The power and authority we have in Christ

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Grace777x70

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I agree...a lot of people miss this point.

there is a difference between "in the Spirit" ( believer ) being "in the flesh" ( unbeliever )

walking "according to the Spirit or as in Gal 5:16 says "by the Spirit" " - this is walking from our true nature in Christ...His life manifesting in our outward behavior.

We all know what "walking according to the flesh is"- it's what happens when our mother-in-law comes for a visit...:rolleyes:.

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If Blain is in Christ then he's walking in the spirit. Saved people walk in the spirit lost people walk in the flesh... you're one or the other, you don't switch back and forth.

Romans 8:9 KJV
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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Blain, l said if. If you have cooled off a little. I have never met anyone who remains in the honeymoon period.
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I have been a Christian for three and half years and the honeymoon period is not what I would call it, in the beginning yes I knew that spiritual high that you get as new believer but the love God and I share only continues to grow deeper and stronger as time goes by and because this love is so deep and always growing. This is how it should be between us and him, as time goes by I only grow more and more madly in love with him and the relationship between us is built on Love.

True love with him is not the honey moon stage
 
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It is true that our relationship matures as time goes on, but that awareness of Him that we had at the beginning tends to fade somewhat for most l think. But the point us that you are feeling a lack of power so is it like the power you had at the start of has it faded?
 
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Yes Grace most of us make the mistake of trying to serve in the flesh after a good start.
 
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Blain, before I respond, do you suffer from type 1 or type 2 diabetes?
 
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Hepzibah said:
It is true that our relationship matures as time goes on, but that awareness of Him that we had at the beginning tends to fade somewhat for most l think. But the point us that you are feeling a lack of power so is it like the power you had at the start of has it faded?
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If the awareness of him is fading then there is an issue, if our relationship with him matures as time goes on then we will only become more aware of him as our relationship deepens. And as for me feeling a lack of power that isn't about anything fading it was a time of weakness for me and I felt comfortable enough to pour my heart out to my brothers and sisters in Christ.
Even the strongest of people will fall sometimes and we all will fall many times in our journey with him we all have moments and times of weakness but the question will we stay down or get back up?
 
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Blain, before I respond, do you suffer from type 1 or type 2 diabetes?
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well mine was drugged induced I had an allergic reaction from a shot that saved my life when I had cancer and it gave me diabetes the doctors call it a 1.5
 
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Blain you have not answered the questions about your diabetes which you said previously is not being well controlled because you find it hard to stick to your diet. If you are fully walking in the Spirit you would not have this problem. Your food intake would be under His control.

I do not say this to be critical but to point out that something is missing for you in your walk.
 
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Hepzibah said:
Blain you have not answered the questions about your diabetes which you said previously is not being well controlled because you find it hard to stick to your diet. If you are fully walking in the Spirit you would not have this problem. Your food intake would be under His control.

I do not say this to be critical but to point out that something is missing for you in your walk.
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Firstly I apologize I didn't see that post secondly no it doesn't work like that, fully walking in the spirit is not decided on my diabetes it decided with heart and yes I do have trouble but I am getting better. We all are lacking in our walk in one area or another we all have weaknesses and strengths we all have lessons that is harder for us to learn than other and we all are strong in some areas while others are weak.

I am not unaware I am lacking in him I am n ot afraid to admit I am weak in many areas but it doesn't matter how much I am lacking now or how weak I am now in any area because i fully believe and trust him to teach me and to show me the way
 
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Yes there is a training period where we keep failing because we are not walking in His strength. However, unless we reach a point of desperation, and decide that we will dedicate ourselves 100% and obey Him completely, then we are not ready yet. I will bow out now.
 
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Blain said:
well mine was drugged induced I had an allergic reaction from a shot that saved my life when I had cancer and it gave me diabetes the doctors call it a 1.5
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Thanks. Stress affects each differently. Please discuss your diabetes vs stress problems with your doctor. My cousin (in his 40s) has type 1, and until he got an insulin pump, stress would crash his sugar at the drop of a hat. He has few problems (including what he felt was stress) now. If you have type 2, please join a support group.

Now to our first love. I know that it is difficult at your age to walk away from a stressor, but put down your Bible, your phones and all other distractions, find a quiet place, and take the stressor directly to God in prayer. Get a trusted friend or your pastor to join with you in prayer. Listen and God will answer.
 
Blain

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Hepzibah said:
Yes there is a training period where we keep failing because we are not walking in His strength. However, unless we reach a point of desperation, and decide that we will dedicate ourselves 100% and obey Him completely, then we are not ready yet. I will bow out now.
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Your perspective is strange to me and I mean this in the most polite way. I don't know how your faith and relationship with works but when I became a Christians the first thing I promised him is that I would give him my all, from the very beginning I dedicated 100% to him. Why are we even Christians if we don't give him everything we've got? what is the point of not going all out? as for obeying him completely I have never heard of anyone obeying him completely we all sin and we all fall down which means we disobey him.
 
Blain

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Billyd said:
Thanks. Stress affects each differently. Please discuss your diabetes vs stress problems with your doctor. My cousin (in his 40s) has type 1, and until he got an insulin pump, stress would crash his sugar at the drop of a hat. He has few problems (including what he felt was stress) now. If you have type 2, please join a support group.

Now to our first love. I know that it is difficult at your age to walk away from a stressor, but put down your Bible, your phones and all other distractions, find a quiet place, and take the stressor directly to God in prayer. Get a trusted friend or your pastor to join with you in prayer. Listen and God will answer.
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By stressor do mean the cause of my stress? Because yes I had to walk away from them and find God in quite place that is how I found peace. Honestly that quite place is my favorite place because it's there he and I connect intimately the most, there is something very special about being still and knowing him.
 
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Okay Blain if you insist that we will sometimes fall, that means that most of the time your diet is perfect as far as keeping your carbohydrates low is concerned but on some days you slip up. Is that what you mean or are you saying that every day you fail to do the diet? By the way, unsaved people cure diabetes on a 28 day raw vegan diet.

I am only using food as an example to show you whether your appetite is under the control of the Holy Spirit and not to put you down. We are led by the flesh or by the Spirit. It is one or the other.
 
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Hepzibah said:
Blain you have not answered the questions about your diabetes which you said previously is not being well controlled because you find it hard to stick to your diet. If you are fully walking in the Spirit you would not have this problem. Your food intake would be under His control.

I do not say this to be critical but to point out that something is missing for you in your walk.
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Be careful. Our problems are not always the result of something missing in our walk. There are several physical reasons that a person has trouble controlling diet. Since Blain has been treated for cancer, it is extremely important to rule out these reasons.
 
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Generally, if we can't do what we ought to do, then it lies in our willingness to obey 100%. The Spirit is stronger than the flesh.
 
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Hepzibah said:
Okay Blain if you insist that we will sometimes fall, that means that most of the time your diet is perfect as far as keeping your carbohydrates low is concerned but on some days you slip up. Is that what you mean or are you saying that every day you fail to do the diet? By the way, unsaved people cure diabetes on a 28 day raw vegan diet.

I am only using food as an example to show you whether your appetite is under the control of the Holy Spirit and not to put you down. We are led by the flesh or by the Spirit. It is one or the other.
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I will answer your question with another question, do you sin? Because if you sin at all you are disobeying God and if you say that walking in the spirit is to obey him completely then you yourself do not walk in the spirit. Walking in the spirit is not about obedience it is a matter of the heart.
 
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Coming from the standpoint of someone with a serious illness, and used to being on forums with people with various serious illnesses but healing them through strict diet, l do have some experience in the area.
 
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Yes you are correct and we are to serve from a pure heart. I have served from a pure heart for a period and did not fall at all. My position at present is that l am in the process of being restored to that.

Sorry l'm writing from a tablet and making errors with autocorrect.
 
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