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Sins unto death are the sins that John lists in Revelation 21:8 that leads unto the second DEATH, which is the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire will completely destroy both the soul and the body of the wicked. For Jesus says, fear not him who can destroy the body, but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna (i.e. the Lake of Fire).
1 John 1:9 is talking about how one is cleansed of all unrigtheousness if they coness their sins. This is in reference to past sin because if it was future sin, then it would make no sense to confess sin so as to be forgiven of sin as per what 1 John 1:9 says.
The unforgivable sin is speaking bad against the Holy Ghost. If someone says this, they can never be forgiven ever.
Verses, please. Also, is it a sin unto death? What if a person is trapped in a jungle and or does not have a church nearby? Are they condemned? What if most churches in their area are corrupt?
Do you know that you can have fellowship with a small group of believers in a person's home?
1 John 1:9 is talking about how one is cleansed of all unrigtheousness if they coness their sins. This is in reference to past sin because if it was future sin, then it would make no sense to confess sin so as to be forgiven of sin as per what 1 John 1:9 says.
The unforgivable sin is speaking bad against the Holy Ghost. If someone says this, they can never be forgiven ever.
Verses, please. Also, is it a sin unto death? What if a person is trapped in a jungle and or does not have a church nearby? Are they condemned? What if most churches in their area are corrupt?
Do you know that you can have fellowship with a small group of believers in a person's home?
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We are not under the Law of Moses anymore (Hebrews 8:13). The law has changed (Hebrews 7:12). We are under the Law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) or the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2).
Oh, and there are different types of sins. There are sins unto death and there are sins that are not unto death (See 1 John 5:16-18). For there are sins that are unforgivable. Jesus also says there is a...."Greater sin", too. So no. Not all sins are the same. That is a common misconception.
Oh, and there are different types of sins. There are sins unto death and there are sins that are not unto death (See 1 John 5:16-18). For there are sins that are unforgivable. Jesus also says there is a...."Greater sin", too. So no. Not all sins are the same. That is a common misconception.
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Jason, you need to learn so much and be taught by a man of God. I am not that man but there is one out there just for you. There is no such thing as an unpardonable sin and there has never been. What is unforgivable is speaking evil of the Holy Spirit of whom the Spirit dwells. All sin has been paid for and can be forgiven and cleansed but evil was not paid for by the blood of Christ and the one who expresses it toward the body of Christ is in danger of the second death. This evil is what Christ taught his disciples to pray, 'deliver us from evil'. One must be delivered from evil. Evil can not be forgiven for it was not covered by the blood of Christ, that is why those who commit such are in danger.
Sorry, no offense, but I completely reject what you are saying. I believe you teach a sin and still be saved doctrine (of which I believe to be pure evil). Also, God's Word is plain. Blasphemy is speaking bad against God. Also, there are conditions in the Bible in regards to a believer's right standing with God. Matthew 6:15, 1 John 3:!5, etc.
You are offensive because you are not truthful. You accuse another who professes to be a believer and we all know who is the accuser of the brethren.
Sinless perfectionism has its genesis in the I will be like the Most High God heart attitude. Read all of 1 John and keep the context of the book correct. John says that if we say we have no sin we make Christ a liar. When we sin and not if we sin we have an advocate with the Father.
Believers can never be brought under the condemnation of sin. Believers can only suffer the disruption of the precious fellowship they have with Christ when they sin and fail to seek forgiveness for it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Sinless perfectionism has its genesis in the I will be like the Most High God heart attitude. Read all of 1 John and keep the context of the book correct. John says that if we say we have no sin we make Christ a liar. When we sin and not if we sin we have an advocate with the Father.
Believers can never be brought under the condemnation of sin. Believers can only suffer the disruption of the precious fellowship they have with Christ when they sin and fail to seek forgiveness for it.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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To be fair here Mr. Roger, this has been going both ways, because Jason has been getting the same (if not worse) treatment on here from many others. You don't agree with him and he doesn't agree with you, but the fact is, if he is offensive, the many others on here are also (because Jason professes to be a believer also)
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Jason, you can believe anything you want about me are what I share here on CC. I do not believe in living in sin at all. You attribute and impute that to me and others because of a problem you have with sin and what Christ has done to it. When Christ WAS shedding his blood on the cross, was that for all your sins or just the ones you committed before you were saved? Can you see how misleading that can be?
To believe that all future sins were not paid for is wrong. To believe that when we trust Christ for the forgiveness of sin, that would mean all sin and not just some. If we sin after we believe, our sin is already buried and we acknowledge what we have done because of conviction. We then put it off and go on by faith. We do not need to be sorry for what we have done, just acknowledge it.
To believe that all future sins were not paid for is wrong. To believe that when we trust Christ for the forgiveness of sin, that would mean all sin and not just some. If we sin after we believe, our sin is already buried and we acknowledge what we have done because of conviction. We then put it off and go on by faith. We do not need to be sorry for what we have done, just acknowledge it.
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See your strawman, The jews sought to do right also. Yet they could not do right. Just because one seeks to do right, does not mean they understand what right is. Our right and Gods right are not the same.
There are non who do good. that is the status of a non believer.
Again a strawman, Just because they claim it, does not mean they do it, or can do it. Paul understood this clearly. you can;t because you want to puff yourself up and make your case. Your failing miserably
So do you want to stick to the point, or keep going off in circles. You need to try again, You did not answer anything you responded to. all you did was try to make an excuse why your right, you did not prove your point.
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So he spoke future tense here.. And this proves he spoke of past tense. there is no present tense article here so whats your point?
Yep, and he was wrong wasn't he? He also rejected christ, and probably was praising God for his crucifiction. notice how you failed to respond to the fact Paul praised God through Christ,, He never did that pre conversion.