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Hi zoii, as an Irishman, maybe I can shed some light on some of the problems with this legislation which was passed here in Ireland.
This is not simply an "equality" or "gay rights" issue. This is an issue that will directly affect the lives of thousands of people, in particular children, here in Ireland over the coming decades.
For starters, this legislation has changed the very constitution of Ireland. One of the most pro-life and pro-family constitutions ever written by any country is now under attack on these very issues.
You said that you believe that gay people should have the right to marry. That sparks a hugely important question; What is Marriage? What meaning does that word actually hold? Very simply, for the past several thousand years, every culture in the world held the same meaning for the word marriage: the lifelong union between a man and woman in which their commitment would be expressed sexually and in the rearing of children. That IS what marriage is. That is it's meaning. The first country to decide that gay people could be included in that definition was the Netherlands about 15 years ago.
Should two gay people have the right to commit to each other for life? That's a matter of opinion. But that union can and never will be Marriage, because it is simply different. It is a fruitless union incapable of bringing new life into the world.
Moving on to what it all means for Ireland. The legislation now means that, because two men in a "marriage" is totally equal to a man and a woman (which is nonsense, as these two unions are clearly different), those two mean have an equal right to have children. Now that, at first, of course seems totally irrational. Two men cannot have children. Fact. However because of the age we now live in, a process called surrogacy exists. I won't go into details as you're quite young but basically a child is created at the request of this gay couple, which a surrogate mother gives birth to, and must then hand over two these two men. That child has no right to make contact with her biological mother until she turns 18. This is going to create innumerable children who are born with no biological family ties. No father, no mother, no aunts, no uncles, no grandparents. No medical history from her parents, as both her fathers will be listed on the birth certificate as her actual parents (again, irrational).
Again, with adoption, two men will have the exact same right as a man and a woman two adopt a child. This means that it will be against the law for an adoption agency to favour a man and woman as parents over two men, even though common sense and the medical world both clearly state that the best environment for the raising of a healthy happy child is in a male-female marriage that is low in conflict.
All the moral and legal issues, and the likely future consequences for children and Irish society make this far from being a simple matter which only affects two people in a "gay marriage".
This is not simply an "equality" or "gay rights" issue. This is an issue that will directly affect the lives of thousands of people, in particular children, here in Ireland over the coming decades.
For starters, this legislation has changed the very constitution of Ireland. One of the most pro-life and pro-family constitutions ever written by any country is now under attack on these very issues.
You said that you believe that gay people should have the right to marry. That sparks a hugely important question; What is Marriage? What meaning does that word actually hold? Very simply, for the past several thousand years, every culture in the world held the same meaning for the word marriage: the lifelong union between a man and woman in which their commitment would be expressed sexually and in the rearing of children. That IS what marriage is. That is it's meaning. The first country to decide that gay people could be included in that definition was the Netherlands about 15 years ago.
Should two gay people have the right to commit to each other for life? That's a matter of opinion. But that union can and never will be Marriage, because it is simply different. It is a fruitless union incapable of bringing new life into the world.
Moving on to what it all means for Ireland. The legislation now means that, because two men in a "marriage" is totally equal to a man and a woman (which is nonsense, as these two unions are clearly different), those two mean have an equal right to have children. Now that, at first, of course seems totally irrational. Two men cannot have children. Fact. However because of the age we now live in, a process called surrogacy exists. I won't go into details as you're quite young but basically a child is created at the request of this gay couple, which a surrogate mother gives birth to, and must then hand over two these two men. That child has no right to make contact with her biological mother until she turns 18. This is going to create innumerable children who are born with no biological family ties. No father, no mother, no aunts, no uncles, no grandparents. No medical history from her parents, as both her fathers will be listed on the birth certificate as her actual parents (again, irrational).
Again, with adoption, two men will have the exact same right as a man and a woman two adopt a child. This means that it will be against the law for an adoption agency to favour a man and woman as parents over two men, even though common sense and the medical world both clearly state that the best environment for the raising of a healthy happy child is in a male-female marriage that is low in conflict.
All the moral and legal issues, and the likely future consequences for children and Irish society make this far from being a simple matter which only affects two people in a "gay marriage".
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Hey Zoii.....this is where your lack of knowledge hinders your stance and belief...Romans teaches that when a society reaches the point where it accepts and embraces homosexuality that it is the end result of God giving them over to a re[probate mind void of judgment and the only thing left is the wrath of God...it is sign of impending judgment and God will eventually run out of patience and it will be time for him to judge.....so in reality it is a tragic sing that the end of the age is not that far away....when God gets done there will be few men left and a man (singular) will be worth more that fine gold.
Hopefully the pope hasn't changed his mind since January...
Pope Francis criticizes gay marriage, backs ban on contraception | Crux
Pope Francis criticizes gay marriage, backs ban on contraception | Crux
I've been reading about this on FB and in the secular media. It is so nice that these gays now feel like real people. Apparently, some did not. So they can really adopt children and raise them to be homosexuals, too, I guess.
I am sorry to hear Ireland has followed Canada down this path. Including change the constitution and the whole meaning of marriage.
It's times like this, I do believe Jesus needs to return sooner, rather than later.
I'm not against gay people, just the fact that they are such a small minority and changing the values of everything that has been know to be right through history in thousands of places and cultures.
I am sorry to hear Ireland has followed Canada down this path. Including change the constitution and the whole meaning of marriage.
It's times like this, I do believe Jesus needs to return sooner, rather than later.
I'm not against gay people, just the fact that they are such a small minority and changing the values of everything that has been know to be right through history in thousands of places and cultures.