Is the Devil bound right now...?

[ukok102nak]

You cannot blame the act of terrorism, that just occurred in Paris, on Satan being loosed from his prison.

Jesus, Himself, told us in Mat 24 that terrible things would occur BEFORE the end comes, and BEFORE the release of the 'abomination of desolation' (i.e. Satan).

Jesus lists-out many things occurring BEFORE the release of Satan....false prophets, wars, rumors of wars, nation set against nation, famine, plagues, earthquakes, the killing of Christians, etc...

So....what we are seeing today IS to be expected, per scripture.


But....

When Satan is unbound, we will see, for a brief period, 'great affliction, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.'

Everything going on in the world today has been seen played-out in various forms for thousands of years.


Clearly, any student of scripture can see that Satan is bound today.

Study your scriptures, and thank God that Satan is currently bound!

Revelation: 9. 14. one saying to the sixth angel that had one trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates.
15. And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
~:» it is you who should study the scriptures and
WE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OWN SCRIPTURES FOR WE DO NOT OWNED THE WORDS OF GOD . ...

:rofl: And what makes you say that Satan being loosed from his prison is
our view unto the said act of terrorism that happened on paris . ...
:read:
1 Corinthians 14:33
For Hashem is no Elohei haMevucha (the G-d of Confusion, Tohu); He is Elohei haShalom, and this is so in all the kehillot of the kedoshim. DISORDERLY SPEECH BY NEVIIM (14:30) OR SPEAKERS IN LESHONOT (14:28) OR ANY OTHER SPEECH THAT BRINGS TOHU V'VOHU (CHAOS--BERESHIS 1:2) INTO THE KEHILLAH MUST BE REPLACED WITH SILENCE, PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF WIVES WHO "GO OVER THE HEAD OF THEIR MAN" (THEIR "ADAM" OR HUSBAND--BERESHIS 2:16-17; 3:1-6), SCANDALOUSLY REMOVING THE SIGN OF TZNIUS (MODESTY/PIETY) AND KENI'AH (SUBMISSION) AS THEY DARE NOT JUST TO BREAK A DRESS CODE (11:2-16) BUT BRAZENLY CREATE A NISSAYON (TEMPTATION) WHERE SALACIOUSNESS AND MORAL MUTINY CAN ARISE IN THE KAHAL, EVEN AS THEY "GO OVER THE HEAD OF THEIR MAN," THEIR "HEAD" (11:5) WHO IS THE KOHEN OF HIS BAIS, AND BLURT OUT BOLD AND SHAMEFUL WORDS NOT OF THE RUACH HAKODESH (2:13) WHICH SHOULD BE SILENCED, AS OPPOSED TO WORDS OF THE RUACH HAKODESH THAT WOMEN GIVE AS DIVREI NEVU'AH (11:5); HERE IT IS NOT SHA'UL'S DESIRE TO LIMIT THE AVODAS KODESH OF NASHIM, BUT RATHER HIS RABBINIC INTENTION IS TO LOCK THE DOOR ON WHAT COMES KNOCKING IN REV. 2:20-23, SINCE "JEZEBEL" (IZEVEL) SINNED AGAINST TZNIUS AND KENI'AH AND SILENCE TO OUT-OF-ORDER AND UNSPIRITUAL SPEECH BEFORE SHE TOOK FURTHER STEPS DOWNWARD INTO THE DUNGEON OF GEHINNOM, TAKING THE KEHILLAH WITH HER.

:now: and from the start we remember that we were asking someone here to explain if what is the first thing to come . ...
:think: is it the great tribulation or the bounding of satan :hmm:

:happy: thank God that until now no one dare to answer it and that really shows who are unto the truth and
unto their own make believed interpretation only . ...

:glasses: as saulo este pablo what we mean paul say
:read:
1 Corinthians 15:51
Hinei! I speak a sod (mystery) to you: we will not all sleep the sleep of the mesim. But we will all be changed.
CONTINYE THE OTHER VERSES FROM THIS CHAPTER AND YOU WILL KNOW THE ANSWER


God bless us all always


:ty:

 

[ukok102nak]

You cannot blame the act of terrorism, that just occurred in Paris, on Satan being loosed from his prison.

Jesus, Himself, told us in Mat 24 that terrible things would occur BEFORE the end comes, and BEFORE the release of the 'abomination of desolation' (i.e. Satan).

Jesus lists-out many things occurring BEFORE the release of Satan....false prophets, wars, rumors of wars, nation set against nation, famine, plagues, earthquakes, the killing of Christians, etc...

So....what we are seeing today IS to be expected, per scripture.


But....

When Satan is unbound, we will see, for a brief period, 'great affliction, such as has not happened from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be.'

Everything going on in the world today has been seen played-out in various forms for thousands of years.


Clearly, any student of scripture can see that Satan is bound today.

Study your scriptures, and thank God that Satan is currently bound!

Revelation: 9. 14. one saying to the sixth angel that had one trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates.
15. And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
~:» it is you who should study the scriptures and
WE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OWN SCRIPTURES FOR WE DO NOT OWNED THE WORDS OF GOD . ...

:rofl: And what makes you say that Satan being loosed from his prison is
our view unto the said act of terrorism that happened on paris . ...
:read:
1 Corinthians 14:33
For Hashem is no Elohei haMevucha (the G-d of Confusion, Tohu); He is Elohei haShalom, and this is so in all the kehillot of the kedoshim. DISORDERLY SPEECH BY NEVIIM (14:30) OR SPEAKERS IN LESHONOT (14:28) OR ANY OTHER SPEECH THAT BRINGS TOHU V'VOHU (CHAOS--BERESHIS 1:2) INTO THE KEHILLAH MUST BE REPLACED WITH SILENCE, PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF WIVES WHO "GO OVER THE HEAD OF THEIR MAN" (THEIR "ADAM" OR HUSBAND--BERESHIS 2:16-17; 3:1-6), SCANDALOUSLY REMOVING THE SIGN OF TZNIUS (MODESTY/PIETY) AND KENI'AH (SUBMISSION) AS THEY DARE NOT JUST TO BREAK A DRESS CODE (11:2-16) BUT BRAZENLY CREATE A NISSAYON (TEMPTATION) WHERE SALACIOUSNESS AND MORAL MUTINY CAN ARISE IN THE KAHAL, EVEN AS THEY "GO OVER THE HEAD OF THEIR MAN," THEIR "HEAD" (11:5) WHO IS THE KOHEN OF HIS BAIS, AND BLURT OUT BOLD AND SHAMEFUL WORDS NOT OF THE RUACH HAKODESH (2:13) WHICH SHOULD BE SILENCED, AS OPPOSED TO WORDS OF THE RUACH HAKODESH THAT WOMEN GIVE AS DIVREI NEVU'AH (11:5); HERE IT IS NOT SHA'UL'S DESIRE TO LIMIT THE AVODAS KODESH OF NASHIM, BUT RATHER HIS RABBINIC INTENTION IS TO LOCK THE DOOR ON WHAT COMES KNOCKING IN REV. 2:20-23, SINCE "JEZEBEL" (IZEVEL) SINNED AGAINST TZNIUS AND KENI'AH AND SILENCE TO OUT-OF-ORDER AND UNSPIRITUAL SPEECH BEFORE SHE TOOK FURTHER STEPS DOWNWARD INTO THE DUNGEON OF GEHINNOM, TAKING THE KEHILLAH WITH HER.

:now: and from the start we remember that we were asking someone here to explain if what is the first thing to come . ...
:think: is it the great tribulation or the bounding of satan :hmm:

:happy: thank God that until now no one dare to answer it and that really shows who are unto the truth and
unto their own make believed interpretation only . ...

:glasses: as saulo este pablo what we mean paul say
:read:
1 Corinthians 15:51
Hinei! I speak a sod (mystery) to you: we will not all sleep the sleep of the mesim. But we will all be changed.
CONTINUE THE OTHER VERSES FROM THIS CHAPTER AND YOU WILL KNOW THE ANSWER


God bless us all always


:ty:

 

[Bowman]

:rofl: And what makes you say that Satan being loosed from his prison is
our view unto the said act of terrorism that happened on paris . ...

Everything that we see in the world today is reflected in Mat 24 until you get to Mat 24.15, when Satan is loosed from his prison.

 

[VCO]

Revelation: 9. 14. one saying to the sixth angel that had one trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates.
15. And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men.
~:» it is you who should study the scriptures and
WE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT OUR OWN SCRIPTURES FOR WE DO NOT OWNED THE WORDS OF GOD . ...

:rofl: And what makes you say that Satan being loosed from his prison is
our view unto the said act of terrorism that happened on paris . ...

and from the start we remember that we were asking someone here to explain if what is the first thing to come . ...
:think: is it the great tribulation or the bounding of satan :hmm:

:happy: thank God that until now no one dare to answer it and that really shows who are unto truth and
unto their own make believed interpretation only . ...

God bless us all always

:ty:

A Bible Teacher that I spiritually grew up listening to, once said:
"If you do not run head on into Satan once in awhile in your Christian walk;
you had better look around and make sure you are not going the same direction
as Satan."

Sadly, those who believe Satan is already bound NEVER RUN HEAD ON INTO HIM.

 

[ukok102nak]

Everything that we see in the world today is reflected in Mat 24 until you get to Mat 24.15, when Satan is loosed from his prison.

:smoke: and if you would only continue to
:read:
Matthew 24:21
For then will be Tzarah Gedolah (Great Tribulation*) such as has not been from Reshit HaOlam (Beginning of the World) until now nor will it by any means happen again.
Matthew 24:22
And if those days were not cut short, kol basar (all flesh) would not be saved. But, on account of the Kedoshim, the Bechirim (Chosen Ones), those days will be cut short.
~:›REMEMBER THAT THE THINGS THAT IS WRITTEN IN DANIEL MUST BE SEEN BY THE NAKED EYES LITERALY . ...

:now: where you could read the part that satan is bound before
the great tribulation happens
or after the great tribulation is
satan will be bound?

thank you very much :happy:

God bless us all always

 

[ukok102nak]

A Bible Teacher that I spiritually grew up listening to, once said:
"If you do not run head on into Satan once in awhile in your Christian walk;
you had better look around and make sure you are not going the same direction
as Satan."

Sadly, those who believe Satan is already bound NEVER RUN HEAD ON INTO HIM.

:smoke: were just making an example here
that the scriptures are accurate in giving details to all
who wants to know the truth . ...

also we want everyone not to be decieved by believing that
satan is bound now because what will happen next is the people who believed in that doctrine shall only blame something that is been used by the evil itself
and just like what happens to any situations that the master mind always
find its way to escaped from the crimes that he imposesed to his minions but
until people realise that it is him the one who plans all this things then it is
the only time people realise that all of us been manipulated by the one who themselves thought is already bound . ...

God bless us all always

:ty:

 

[valiant]

A Bible Teacher that I spiritually grew up listening to, once said:
"If you do not run head on into Satan once in awhile in your Christian walk;
you had better look around and make sure you are not going the same direction
as Satan."

Sadly, those who believe Satan is already bound NEVER RUN HEAD ON INTO HIM.

LOL do you really think that Satan has time to bother about you? You are left to his minor underlings.

 

[valiant]

A Bible Teacher that I spiritually grew up listening to, once said:
"If you do not run head on into Satan once in awhile in your Christian walk;
you had better look around and make sure you are not going the same direction
as Satan."

Sadly, those who believe Satan is already bound NEVER RUN HEAD ON INTO HIM.

which proves that he is bound. It is just that you imagine you run into him when you are simply dealing with a minor official.

 

[valiant]

Originally Posted by valiant

How then is Jesus NOW the ruler of the kings of the earth ? (Rev 1.5). How is it that GOD REIGNS NOW ? (Psalm 97.1 ff).

DiscipleDave said

YOU, say these things, SCriptures do not teach those things.

'John to the seven churches --- from Jesus Christ --- the ruler of the kings of the earth'

'The LORD reigns, let the multitude of the islands be glad' (Psalm 97.1)

'The LORD reigns. -- He is high above all the peoples (Psalm 99.1-2)

Looks to me as though Scripture says them? If you can't be honest about this how can I trust you on anything?

 

[VCO]

LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN

For those who desire to learn and understand the TRUTH:

Frequently, I hear the Biographical Story of Lazarus and the Rich Man, FALSELY labeled the Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man. Absolutely no where in Scripture does it use the term "Parable" associated with this IMPORTANT Biographical Story.

Those who do not want to believe the absolute TRUTHS in this Biogaphical Story will falsely call it a PARABLE, so that they can falsely justify their ignoring those TRUTHS.

JESUS NEVER NAMED A PERSON IN A PARABLE:

Malachi 3:6 (NIV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] "I the LORD do not change.
So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.

Luke 16:19-31 (ESV) [SUP]19 [/SUP] “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’
[SUP]25 [/SUP] But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house—
[SUP]28 [/SUP] for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’
[SUP]29 [/SUP] But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
[SUP]30 [/SUP] And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’
[SUP]31 [/SUP] He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”

Now the KJV and a few others use that term Jewish Term: "Abraham's Bosom" in verses 22-23. That is a Jewish expression for walking very close to someone's side, perhaps even arm in arm, AND THIS PRACTICE CONTINUES TODAY:

And it common practice among close friends in many countries:

THEREFORE, LAZARUS IS NOT SLEEPING, BUT ACTUALLY WALKING VERY CLOSE TO ABRAHAM.

So why did JESUS name LAZARUS and not the RICH MAN?

The way Jesus spoke of Lazarus it was obvious that most of the crowd knew exactly who he was talking about, Lazarus would have been begging from everyone that passed by him on the street, daily. AND the logical reason that Jesus did not NAME the Rich Man, is one or ALL of the five brothers were in the crowd listening to JESUS. Jesus being courteous, did not NAME their brother. BUT NOTE, it states FIVE BROTHERS SPECIFICALLY. Had it only be a parable, it would have only stated BROTHERS. The Specific Number would not have been relevant. THAT IS A BIG CLUE THAT THIS TRULY IS A BIOGRAPHICAL STORY AND NOT A PARABLE.

THEREFORE, the spirit of the dead departs as Ps. 146:4 says, and the spirits of the unrighteous go to the torment of Hades, awaiting the final JUDGEMENT DAY after their bodily resurrection, where they will be sentenced to ETERNITY in the Lake of Fire (HELL). Likewise the spirits of the righteous go to Heaven, where Lazarus's spirit was seen walking with the spirit of Moses, arm in arm, and soon, Jesus Himself Joined them.

NEED MORE PROOF, what happened on the Mount of Transfiguration, VALIDATES, the SPIRITS OF MEN DO NOT SLEEP IN THE GRAVE.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Re: LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN

Good day VCO,

Regarding the event of the rich man and Lazarus, I have come across many people myself who in order to support their beliefs, refer to this event as a parable. However, scripture is very clear in 2 Cor.5:8 and Phil 1:23 that at the time of death, for the believer the spirit immediately departs and goes to be in the presence of the Lord. On the other hand, when the unrighteous die, their spirits are taken to Hades where that rich man went and where he will remain until he is resurrected out at the great white throne judgment.

You are correct in that, parables never use actual names and locations, but use symbolism to represent the literal. That being said, we have mentioned in this event, Abraham, Lazarus, Moses, the prophets, the rich man and the actual location of Hades, ergo, this is not a parable. For those who believe in soul sleep, these are those who attempt to explain the rich man and Lazarus as a parable and that because it kills their position on this.

Suffice to say, the rich man and Lazarus is not the only proof that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death. We also have Moses and Elijah appearing with Jesus on the mount where in Luke's version it states that they were discussing with Christ his coming departure (Luke 9:30-31). We also have Jesus telling the man crucified with him, (the one on the right I'm guessing), that he would be with Jesus in paradise that very day. Regarding this, it is amazing how low people will stoop in order to defend their positions, for regarding this, they will tell you that the comma is in the wrong place in the verse, as demonstrated in the example below:

True verse: "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

False verse: "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise."

They distort the verse by claiming that the comma should be placed after the word "today" instead of where every major translator places it, which is after the word "you." The first verse focuses on their being in paradise that very day and the false verse puts the focus on giving him this information that very day, with being in paradise being at some unknown time. The false verse makes Jesus sound like a "Shakespeare in the park" play. The true verse demonstrates that though Jesus and the thief died before sunset, that they would be in paradise, which would demonstrate that though their bodies were up on the earth, their spirits/souls were somewhere else.

The fifth seal is another good proof demonstrating that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death. For at the opening of the fifth seal we have those who will have been killed for the testimony they had maintained and these dead guys are having a conversation and are given white robes to wear and are told to wait a little longer. Kind of hard to do when you sleeping. Here is another verse that is overlooked as proof that the spirit/soul is conscious after death:

"But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.

When the angel is calling out for anyone who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals, it would be superfluous to mention those under the earth if they were in soul sleep, for that alone regardless of worthiness, would keep them from being able to open the scroll. Then we have Phil.2:9 which says:

"Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,to the glory of God the Father.

Kind of hard to bow the knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord when your soul sleeping. This again would demonstrate conscious awareness of the spirit/soul after death.

Conclusion: Whenever the word is used to in reference to those who have died as "sleeping" it is in reference to the body only. For as we have seen, scripture demonstrates that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death for both the righteous and the unrighteous. The only way that an expositor could come to the conclusion that the spirit sleeps after death, would be to circumvent and/or distort all of the scriptures that demonstrate to the contrary.

 

[VCO]

Re: LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN

Good day VCO,

Regarding the event of the rich man and Lazarus, I have come across many people myself who in order to support their beliefs, refer to this event as a parable. However, scripture is very clear in 2 Cor.5:8 and Phil 1:23 that at the time of death, for the believer the spirit immediately departs and goes to be in the presence of the Lord. On the other hand, when the unrighteous die, their spirits are taken to Hades where that rich man went and where he will remain until he is resurrected out at the great white throne judgment.

You are correct in that, parables never use actual names and locations, but use symbolism to represent the literal. That being said, we have mentioned in this event, Abraham, Lazarus, Moses, the prophets, the rich man and the actual location of Hades, ergo, this is not a parable. For those who believe in soul sleep, these are those who attempt to explain the rich man and Lazarus as a parable and that because it kills their position on this.

Suffice to say, the rich man and Lazarus is not the only proof that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death. We also have Moses and Elijah appearing with Jesus on the mount where in Luke's version it states that they were discussing with Christ his coming departure (Luke 9:30-31). We also have Jesus telling the man crucified with him, (the one on the right I'm guessing), that he would be with Jesus in paradise that very day. Regarding this, it is amazing how low people will stoop in order to defend their positions, for regarding this, they will tell you that the comma is in the wrong place in the verse, as demonstrated in the example below:

True verse: "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

False verse: "Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise."

They distort the verse by claiming that the comma should be placed after the word "today" instead of where every major translator places it, which is after the word "you." The first verse focuses on their being in paradise that very day and the false verse puts the focus on giving him this information that very day, with being in paradise being at some unknown time. The false verse makes Jesus sound like a "Shakespeare in the park" play. The true verse demonstrates that though Jesus and the thief died before sunset, that they would be in paradise, which would demonstrate that though their bodies were up on the earth, their spirits/souls were somewhere else.

The fifth seal is another good proof demonstrating that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death. For at the opening of the fifth seal we have those who will have been killed for the testimony they had maintained and these dead guys are having a conversation and are given white robes to wear and are told to wait a little longer. Kind of hard to do when you sleeping. Here is another verse that is overlooked as proof that the spirit/soul is conscious after death:

"But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it.

When the angel is calling out for anyone who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals, it would be superfluous to mention those under the earth if they were in soul sleep, for that alone regardless of worthiness, would keep them from being able to open the scroll. Then we have Phil.2:9 which says:

"Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,to the glory of God the Father.

Kind of hard to bow the knee and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord when your soul sleeping. This again would demonstrate conscious awareness of the spirit/soul after death.

Conclusion: Whenever the word is used to in reference to those who have died as "sleeping" it is in reference to the body only. For as we have seen, scripture demonstrates that the spirit/soul is conscious and aware after death for both the righteous and the unrighteous. The only way that an expositor could come to the conclusion that the spirit sleeps after death, would be to circumvent and/or distort all of the scriptures that demonstrate to the contrary.

Thank you! You just triggered, yet another memory of one Dr. John MacArthur's sermons from the 80s.

Within it, he explained how we can biblically PROVE that Paradise, is the Eternal Dwelling Place of GOD.

2 Corinthians 12:2-4 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a man was caught up to the third heaven.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And I know how such a man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows—
[SUP]4 [/SUP] was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.

Revelation 2:7 (ASV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches. To him that overcometh, to him will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God.

Revelation 22:1-2 (NLT)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Then the angel showed me a river with the water of life, clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] It flowed down the center of the main street. On each side of the river grew a tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, with a fresh crop each month. The leaves were used for medicine to heal the nations.

Luke 23:42-43 (ESV)
[SUP]42 [/SUP] And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”
[SUP]43 [/SUP] And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise .”


THE THREE HEAVENS:

THIRD HEAVEN: = The Eternal Dwelling Place of GOD

Psalm 11:4 (ASV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Jehovah is in his holy temple; Jehovah, his throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.

Psalm 123:1 (NIV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] I lift up my eyes to you, to you whose throne is in heaven.

Hebrews 8:1-2 (NIV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by man.

THE SECOND HEAVEN: = The Universe

Genesis 26:4 (NKJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And I will make your descendants multiply as the stars of heaven; I will give to your descendants all these lands; and in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed;

Isaiah 13:10 (NKJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For the stars of heaven and their constellations Will not give their light; The sun will be darkened in its going forth, And the moon will not cause its light to shine.

Mark 13:24-25 (YLT)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] `But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
[SUP]25 [/SUP] and the stars of the heaven shall be falling, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.

FIRST HEAVEN: = The ATMOSPHERE

Genesis 1:20 (ASV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

2 Samuel 21:10 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Rizpah, Aiah’s daughter, took sackcloth and spread it out for herself on the rock from the beginning of the harvest until the rain poured down from heaven on the bodies. She kept the birds of the sky from them by day and the wild animals by night.

Daniel 2:38 (NKJV)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all--you are this head of gold.


IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE THIRD HEAVEN IS PARADISE!

 

[Bowman]

:smoke: and if you would only continue to
:read:
Matthew 24:21
For then will be Tzarah Gedolah (Great Tribulation*) such as has not been from Reshit HaOlam (Beginning of the World) until now nor will it by any means happen again.
Matthew 24:22
And if those days were not cut short, kol basar (all flesh) would not be saved. But, on account of the Kedoshim, the Bechirim (Chosen Ones), those days will be cut short.
~:›REMEMBER THAT THE THINGS THAT IS WRITTEN IN DANIEL MUST BE SEEN BY THE NAKED EYES LITERALY . ...

:now: where you could read the part that satan is bound before
the great tribulation happens
or after the great tribulation is
satan will be bound?

thank you very much :happy:

God bless us all always

The 'great tribulation' is not a future event...it merely refers to the trials of this life, and is used in the context of the Righteous as they relate to The Cross.

 

[valiant]

The 'great tribulation' is not a future event...it merely refers to the trials of this life, and is used in the context of the Righteous as they relate to The Cross.

True. Great tribulation in MATTH 24 was the great tribulation suffered by the Jews from 70 AD to the present day. Nothing has been or can ever be like it. Great tribulation in Rev 7 refers back to Rev 2.20-22 and refers to the great tribulation which the church will face throughout history, from John's time onwards.

 

[ukok102nak]

The 'great tribulation' is not a future event...it merely refers to the trials of this life, and is used in the context of the Righteous as they relate to The Cross.

:smoke: brother :happy:
please
:read:
Matthew 24:21
For then will be Tzarah Gedolah (Great Tribulation*) such as has not been from Reshit HaOlam (Beginning of the World) until now nor will it by any means happen again.
~:» THIS IS THE ONLY THING we will remember for since the beggining of the world until now nor will it by any means happen again.
and this words are not our words but the words of our saviour
when the time comes for us (the humanities) to behold everything
that is within the truth about salvation from our lord jesus christ . . .....

God bless us all always

:ty:

 

[valiant]

:smoke: brother :happy:
please
:read:
Matthew 24:21
For then will be Tzarah Gedolah (Great Tribulation*) such as has not been from Reshit HaOlam (Beginning of the World) until now nor will it by any means happen again.
~:» THIS IS THE ONLY THING we will remember for since the beggining of the world until now nor will it by any means happen again.
and this words are not our words but the words of our saviour
when the time comes for us (the humanities) to behold everything
that is within the truth about salvation from our lord jesus christ . . .....

God bless us all always

:ty:

As mentioned above great tribulation in MATTH 24 was the great tribulation suffered by the Jews from 70 AD to the present day. Nothing has been or can ever be like it. It has been long and arduous. Great tribulation in Rev 7 refers back to Rev 2.20-22 and refers to the great tribulation which the church will face throughout history, from John's time onwards.

Neither refer to great tribulation at the end of the age.

reshith ha olam does not mean the beginning of the world LOL Stick to languages you know

 

[VCO]

which proves that he is bound. It is just that you imagine you run into him when you are simply dealing with a minor official.

WRONG, the rest of US run head on into the Devil on a fairly regular basis, as we strive to do the Will of GOD. The more strive to do GOD's will in our lives, the more our adversary the Devil strives to knock us down. You do not, because you are not threat to Satan.

1 Peter 5:8 (ASV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about,
seeking whom he may devour,

Ephesians 6:13-18 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Wherefore take up the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
[SUP]16 [/SUP] withal taking up the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one.

James 4:7 (NIV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
[SUP]18 [/SUP] with all prayer and supplication praying at all seasons in the Spirit, and watching thereunto in all perseverance and supplication for all the saints,


I repeat, your beliefs are NO THREAT to the Devil, so you NEVER run head on into him.

 

[49]

How many sticks have been broken and worn out beating this horse? The scriptures must be worn out as well. Seems like a draw to me .

 

[VCO]

How many sticks have been broken and worn out beating this horse? The scriptures must be worn out as well. Seems like a draw to me .

Not even close. Many of us believe what the Bible actually says, and a few believe something else. Look at the Poll results at the top.

 

[Bowman]

WRONG, the rest of US run head on into the Devil on a fairly regular basis, as we strive to do the Will of GOD. The more strive to do GOD's will in our lives, the more our adversary the Devil strives to knock us down. You do not, because you are not threat to Satan.

Dead.

Wrong.

If you had 'run head on' with Satan then he would have sifted you like wheat - just like scripture says.

Do you remember being a blithering rag-doll during your encounter?