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Fortunately, a "church leader" does not define the congregation. Just as there are among non-Catholics, there are Catholic believers who do not follow a leadership's false teaching, and who are true believers, trusting in the blood of Christ to cover their sins and in His resurrection to bring them newness of life.
It is a grave error to assume what comes out of the mouth of the leadership is in the hearts of those who belong to the church he leads. Though it appears many in Ireland do, indeed, follow their leader out of what is in their hearts, there are millions who do not. I know one such man, and he assures me there are many. But he will not leave the Catholic Church, because, as he put it, "If we who believe leave, who will teach the others?"
I would urge all Christians not to attempt to judge the believers in the Catholic Church by what their leadership says, or what their doctrine teaches.
Talk to the Catholics you know. Find out what they believe. If they are in agreement as to who Christ is, what He has done for us, and how that plays out in their lives, then embrace them. They are brothers and sisters.
If the are not in agreement, lovingly and gently put the truth before them and let the Holy Spirit work on and in them to bring them to understanding, and where necessary, salvation.
We need to stop slaying our misguided, wounded and strayed, and start working together against the real enemy in this world.
It is a grave error to assume what comes out of the mouth of the leadership is in the hearts of those who belong to the church he leads. Though it appears many in Ireland do, indeed, follow their leader out of what is in their hearts, there are millions who do not. I know one such man, and he assures me there are many. But he will not leave the Catholic Church, because, as he put it, "If we who believe leave, who will teach the others?"
I would urge all Christians not to attempt to judge the believers in the Catholic Church by what their leadership says, or what their doctrine teaches.
Talk to the Catholics you know. Find out what they believe. If they are in agreement as to who Christ is, what He has done for us, and how that plays out in their lives, then embrace them. They are brothers and sisters.
If the are not in agreement, lovingly and gently put the truth before them and let the Holy Spirit work on and in them to bring them to understanding, and where necessary, salvation.
We need to stop slaying our misguided, wounded and strayed, and start working together against the real enemy in this world.
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The Pope did not actually say anything. You're pastor was misquoting the Archbishop of Dublin who said, "The Church has to find a new language which will be understood and heard by people," Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin, a senior Irish cleric, told reporters after mass at the city's St Mary's Pro-Cathedral."We have to see how is it that the Church's teaching on marriage and family is not being received even within its own flock."
He added: "There's a growing gap between Irish young people and the Church and there's a growing gap between the culture of Ireland that's developing and the Church."
So, what the Archbishop is saying is not that they have to listen to the younger generation and accept their folly, but instead, seek how to correctly teach and communicate the truth about marriage and family. I find it rather uplifting that the Church's response in this situation is in essence, "This is our fault. We failed to educate, and the people have gone astray." That is honesty.
He added: "There's a growing gap between Irish young people and the Church and there's a growing gap between the culture of Ireland that's developing and the Church."
So, what the Archbishop is saying is not that they have to listen to the younger generation and accept their folly, but instead, seek how to correctly teach and communicate the truth about marriage and family. I find it rather uplifting that the Church's response in this situation is in essence, "This is our fault. We failed to educate, and the people have gone astray." That is honesty.
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So who will perform the marriages? This will prove which churches are Christian. Right now a church pastor isn't being forced to perform the ceremony for gay "marriages." But I think the time will come.
The RCC is not taking a definite stand against it which is sad. The Archbishop should not come on camera and soft pedal holiness. It is too sad to hear wishy washy on this issue. He never really said anything against or for it IMO. He should take a stand for holiness.
The RCC is not taking a definite stand against it which is sad. The Archbishop should not come on camera and soft pedal holiness. It is too sad to hear wishy washy on this issue. He never really said anything against or for it IMO. He should take a stand for holiness.
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PRIDE is nurtured from a young age in RCC. Pride in their history, that they are the true church. They have the stamp of approval from God and we don't. I know some catholics who are saved, but they don't grow because they will NOT leave the RCC and they hear the same things that aren't in the bible week after week. Also know some who have left and are angry they were fed untruths.
Honestly I fully understand the CC perspective on Gays and Im defo not trying to disrespect that. I'm just saying that its just about Gays having the right to marry. That means their partner is legally recognised. Í guess I don't see it as so catastrophic as you guys. I don't see people rushing of to be gay or wotevea and I don't see how it will affect Christian beliefs coz u either believe or not..... so wot am I trying to say - I guess yea disapprove but try not to be like this is the end of the world. Things change - nothing stays the same.... sigh...I know wot Ive said is out there so maybe I'll just say sorry now if I have offended anyone