Elin said:
ChrisHill said:
Yes, Jaume, the common interpretations of Paul's writings ignore his intent to a very great extent.
His intent can be ascertained much more easily by referring to the Old Testament writings he quotes to prove his points.
Furthermore, doing this also helps us to interpret the Old Testament as Paul would have (we can do this with how Jesus uses the OT as well).
I like your signature. I've always wondered why we don't just call him Joshua, personally =P
Nebulous enough to apply to everyone, including yourself. . .
You should apply to me =) But if you want me to be specific, I can tell you that
every interpretation of Hebrews chapter 4 I have ever read ignores how he uses the verses he cites.
How would you interpret Hebrews chapter 4, might I ask?
In particular, what does this mean?
[Heb 4:9 NKJV] There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.
[Heb 4:10 NKJV] For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God [did] from His.
[Heb 4:11 NKJV] Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
The writer is saying that Israel's entering into Canaan under Joshua was a partial and temporary entering of rest given by God (Jos 21:44, 22:4). However, it was not the
end of entering into rest given by God, as he states (v.1), for God continues the invitation in Ps 95:7-8.
God
still gives rest. . .through faith in his Son, where the believer--like God who
rested from his
work of creation--also ceases his efforts to gain salvation by his own
works and
rests in the finished work of Christ on the cross, and which spiritual rest now will be completed in our final rest (Rev 14:13).
So which verses are you talking about that he quotes--v.3 and v.7?
v.3 - The writer warns the Hebrew Christians not to fall short of the promise of the gospel through lack of faith, as Israel had done. His argument, as he sometimes does, is from the opposite--as God has sworn that unbelievers shall not enter his rest (3:11, 4:3), so those who are
not shut out by unbelief
will enter in, if God invites them in (Ps 95:7-8).
v.7 - God set another day, today, the day of the divine grace of the gospel, to invite men again into his rest, which the writer warns the Hebrew Christians not to set their hearts against.