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Why else would Paul to the Jew I will be a Jew?
Why else would Paul claim to be Jewish.
Only explaination is that he continued Jewish practices.
Then Peter, he's on whole other level.
Peter didn't even want to go near gentiles until God basically kicked his butt into gear.
Peter not wanting to go near gentiles is a Jewish thing.
Notice very very religous Jewish, will not go near anyone who is not Jewish.
Peter had a struggle on this, and like I said God kicked his butt into gear to go and teach gentiles.
Why else would Paul claim to be Jewish.
Only explaination is that he continued Jewish practices.
Then Peter, he's on whole other level.
Peter didn't even want to go near gentiles until God basically kicked his butt into gear.
Peter not wanting to go near gentiles is a Jewish thing.
Notice very very religous Jewish, will not go near anyone who is not Jewish.
Peter had a struggle on this, and like I said God kicked his butt into gear to go and teach gentiles.
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Yes along those lines, depending on how you look at it.
I don't think Paul was a deceitful person.
If you look at that text directly for what it says, it makes it sound kind of deceitful.
I don't become a muslim or athiest to witness to a muslim or athiest.
I think what Paul is stating here is to the Jews, he would teach in a way that Jews would understand.
To the Gentiles he would teach in a way Gentiles would understand.
To people who were under the law, he would teach to them in a way they would understand.
Paul's background is he was a Pharise. . . . So in no doubt before and after coming to Christ, Paul is Jewish.
I don't think Paul was a deceitful person.
If you look at that text directly for what it says, it makes it sound kind of deceitful.
I don't become a muslim or athiest to witness to a muslim or athiest.
I think what Paul is stating here is to the Jews, he would teach in a way that Jews would understand.
To the Gentiles he would teach in a way Gentiles would understand.
To people who were under the law, he would teach to them in a way they would understand.
Paul's background is he was a Pharise. . . . So in no doubt before and after coming to Christ, Paul is Jewish.
Several times I have endorsed God's..........
Commandments
In
Action
For this I'm hunted down, labeled as a legalist, and stalked like David Webb, alias Jason Bourne.
He survived and so can I by the Power of the Almighty God who gave us all of His Word, not just part of it. It really is a privilege.
Born Identity in Christ Jesus.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6
Commandments
In
Action
For this I'm hunted down, labeled as a legalist, and stalked like David Webb, alias Jason Bourne.
He survived and so can I by the Power of the Almighty God who gave us all of His Word, not just part of it. It really is a privilege.
Born Identity in Christ Jesus.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Several times I have endorsed God's..........
Commandments
In
Action
For this I'm hunted down, labeled as a legalist, and stalked like David Webb, alias Jason Bourne.
He survived and so can I by the Power of the Almighty God who gave us all of His Word, not just part of it. It really is a privilege.
Born Identity in Christ Jesus.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6
Commandments
In
Action
For this I'm hunted down, labeled as a legalist, and stalked like David Webb, alias Jason Bourne.
He survived and so can I by the Power of the Almighty God who gave us all of His Word, not just part of it. It really is a privilege.
Born Identity in Christ Jesus.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6
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You do realize Jeses himself said he was here for both Jews and gentiles and to bring them together.
Your anti-semetics is blinding you from what is in the scripture.
That or you are claiming that Paul is straight up a deceiver and deceived people into follow Christ.
I'm just pointing out the obvious, based on your posts.
I never said I'm trying to put people back into Judaism.
I never said 1 thing of that.
I'm stating that Paul carried of the same traditions of Judaism into Christianity, as did Jesus did before him.
Neither of them made a complete new system that basically bashes on Judaism, which is what you are basically stating what Christianity is.
According to the Torah and to the prophets if someone is to speak ungodly of the Torah or the prophets, that makes that one said person a false prophet.
So based off of that right there, there is no way Jesus nor Paul would be speaking against it, and they still both lived it.
Why would Paul teach on Sabbath?
Why was the a mass gathering on Pentecost(Shavuot, a feast from Leviticus) when the Spirit came down?
It's because they were still observing Torah after Jesus' death.
All the disciples and Paul were.
They were doing it because they knew there is light in it.
They were not doing it to deceive others.
Again Paul took a nazerite vow and had a gentile, or 2 gentiles take it with him.
WHY WOULD PAUL DO A NAZERITE VOW WITH GENTILES!?!?!?!? WHY!?
If Paul was not Torah observant for the sake of being Torah observant then there would been no need for him to take a nazerite vow, let alone with gentiles.
Why did he have gentiles do it?
Makes no sense based on the theology your coming from.
Along with that why would Jesus say, "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
According to Jesus, if Paul was ever teaching against the Torah, according to Jesus Paul is concidered least in the kindgom of heaven.
Paul was teaching against the legalistic side of the Torah, which is 1 basing Torah as the way to salvation, 2 taking Torah and using it as a way to make one seem more self-righteous than another, and 3 judging people based off of how they either follow or do not follow Torah.
That is what Paul was teaching against, he was not teaching against Torah itself.
Jesus was teaching against man-made traditions that the Pharisees and Sadduccees made up, He was not teaching against Torah itself.
Jews and Christians can live together, and can learn from one another.
I see it on a day to day basis.
Now again I'm not saying one has to follow the Torah nor am I putting it on other people.
I am defending the fact that overall 1 it is ok to follow, and 2 Jesus and Paul did not teach against it and they both did follow it.
Your anti-semetics is blinding you from what is in the scripture.
That or you are claiming that Paul is straight up a deceiver and deceived people into follow Christ.
I'm just pointing out the obvious, based on your posts.
I never said I'm trying to put people back into Judaism.
I never said 1 thing of that.
I'm stating that Paul carried of the same traditions of Judaism into Christianity, as did Jesus did before him.
Neither of them made a complete new system that basically bashes on Judaism, which is what you are basically stating what Christianity is.
According to the Torah and to the prophets if someone is to speak ungodly of the Torah or the prophets, that makes that one said person a false prophet.
So based off of that right there, there is no way Jesus nor Paul would be speaking against it, and they still both lived it.
Why would Paul teach on Sabbath?
Why was the a mass gathering on Pentecost(Shavuot, a feast from Leviticus) when the Spirit came down?
It's because they were still observing Torah after Jesus' death.
All the disciples and Paul were.
They were doing it because they knew there is light in it.
They were not doing it to deceive others.
Again Paul took a nazerite vow and had a gentile, or 2 gentiles take it with him.
WHY WOULD PAUL DO A NAZERITE VOW WITH GENTILES!?!?!?!? WHY!?
If Paul was not Torah observant for the sake of being Torah observant then there would been no need for him to take a nazerite vow, let alone with gentiles.
Why did he have gentiles do it?
Makes no sense based on the theology your coming from.
Along with that why would Jesus say, "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
According to Jesus, if Paul was ever teaching against the Torah, according to Jesus Paul is concidered least in the kindgom of heaven.
Paul was teaching against the legalistic side of the Torah, which is 1 basing Torah as the way to salvation, 2 taking Torah and using it as a way to make one seem more self-righteous than another, and 3 judging people based off of how they either follow or do not follow Torah.
That is what Paul was teaching against, he was not teaching against Torah itself.
Jesus was teaching against man-made traditions that the Pharisees and Sadduccees made up, He was not teaching against Torah itself.
Jews and Christians can live together, and can learn from one another.
I see it on a day to day basis.
Now again I'm not saying one has to follow the Torah nor am I putting it on other people.
I am defending the fact that overall 1 it is ok to follow, and 2 Jesus and Paul did not teach against it and they both did follow it.