God proves that He does exist by showing the whole history of mankind from Adam and Eve to the beast king in Revelation,which God said you will be able to understand the book of Revelation because of technology so you can see what the world is doing and they are doing what God said they would do.

Whether they have the original manuscripts or not the Holy Bible is God's word,and I read through the Bible,and there is no way that it comes from people alone.God tells us about every kingdom that will come about before they came about which the next kingdom to come is the world split into 10 sections with a leader in each section,which is the 10 horns,who hand their power over to the beast,and that is how he gets control of the world,which his agenda is their is no personal God so he will take away the hope of the world,and when they take the mark of the beast repentance is no longer available to them and God will put them down.

But I believe they have the original manuscripts and what about the Jews that have the Old Testament,but if they did not have them I still believe the Holy Bible is the word of the only living God for there is no other.

Isa:44:8: Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Isa:43:10: Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa:43:11: I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa:43:12: I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

God said that He searched the universe and He cannot find another God and there will be no other God formed.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Beyond that, I think the Purified Text Theory is the correct scientific

explanation of bible canonization and the Record Theory independently

answers the questions of final canonization .
Just glad you're on the case. Everybody would agree that, no matter where you go, this is a raging controversy.
 
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no, I'm serious,
not to doubtful disputation,

strive or contention but in sincerity, I ask

What is the truth about this ?




God has the power to preserve scripture in truth, no matter what language is used, whether you believe that or not. It is obvious you haven't the faith to believe God's power to do this. Have you studies the Hebrew language? If not, that's the first place to start in answering your quesiotn. Take it to the Lord in prayer. Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find.
 

JesusLives

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#75

It is perfectly obvious, oldhermit is a novice

and really insincere and a little creepy .
Why would you say this? Aren't we to accept and love each other as Christ has loved us?
 

oldhermit

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#76
I am not a KJV Only and I am not an Original Only .

I believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God .

I believe there are Holy Bibles and Corrupt Bibles .

Beyond that, I think the Purified Text Theory is the correct scientific

explanation of bible canonization and the Record Theory independently

answers the questions of final canonization .
Perhaps you can regale is with one of your doctoral thesis that defends this theory. I am all ears.
 
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JesusIsAll

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#77
In all fairness, that was the first post on this thread, so it hadn't yet gone into Twilight Zone yet. lol
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VioletReigns

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#78
True story. :rolleyes:
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God has the power to preserve scripture in truth, no matter what language is used, whether you believe that or not. It is obvious you haven't the faith to believe God's power to do this. Have you studies the Hebrew language? If not, that's the first place to start in answering your quesiotn. Take it to the Lord in prayer. Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find.
you say all that and then quote the KJV Holy Bible ,

lol, you have no idea what I'm saying