Arbys Employee Refuses to Serve Police Officer

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So if I dont believe in gay marriage I can not serve a gay couple? If I dislikes blacks or Jews,I dont have to serve them? Because the media sure as shootin think so. The lady in KY has refused to give marriage licences to gay couples because its against her beliefs,she's going to be fired because of it,and fined on top of that.Seems the courts disagree with you.
The media can think what they want. Why be hypocrites as they are?

So if you think the man should not be able to refuse the police officer; do you think the dame in Kentucky should not be allowed to refuse to condone sexual abuse as marriage?
 

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Arby's apologizes after employee refuses to serve police officer

So when is this foolishness going to stop? Crickets from the president who has had plenty to say on every other issue in the public eye. Arbys has called the police and apologized. How nice.Refuse to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple and there is no end to media coverage. Refuse to serve a cop and silence from the media.Kind of odd wouldnt you say?
well, is the police department suing arby's?
are well-funded, private policeman's agenda groups pouncing on the news and multicasting so much noise about it that regular media outlets think it's a grassroots viral trend and jump on the bandwagon?

because that's how this sort of thing gets plastered on thousands of websites & newsfeeds.
it really has little to do with the potus.
 
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The media can think what they want. Why be hypocrites as they are?

So if you think the man should not be able to refuse the police officer; do you think the dame in Kentucky should not be allowed to refuse to condone sexual abuse as marriage?

But thats the whole point. Hers is a religious matter which is rather different. The point is if she has to give a licence then the officer should have been served.She is being disciplined with fines and losing her job so should the employees that refused service to the cop.Fair is fair.Thats the point.
 

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This whole story is so sad. Why would anyone refuse a police officer service unless the officer had done something illegal and the kid saw it or something like that? The notion of "the officer was unsure of the safety of the food" sounds just like a reason to sue someone to me, but when I think about it maybe it meant he was worried they spat in his food...
 
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well, is the police department suing arby's?
are well-funded, private policeman's agenda groups pouncing on the news and multicasting so much noise about it that regular media outlets think it's a grassroots viral trend and jump on the bandwagon?

because that's how this sort of thing gets plastered on thousands of websites & newsfeeds.
it really has little to do with the potus.

Actually thank you for pointing that out.I think I actually mixed that comment with another thread I was posting on about cops being shot and how the president says nothing.It shouldnt have been there.Apologise,Ive been sick for over two weeks now with this weird flu.Ive taken so many meds Im still loopy.I was out with my husband trying to get groceries.He asked if we needed something and I said no then when he put it back I "yes,yes we do"! I told him to never mind what I say and that he could have the brain for the day cause mine is fried. So,sorry,that remark shouldnt have been there about the president. :)
 
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And he's going to suffer consequences for it, whether you like it or not.
Yea that's true. I guess he'll have to take some pointless sensitivity training or go work at Burger King instead.... whether you like it or not.
 
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My solution to the problem, not only apologize but fire that employee.
 
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But thats the whole point. Hers is a religious matter which is rather different. The point is if she has to give a licence then the officer should have been served.She is being disciplined with fines and losing her job so should the employees that refused service to the cop.Fair is fair.Thats the point.
What? That's the point?

I thought the point was that the man has the right to deny service like his boss said and just like the woman has the right to deny condoning sodomy. Fair is fair.
 

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Yea that's true. I guess he'll have to take some pointless sensitivity training or go work at Burger King instead.... whether you like it or not.
Pointless? The victim was a cop therefore the sensitivity training is pointless.

Your hypocrisy stripes are showing. Boo hoo hoo.
 

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I thought the point was that the man has the right to deny service.
I'll type this slowly so you can read it. He does not have the right to deny service without provocation. So you yourself go into a business and you're denied service for no reason and you're going to just chalk it up as that person has the right to refuse you service and you're going to go on your merry way. You're such a lying hypocrite.
 
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Pointless? The victim was a cop therefore the sensitivity training is pointless.

Your hypocrisy stripes are showing. Boo hoo hoo.
Pointless because you know it won't make the man more sensitive twisty one.

Your hypocrisy is showing. Either the man can refuse service to the cop and the woman can refuse to condone sodomites or elsewise the man has to serve everyone and the woman has to condone sodomites. Pick which side you're on, can't have your cake and eat it too.
 
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Why boycott? It isn't an Arby's policy, it was a bottom level employee. So why punish a company because one of their low level employees, who probably won't last six months on the job to begin with, did something stupid? What lesson is that going to teach Arby's exactly?
Yes exactly the whole mentality to punish all for what one did is just a lame thing to do !!!



Nice idea, but most police departments wouldn't allow their officers to accept it.

That said, I know Arby's has promised "disciplinary action" against the employee. I want to know why the employee wasn't fired outright after the officer said she was no longer interested in eating the food.
Where do you get this ideal for I see police officers given and accepting free food form gas stations and restaurants all the time around the Kansas city metro area.

Go to the Quick Trip on Lees Summit road and 23rd in Independence, MO around 3 AM and you will see them given free donuts from there.



They shouldn't just apologize, they should offer free food to all officers in the entire nation for at least the remainder of the year.

Same as the punishments go that all should not pay for what one did, also not all officers should reap the benefits of a wrongful act of not being served that was only done to the one.

Only the one wronged should be compensated, and the one who did the wrong needs to pay for it !!!
 
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I'll type this slowly so you can read it. He does not have the right to deny service without provocation. So you yourself go into a business and you're denied service for no reason and you're going to just chalk it up as that person has the right to refuse you service and you're going to go on your merry way. You're such a lying hypocrite.
If I go into a business and they refuse me service I'll move on and shake the dust off my feet.

So can the man refuse service to the cop and the woman refuse to condone sodomites or does the man have to serve everyone and the woman has to condone sodomites. Pick which side you're on, can't have you're cake and eat it too.
 

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Pointless because you know it won't make the man more sensitive twisty one.

Your hypocrisy is showing. Either the man can refuse service to the cop and the woman can refuse to condone sodomites or elsewise the man has to serve everyone and the woman has to condone sodomites. Pick which side you're on, can't have your cake and eat it too.
I never mentioned the woman, did I, Princess? Try again. The law of the land is what it is, if she refuses to obey the law then she needs to be dismissed. You're problem is you're trying to con a con man, and you're failing miserably.
 

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If I go into a business and they refuse me service I'll move on and shake the dust off my feet.
Never. Not you. You'll be the first to cry and call upon someone to console your whittle hurt feewings.
 
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The man has every right to deny service to anyone he wants whether you like it or not. Either the man can refuse service to whom he wants or the man has to serve everyone regardless. Anything else is hypocrisy.
What do you mean he has every right to deny to service to anyone he wants? Can you explain? He has the "right" meaning, he has the freedom to deny it? Well, that's true. I mean, the government is standing behind him with a gun, "Serve or We'll shoot!"
Neither is Arby's.

Maybe the better statement is: "He has the POWER to deny service to anyone he wants."

But does he have the "right"?

No. Arby's is his employer. The man took the job, agreed to serve the general public who visit Arby's.
No. The apostle Paul teaches a principle in Colossians 3. When you serve your earthly master, do so as unto the Lord.
Yes. The man has the "right" to deny service. According to himself and his own standard, yes. He has the right. But Arby's has the POWER/AUTHORITY and the right to run him through the beef shredder, that is, put their boot up his you know what and out the door, that is "You're Fired. And you're lucky we're doing the firing, and not a police officer who's gone postal."

Now go to Arby's. Order a Roast Beef. And don't complain about being short changed, being served a cold RB sandwich, a dirty table, and all that and more. They have a right!
 
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I never mentioned the woman, did I, Princess? Try again. The law of the land is what it is, if she refuses to obey the law then she needs to be dismissed. You're problem is you're trying to con a con man, and you're failing miserably.
Ain't trying to con you at all. Glad we know where each other stands. I'll stand with the employee for his right to refuse service and I'll stand with the woman that is being persecuted for refusing to do that which violates the theory of law.