Jesus 3 days and three nights.
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Scripture does not work that way. God is able to express Himself unambiguously.
While the NT was indeed written in Greek; it was, with the exception of Luke and Acts, written by people who were native speakers of Hebrew and Aramaic.
The notion that the evening and the morning are 1 day is fundamental in Jewish reckoning of time.
If three nights are specifically mentioned, they are mentioned to prevent the error which the RCC would later try to foist on the Church. Your efforts to thwart God's word to promote the idea that God does not know how to communicate is IMO unacceptable.
While the NT was indeed written in Greek; it was, with the exception of Luke and Acts, written by people who were native speakers of Hebrew and Aramaic.
The notion that the evening and the morning are 1 day is fundamental in Jewish reckoning of time.
If three nights are specifically mentioned, they are mentioned to prevent the error which the RCC would later try to foist on the Church. Your efforts to thwart God's word to promote the idea that God does not know how to communicate is IMO unacceptable.
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I posted this on the other thread as well...
it makes it so much easier for me to see it like this
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I posted this on the other thread as well...
it makes it so much easier for me to see it like this
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I posted this on the other thread as well...
it makes it so much easier for me to see it like this
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I posted this on the other thread as well...
it makes it so much easier for me to see it like this
And per that Lev.23:6-7 Scripture, the 15th (Thursday) was the "feast of unleavened bread", and that "first day" of verse 7. It was to be a "holy convocation", a high sabbath. That is the "high day" meaning of John 19:31 which was getting ready to begin at sundown. Jesus was crucified at evening before sundown, on the 14th of Abib (Wednesday).
Thursday crucifixion???
Jesus wasn't crucified on Thursday the 15th of Abib. He was crucified on the 14th of Abib per the requirement of the passover sacrifice, at evening...
Num 9:2-3
2 Let the children of Israel also keep the passover at his appointed season.
3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.
KJV
Deut 16:6
6 But at the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.
KJV
2 Chron 35:1
35:1 Moreover Josiah kept a passover unto the LORD in Jerusalem: and they killed the passover on the fourteenth day of the first month.
KJV
Thursday crucifixion???
Jesus wasn't crucified on Thursday the 15th of Abib. He was crucified on the 14th of Abib per the requirement of the passover sacrifice, at evening...
Num 9:2-3
2 Let the children of Israel also keep the passover at his appointed season.
3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.
KJV
Deut 16:6
6 But at the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name in, there thou shalt sacrifice the passover at even, at the going down of the sun, at the season that thou camest forth out of Egypt.
KJV
2 Chron 35:1
35:1 Moreover Josiah kept a passover unto the LORD in Jerusalem: and they killed the passover on the fourteenth day of the first month.
KJV
It is a little tricksie to count the three days and nights starting with the nights... but three nights had already passed, and there comes Sunday morning, day four (yes), He is risen! He could have been risen for hours, since our Saturday night, (the beginning of their Sunday) before the women arrived with their spices. We simply do not know the hour of resurrection. It does leave Sunday night a complete mystery.
Another thing Marc is failing to grasp, is...
...that because the 15th of Nisan was the "high day" sabbath per John 19:31 and Lev.23, and that's why they rushed to bury Jesus' body, and then the regular weekly sabbath began after Thursday on the 16th of Nisan which is ALWAYS Friday sunset to Saturday sunset, that's another way to know the time of passover sacrifice was Wednesday at evening. And that's the day our Lord Jesus was crucified, at the exact time the passover sacrifice was required to be killed.
...that because the 15th of Nisan was the "high day" sabbath per John 19:31 and Lev.23, and that's why they rushed to bury Jesus' body, and then the regular weekly sabbath began after Thursday on the 16th of Nisan which is ALWAYS Friday sunset to Saturday sunset, that's another way to know the time of passover sacrifice was Wednesday at evening. And that's the day our Lord Jesus was crucified, at the exact time the passover sacrifice was required to be killed.
You are building your case on one verse that indeed speaks of 3 days and 3 nights in the earth.
3 days and 3 nights need not be understood as 72 hours; and 9 scriptures which say that Jesus was to rise ON the third day indicate that the third day must be incomplete.
Jesus was crucified Thursday 14 Abib, 27 A.D.
Thursday sunset to Friday sunset = 1night and 1 day.
Friday sunset - Saturday sunset = 2 nights and 2 days
Saturday sunset - Sunday sunset = 3 nights and 3 days but the third night is part of the third day.
Since 9 verses require that the Lord arise ON the third day; interpretation of the one verse that speaks of 3 days and 3 nights must be interpreted consistent with the nine; especially since doing so is consistent with common usage.
In Jewish reckoning of time, part of a day is often regarded as a day and part of a year is often reckoned as a year.
Bible interpretation need not accomodate English usage with respect to time! It should rather accomodate the First Century Hebrew understanding of how time was reckoned since that understanding is known to us!
3 days and 3 nights need not be understood as 72 hours; and 9 scriptures which say that Jesus was to rise ON the third day indicate that the third day must be incomplete.
Jesus was crucified Thursday 14 Abib, 27 A.D.
Thursday sunset to Friday sunset = 1night and 1 day.
Friday sunset - Saturday sunset = 2 nights and 2 days
Saturday sunset - Sunday sunset = 3 nights and 3 days but the third night is part of the third day.
Since 9 verses require that the Lord arise ON the third day; interpretation of the one verse that speaks of 3 days and 3 nights must be interpreted consistent with the nine; especially since doing so is consistent with common usage.
In Jewish reckoning of time, part of a day is often regarded as a day and part of a year is often reckoned as a year.
Bible interpretation need not accomodate English usage with respect to time! It should rather accomodate the First Century Hebrew understanding of how time was reckoned since that understanding is known to us!
Yes it does matter that the 3 days and 3 nights were a complete period.
What you're not recognizing is that the "high day" of John 19:31 means only one certain day of the passover ritual, and that is the 15th of Nisan which was to be a high sabbath, a "holy convocation" per Lev.23. Thus it is a SPECIFIC reference that eliminates all guesswork. The context of John 19:31 was that the "high day" was preparing to began at sunset, so they rushed to get His body off the cross and buried before that "high day" began at sunset.
That means the day before the "high day" was the passover that was to be sacrificed at evening with the going down of the sun. And that is exactly what that timing of Jesus' giving up the ghost was, the passover evening sacrifice.
And at the other end of the period, they could not complete His burial until the 'first day of the week' which means right after the regular weekly sabbath. That means two sabbaths in that week, even as you stated on one of your posts.
So it's a very, very simple matter to go back from Sunday the first day of the week and count...
Saturday sunset back to Friday sunset = regular weekly sabbath
Friday sunset back to Thursday sunset = the "high day", the 15th of Nisan, a "holy convocation", the first day of the feast.
Thursday sunset back to Wednesday sunset = the passover; the passover to be sacrificed in the evening on the 14th just prior to sunset (which after Wed. sunset began Thursday).
This all falls apart just by examining the feast.
14th Passover = death of Christ our passover Fri
15th unleavened bread = Jesus rests in the Grave Sat
16 or morrow after the Sabbath First fruits. = Jesus raised from the dead as the first fruits of the dead. sun
50 days later penticost = out poring of the holy spirit 10 days after Jesus ascended.
Being that Jesus came to fulfill these laws it stands to reason that it happened just as it was foretold.
There is no hint of two Sabbaths happening apart in the gospels. Luke gives an orderly account and he shows that Jesus is taken one night killed the next afternoon and rises early the next morning.
Once you get that you will see the other gospels agree.
14th Passover = death of Christ our passover Fri
15th unleavened bread = Jesus rests in the Grave Sat
16 or morrow after the Sabbath First fruits. = Jesus raised from the dead as the first fruits of the dead. sun
50 days later penticost = out poring of the holy spirit 10 days after Jesus ascended.
Being that Jesus came to fulfill these laws it stands to reason that it happened just as it was foretold.
There is no hint of two Sabbaths happening apart in the gospels. Luke gives an orderly account and he shows that Jesus is taken one night killed the next afternoon and rises early the next morning.
Once you get that you will see the other gospels agree.
You'd need to be more accurate with those days...
14th Nisan - Wednesday - passover, to be sacrificed at evening just before sundown
15th Nisan - sunset - Thursday, the "high day" of John 19:31; the "holy convocation" of Lev.23., a HIGH SABBATH.
16th Nisan - sunset - Friday, the regular weekly sabbath.
17th Nisan - sunset - Saturday
18th Nisan - sunset - Sunday, first day of the week, Jesus rose, and Mary visited the tomb.
14th Nisan - Wednesday - passover, to be sacrificed at evening just before sundown
15th Nisan - sunset - Thursday, the "high day" of John 19:31; the "holy convocation" of Lev.23., a HIGH SABBATH.
16th Nisan - sunset - Friday, the regular weekly sabbath.
17th Nisan - sunset - Saturday
18th Nisan - sunset - Sunday, first day of the week, Jesus rose, and Mary visited the tomb.
Maybe this is where the issue really lies:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
What does it mean in the heart of the earth?
This could just as easily be translated, In the midst of the world. The problem is most assume that Jesus means in the grave dead for three days and three nights. But this is just that, an assumption.
Did Jesus only start to suffer at the hands of the people at his death? no it is written:
Mat 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?
Luk 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
Thursday night which was the beginning of the 14th or Passover day. the hour comes that Jesus is put in the hands of sinners. Jesus began to suffer for the sins of the world on Friday morning which we would call Thursday night.
This is his hour, remember before his hour come no one could touch Him.
Joh 7:30 Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come.
Notice the meaning behind Jonah being in the heart of the fish:
Now it is important to understand how they wrote, The main part of the story is in the middle surrounded by content.
Notice:
Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
Jon 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jon 2:3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
Jon 2:4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
Jon 2:5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
Jon 2:7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
the structure is like this in the verses:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
notice 1 and 7 are about Prayer
2 and 6 focus on being in hell in the botoms of the mountains etc
3 and 5 is about the waters surrounding Him
4 the main point is He has been cast out of Gods sight.
This is the meaning of Jonah being in the fish and this is the meaning of Christ in the midst of the earth given into the hands of evil men to suffer and it begun the night before His crucifixion. Thursday night.
From here Jesus is taken to Pilot the next morning and Herod and then he is crucified that evening on the Friday which is still the passover day. Then Christ is put in the grave just before the Seventh day Sabbath and the Feast Sabbath which occur on the same day.
Christ then rises early Sunday morning. Thus your three days and three nights and it remains true to the prophetic feasts.
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
What does it mean in the heart of the earth?
This could just as easily be translated, In the midst of the world. The problem is most assume that Jesus means in the grave dead for three days and three nights. But this is just that, an assumption.
Did Jesus only start to suffer at the hands of the people at his death? no it is written:
Mat 26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
and captains of the temple, and the elders, which were come to him, Be ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and staves?
Luk 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
Thursday night which was the beginning of the 14th or Passover day. the hour comes that Jesus is put in the hands of sinners. Jesus began to suffer for the sins of the world on Friday morning which we would call Thursday night.
This is his hour, remember before his hour come no one could touch Him.
Joh 7:30 Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come.
Notice the meaning behind Jonah being in the heart of the fish:
Now it is important to understand how they wrote, The main part of the story is in the middle surrounded by content.
Notice:
Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
Jon 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
Jon 2:3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
Jon 2:4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
Jon 2:5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
Jon 2:7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
the structure is like this in the verses:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
notice 1 and 7 are about Prayer
2 and 6 focus on being in hell in the botoms of the mountains etc
3 and 5 is about the waters surrounding Him
4 the main point is He has been cast out of Gods sight.
This is the meaning of Jonah being in the fish and this is the meaning of Christ in the midst of the earth given into the hands of evil men to suffer and it begun the night before His crucifixion. Thursday night.
From here Jesus is taken to Pilot the next morning and Herod and then he is crucified that evening on the Friday which is still the passover day. Then Christ is put in the grave just before the Seventh day Sabbath and the Feast Sabbath which occur on the same day.
Christ then rises early Sunday morning. Thus your three days and three nights and it remains true to the prophetic feasts.