Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

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john832

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What is the long past?

Do you think that there is overwhelming scientific evidence that Neathderthals lived on this planet 50,000 years ago?
Could you produce a little of this "overwhelming evidence" you speak of? Real, verifiable evidence not based on the circular reasoning that fossils date strata but the strata dates the fossils.
 

john832

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Real science sent us to the moon.

Real science provided the technology you use to get online and post to this forum.

You don't think technology is such that scientists can not determine if a dinosaur fossil is millions of years old as opposed to thousands of years old?
You speak of science today as if it was fool proof. You do understand that there is no unified theory, don't you? You do understand that the General Relativity cannot explain the forces working on very small particles and you do understand that Quantum Field Theory cannot explain the forces that work on large objects, don't you?

You speak as though science has actually solved all these issues and knows everything.
 

john832

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A parting shot, if everything evolved, why are the Laws that govern the universe fixed and not evolving themselves?
 

john832

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So you admit its a matter of faith and not real science? That was my point from the start, you have your faith and I have mine :)
It takes far more faith to believe that there was nothing and one day it blew up and made everything than it takes to believe...

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
 

valiant

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We went to the moon, right? And we got rocks from the moon right?
scientific facts assuming you accept the honest of nasa. ok then not facts but probabilities.

And the rocks were determined by real science to be billions of years old.
pure hypothesis dependent on the reliability or unreliability of dating methods.

You believe we can go to the moon but can not tell how old moon rocks are?
i'm sure of it. the two ideas are unrelated.

What do you consider to be real logic and science?
what can be proved again and again by experiment

That the moon is around 6,000 years old?
there is no logic that says not. but historical and biblical evidence is against it
 
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john832

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Actually, I find Alan Guth to be a much greater joke than Dr. Dino. The real joke is that everything came from nothing.
 
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It takes far more faith to believe that there was nothing and one day it blew up and made everything than it takes to believe...

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Couldn't God have created it with a big bang?

I know you just jumping in here with your talking points without reading previous posts, but please just go back a bit and refer to Post #1223.
 
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Could you produce a little of this "overwhelming evidence" you speak of? Real, verifiable evidence not based on the circular reasoning that fossils date strata but the strata dates the fossils.
Try DNA.

The real issue is whether Neanderthal interbred with modern humans and whether Neanderthal are fully human, not human, or somewhere in between.

What do you think?
 
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Try DNA.

The real issue is whether Neanderthal interbred with modern humans and whether Neanderthal are fully human, not human, or somewhere in between.

What do you think?
What DNA evidence do you have?
 
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Best I can tell DNA from a neanderthal disproves the whole evolutionary concept, because it contains no relations to African DNA...which according to evolution is supposed to be the root of all human species. Or should we just ignore any thing that might question the fairy tale?
 
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Best I can tell DNA from a neanderthal disproves the whole evolutionary concept, because it contains no relations to African DNA...which according to evolution is supposed to be the root of all human species. Or should we just ignore any thing that might question the fairy tale?
I just knew you were an expert on Neanderthal.

Before we get to Neanderthal DNA, let's do some preliminaries.

First, when did Neanderthal walk the Earth?

From when to when?
 
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Funny, but the "science" of radiometric dating has serious flaws.
Sure it does.

If you listen to YEC propaganda machines like ICR, AIG, and CMI.

To them no date beyond 6,000 years old is possibly accurate, no matter what evidence is provided.

Do you think there is anything on this planet that has been accurately dated at more than 6,000 years?
 
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Mitspa

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I just knew you were an expert on Neanderthal.

Before we get to Neanderthal DNA, let's do some preliminaries.

First, when did Neanderthal walk the Earth?

From when to when?
You don't seem to get it...I don't need to make a scientific excuse for what I believe...I have a faith in a God that breaks all the laws of physics, whenever He desires...because He made those laws :) My contention is the whole theory of evolution has no scientific evidence and breaks every known and provable law of the very science it claims to represent...its a fools religion and very poor religion at that :(
 
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A parting shot, if everything evolved, why are the Laws that govern the universe fixed and not evolving themselves?
Yes sir.
The disciple of the planets. Awesome to say the least.

We know they all landed correctly by a huge explosion with no fuel or beginning matter to explode.
This was once proven by blowing up a washing machine with 100 sticks of dynamite.
Every part landed in unbelieveable discipline.
Unbelievable I tell ya.
Simply unbelievable.
 
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popeye

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You don't seem to get it...I don't need to make a scientific excuse for what I believe...I have a faith in a God that breaks all the laws of physics, whenever He desires...because He made those laws :) My contention is the whole theory of evolution has no scientific evidence and breaks every known and provable law of the very science it claims to represent...its a fools religion and very poor religion at that :(
woah
very nice post my friend

thread killer to any sane humanoid
 
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popeye

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Best I can tell DNA from a neanderthal disproves the whole evolutionary concept, because it contains no relations to African DNA...which according to evolution is supposed to be the root of all human species. Or should we just ignore any thing that might question the fairy tale?
meanwhile ,little children trusting that the grown ups are right,swallow the evo crap served out daily in the atheists churches. The public schools.
 
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popeye

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Could you produce a little of this "overwhelming evidence" you speak of? Real, verifiable evidence not based on the circular reasoning that fossils date strata but the strata dates the fossils.
He NEVER has....NEVER will.
 
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You don't seem to get it...I don't need to make a scientific excuse for what I believe...I have a faith in a God that breaks all the laws of physics, whenever He desires...because He made those laws :) My contention is the whole theory of evolution has no scientific evidence and breaks every known and provable law of the very science it claims to represent...its a fools religion and very poor religion at that :(
You’re the one who doesn’t get it.

Speaking of faith, I don’t take issue so much with what a person believes, based on his/her personal interpretation of Scripture. What I do take issue with mostly is when that person teaches his/her personal interpretation of Scripture based upon other than Scripture, and in doing so misrepresents and distorts facts, particularly with respect to science.

I particularly object to YECs who say they have “proved” via science that:

1. The Earth is around 6,000 years old.
2. There was a global flood 4,000 to 5,000 years ago.
3. Dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

If you do not understand that the above is nonsense scientifically speaking, you can not possibly even begin to understand evolution, so there is little point in discussing evolution.

And nobody preaches more “scientific” balderdash than Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind).

Although popeye and some of these other YECs in these forums come close.
 
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Mitspa

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You’re the one who doesn’t get it.

Speaking of faith, I don’t take issue so much with what a person believes, based on his/her personal interpretation of Scripture. What I do take issue with mostly is when that person teaches his/her personal interpretation of Scripture based upon other than Scripture, and in doing so misrepresents and distorts facts, particularly with respect to science.

I particularly object to YECs who say they have “proved” via science that:

1. The Earth is around 6,000 years old.
2. There was a global flood 4,000 to 5,000 years ago.
3. Dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

If you do not understand that the above is nonsense scientifically speaking, you can not possibly even begin to understand evolution, so there is little point in discussing evolution.

And nobody preaches more “scientific” balderdash than Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind).

Although popeye and some of these other YECs in these forums come close.
Like I said these things are a matter of faith in Gods Word and honest people can have some differences in how they see things, like how the Lord represents a day etc... My point is that its takes faith to believe the biblical account...and that evolution is not based on true and provable science ...you think you have provable science that tells you how old the earth is, or when the dinos died, or about the flood...the fact is your basing what you think you know, on a false religious system that believes that nothing can blow up and make everything... There is no real evidence to any of your claims that you think is contrary to the scriptures.... The bible is right, even if Dr Dino is wrong about certain issues in your mind.
 

DiscipleDave

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The Holy Bible existed over a thousand yrs before King James changed it
Well we disagree there. Of Course i agree with how long the Word of God existed. But i disagree with your statement that the King James Verse changed it. Back then they were very meticulous to translate correctly, because they were translating the Word of God, and God was with them. Today ANYONE can retranslate the Bible, publish it, and call it the Word of God. Even though they translated it based on their own interpretations. When the King James was being translated, they did so without ANY personal thoughts, they did not translate based on their own interpretations of the verses. they translated them into English by what each Hebrew or Greek word meant. Of course they had to use their judgement on Hebrew or Greek words that could have several different meanings. But God was there to make sure His Word was done Correctly, because God knew that the KJV would survive until the Return of His Son Jesus Christ, and still after 400 years, it is still surviving. NOT that satan is not trying to get rid of it completely. It is still in his best interest to get rid of the True Word of God.

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