I can disprove god
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2 Cor4:4
2…3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake.…
Can prove what the scripture say's is true.
I would suggest you start going to church and hearing the word and be transformed into the kingdom of God.
And ask God for wisdom in understanding.
Lord open his eyes in Jesus name, draw him to your light.
2…3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake.…
Can prove what the scripture say's is true.
I would suggest you start going to church and hearing the word and be transformed into the kingdom of God.
And ask God for wisdom in understanding.
Lord open his eyes in Jesus name, draw him to your light.
well I do have a question for you but I don't know about this whole forfeiting thing because I don't think we are in a competition are we?
What I want to ask you about is the God particle. Scientists have debating about the creation of the universe with Christians for a long time. Now before the big bang happened and there was nothing apparently there was a thing is what gave all matter mass and is what in the end created the big bang.
According to science this microscopic particle was always in existence it had no beginning it was just always there.
However this contradicts the way science works, in our universe nothing has ever existed out of nothing it always had to be created or produced in some way or by someone. Our God is not like this as he doesn't reside in our universe he exists beyond space and time and so he doesn't have a beginning or end and this explains our (God particle) but the God Particle that scientists believe in doesn't add up.
So then if you can explain why and how this God particle could have always existed without being created in a universe where nothing just comes out of nothing then I may believe you in saying you can disprove God
What I want to ask you about is the God particle. Scientists have debating about the creation of the universe with Christians for a long time. Now before the big bang happened and there was nothing apparently there was a thing is what gave all matter mass and is what in the end created the big bang.
According to science this microscopic particle was always in existence it had no beginning it was just always there.
However this contradicts the way science works, in our universe nothing has ever existed out of nothing it always had to be created or produced in some way or by someone. Our God is not like this as he doesn't reside in our universe he exists beyond space and time and so he doesn't have a beginning or end and this explains our (God particle) but the God Particle that scientists believe in doesn't add up.
So then if you can explain why and how this God particle could have always existed without being created in a universe where nothing just comes out of nothing then I may believe you in saying you can disprove God
It seems to me that you have no clue what you are talking about. You can not disprove God's existence anymore than I can prove his existence. You wrote you can disprove every argument for God's existence. I could do that because there is no empirical evidence. Every argument for AND against God's existence can be dismissed logically. Your claim "I can disprove god" is COMPLETELY false. God's existence can not be disproven factually any more than it can be proven factually. The only thing we can prove here is your arrogance. IT requires arrogance to think that you are more perceptive than most of the people in the world and you claim to be able to do what no person ever has. Your arrogance can be proven easily in a court of law using your own words against you. I have no interest in argument but I am absolutely interested in; and continually seeking truth. Prove me wrong.
I can speak of why I believe in God but why I believe isnt an argument for God's existence but instead a reason for my faith. Some of the reasons for my faith are actually fact based to the extent that they can be proven by any scientific method applied. The rest of the reasons are personal experience that I can testify to but can not be proven empirically. Your lack of faith does not prove or disprove anything just as my reasons for my faith do not prove God's existence. This is just a small part of what you do not understand. Faith is believing in things that can NOT be proven. However, God does not require an illogical or fantastical leap of faith but instead just a very tiny logical step.
My only purpose in this response is a combination of truth, love and humility. You have posted lies. The very title of your post is a lie. Here is another quote from you: "You believe in a.man in the sky whose sexist and cruel." This is yet another lie. IN fact I find it facinating that you think you understand what other people believe. More evidence of arrogance and yet another completely false statement. God as revealed by scripture is: love, truth, life. Scripture also clearly details, "God is not a man." The God revealed in scripture is perfect and perfectly just. Any person, such as myself, who does have faith and believes in God as described in scripture, does not believe in, " a man in the sky who is sexist and cruel" but a God who is omniscient who loves and longs for each being He created, including you.
Although this is not proof God exists there is evidence within this post that words from scripture are true. This is a different discussion but I think it fits here. Scripture reveals, "let God be true and every man a liar" I admit freely that I am a liar and we can see from your post that you are a liar too. Scripture also admonishes man to humble ourselves, "humble yourselves before one another" which would not be necessary if people were not full of arrogance. Here too I can freely admit I am full of arrogance and I practice humility (because it does not come naturally) Both of these things also prove statements in scripture describing the nature of a man. Man is evil, "there is nothing good in a man" and "if you then though you are evil..." These are similarities between me and the author of this post and although this doesn't prove scripture is perfectly true, it does show there is much truth in scripture.
You are an atheist. I am Christian. My faith is founded on fact. What is your foundation? My faith is based on the laws of God and the prophecies as written in the old testament and new. I will gladly concede, no this does not factually prove the existence of God, if that were possible then faith would not be required. However, your faith is far superior to mine. You have faith that no god exists. What factual evidence do you have? I can however prove the utter foolishness of your own argument and this entire post. All we have to do is reverse it. Examine this:
I can prove God exists.
I am a Christian. As long as you don't just ask me questions I can disprove every argument you present against the existence of God.
Go ahead, give it a shot. The problem is, there is no empirical evidence either way. Being able to provide an argument against or an argument for does not prove anything.
We could instead talk about your motivation. Why does an atheist cross the road. I am certain the chicken knows the answer to that question. (that was a joke) But joking aside, some people enjoy strife. Some people like to argue in order to feel superior to others. Still other people enjoy putting other people down...lifting themselves up in their own minds by standing on the proverbial backs of all those they have slain. I expect your motivation is far less than altruistic but the one reason i brought it up is this: I don't care WHY you are here only THAT you are.
Because you are here I have this singular opportunity to do what I want which is, to LOVE you. Even most "christians" would say calling someone a liar and arrogant isnt loving its judgment. I don't see things the same way as most "christians". Actually there is judgment that scripture calls us to do and judgment that scripture warns us against doing. Simply put, not all judgment is equal. It is the judgment of condemnation that we are warned against. For example, If i were to say; "you are going to hell because you are an atheist." That is what we are warned against doing. Or if i were to say, "you will be condemned because you are arrogant and a liar" that is the judgment we are not qualified to make. However to simply make an observation: "you killed that girl therefore you are a murderer." This is a judgment we are not only qualified to make but also advised to be careful to do. LOVE rejoices in the truth. The truth here is, the author is just as human as I am except that I am worse. IN fact, for many years I too was certain God did not exist.
So, ya i am not really participating in the argument you've presented in this post because nothing can be proven either way however I have a real challenge for you DarkMatter. My challenge can be proven so, from your position of no God perhaps you can prove to me how a man can know the future hundreds of years before he was born. I don't even know what will happen tomorrow. I certainly can not write about an event that will happen hundreds of years after my death with any hope of being in the ballpark much less being 100% accurate. So why don't you explain to me, how men just like us were able to do that without the guidance of a power beyond themselves? I look forward to your reply.
I can speak of why I believe in God but why I believe isnt an argument for God's existence but instead a reason for my faith. Some of the reasons for my faith are actually fact based to the extent that they can be proven by any scientific method applied. The rest of the reasons are personal experience that I can testify to but can not be proven empirically. Your lack of faith does not prove or disprove anything just as my reasons for my faith do not prove God's existence. This is just a small part of what you do not understand. Faith is believing in things that can NOT be proven. However, God does not require an illogical or fantastical leap of faith but instead just a very tiny logical step.
My only purpose in this response is a combination of truth, love and humility. You have posted lies. The very title of your post is a lie. Here is another quote from you: "You believe in a.man in the sky whose sexist and cruel." This is yet another lie. IN fact I find it facinating that you think you understand what other people believe. More evidence of arrogance and yet another completely false statement. God as revealed by scripture is: love, truth, life. Scripture also clearly details, "God is not a man." The God revealed in scripture is perfect and perfectly just. Any person, such as myself, who does have faith and believes in God as described in scripture, does not believe in, " a man in the sky who is sexist and cruel" but a God who is omniscient who loves and longs for each being He created, including you.
Although this is not proof God exists there is evidence within this post that words from scripture are true. This is a different discussion but I think it fits here. Scripture reveals, "let God be true and every man a liar" I admit freely that I am a liar and we can see from your post that you are a liar too. Scripture also admonishes man to humble ourselves, "humble yourselves before one another" which would not be necessary if people were not full of arrogance. Here too I can freely admit I am full of arrogance and I practice humility (because it does not come naturally) Both of these things also prove statements in scripture describing the nature of a man. Man is evil, "there is nothing good in a man" and "if you then though you are evil..." These are similarities between me and the author of this post and although this doesn't prove scripture is perfectly true, it does show there is much truth in scripture.
You are an atheist. I am Christian. My faith is founded on fact. What is your foundation? My faith is based on the laws of God and the prophecies as written in the old testament and new. I will gladly concede, no this does not factually prove the existence of God, if that were possible then faith would not be required. However, your faith is far superior to mine. You have faith that no god exists. What factual evidence do you have? I can however prove the utter foolishness of your own argument and this entire post. All we have to do is reverse it. Examine this:
I can prove God exists.
I am a Christian. As long as you don't just ask me questions I can disprove every argument you present against the existence of God.
Go ahead, give it a shot. The problem is, there is no empirical evidence either way. Being able to provide an argument against or an argument for does not prove anything.
We could instead talk about your motivation. Why does an atheist cross the road. I am certain the chicken knows the answer to that question. (that was a joke) But joking aside, some people enjoy strife. Some people like to argue in order to feel superior to others. Still other people enjoy putting other people down...lifting themselves up in their own minds by standing on the proverbial backs of all those they have slain. I expect your motivation is far less than altruistic but the one reason i brought it up is this: I don't care WHY you are here only THAT you are.
Because you are here I have this singular opportunity to do what I want which is, to LOVE you. Even most "christians" would say calling someone a liar and arrogant isnt loving its judgment. I don't see things the same way as most "christians". Actually there is judgment that scripture calls us to do and judgment that scripture warns us against doing. Simply put, not all judgment is equal. It is the judgment of condemnation that we are warned against. For example, If i were to say; "you are going to hell because you are an atheist." That is what we are warned against doing. Or if i were to say, "you will be condemned because you are arrogant and a liar" that is the judgment we are not qualified to make. However to simply make an observation: "you killed that girl therefore you are a murderer." This is a judgment we are not only qualified to make but also advised to be careful to do. LOVE rejoices in the truth. The truth here is, the author is just as human as I am except that I am worse. IN fact, for many years I too was certain God did not exist.
So, ya i am not really participating in the argument you've presented in this post because nothing can be proven either way however I have a real challenge for you DarkMatter. My challenge can be proven so, from your position of no God perhaps you can prove to me how a man can know the future hundreds of years before he was born. I don't even know what will happen tomorrow. I certainly can not write about an event that will happen hundreds of years after my death with any hope of being in the ballpark much less being 100% accurate. So why don't you explain to me, how men just like us were able to do that without the guidance of a power beyond themselves? I look forward to your reply.
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I am a woman, and I do not find him sexiest! Hitler was a prime example of what God says happens. Hitler came into great power, and he used it..but since I was not personally there, before Hitler died, I don't know what he did with God. But if he is in heaven, I will know that he has been forgiven..for he will be living there too! You can not talk me into not believing in God, as he has already shown me he exist! I do pray that he surprises you, to rethink his existence. Maybe this is what this is all about..You actually want to see an angel, Jesus, God in form? For sure though, you will get that chance, even if it is just at the Great White Throne of Judgement, but who am I to say, if you see something before hand, for I am not there to witness upon you to see reaction. Much love, hope to see you in heaven!
Have you never read Romans chapter ten? Particularly vs 17? There is definitely an order to things. " Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ." Apart from faith a person can not even know they need to be born again much less can they be born again. The post you contradicted was accurate.
