Can one tell someone they may go to hell

[Grace777x70]

this one...wow..your words that you made up and what this scripture actually says is a bit "Eve-like...

Hebrews 6:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Of course..it does help to look at things in context..and this whole context is absolutely wonderful for us Christians!!
The book of Hebrews was for the Hebrews..in Chapter 6 and 10 the author of Hebrews was telling those Jewish people that if after hearing about Jesus as the Messiah..coming to a knowledge of the truth.. they then reject "receiving" Jesus and go back to the temple to do their jewish sacrifices. If you reject Jesus..there is no other sacrifice for sins..His Blood is enough!..That's why there is no repentance. There is only one sin that is unpardonable = not believing in Christ.

The willful sin one is just so lame..again talking about Jewish people rejecting Jesus as the Messiah and going to the temple for their cleansing of sins and not accepting Jesus as Savior.

All sin is willful too..If it was willful sin...none would be saved according to this doctrine.....no..it's the willful sin of rejecting Jesus that leads one to destruction

Hebrews 6 :4-8 is talking about jewish unbelievers who saw God in action..miracles ( partakers of the Holy Spirit..like Judas did and saw )..they were "enlightened" that Jesus was the Messiah but refused Him.

Hebrews 6:9 is now talking to believers.." But, beloved ( this is a believer ) we are convinced of better things of you., and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking these things."

The author of Hebrews wanted to reassure the believing jews that this ( verses 4-8 ) did not pertain to them incase they took it wrong and it upset them.

Context is everything....you can't take a scripture out of it's setting...context is everything.! If you take scripture out of it's context..that "text" will "con" you...

Read hebrews 6:6 it does say you who have been brought back to the cross (meaning you have already been at the cross are mocking the cross and calls it public disgrace.


In my book thats being in trouble and just as in much trouble as matthew 10:33

 

[Kaycie]

It is the whole purpose of Christ and Christians- Christ came to save us from hell, and Christians are to warn others in love to follow Christ in order to be saved from hell. Love warns others of danger, and there is no greater danger than never ending hell. So, yes, of course I wouldn't keep hell a secret, but warn others to obey God so that they don't have to go there.

 

[lordofthedance]

this one...wow..your words that you made up and what this scripture actually says is a bit "Eve-like...

Hebrews 6:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.

Of course..it does help to look at things in context..and this whole context is absolutely wonderful for us Christians!!
The book of Hebrews was for the Hebrews..in Chapter 6 and 10 the author of Hebrews was telling those Jewish people that if after hearing about Jesus as the Messiah..coming to a knowledge of the truth.. they then reject "receiving" Jesus and go back to the temple to do their jewish sacrifices. If you reject Jesus..there is no other sacrifice for sins..His Blood is enough!..That's why there is no repentance. There is only one sin that is unpardonable = not believing in Christ.

The willful sin one is just so lame..again talking about Jewish people rejecting Jesus as the Messiah and going to the temple for their cleansing of sins and not accepting Jesus as Savior.

All sin is willful too..If it was willful sin...none would be saved according to this doctrine.....no..it's the willful sin of rejecting Jesus that leads one to destruction

Hebrews 6 :4-8 is talking about jewish unbelievers who saw God in action..miracles ( partakers of the Holy Spirit..like Judas did and saw )..they were "enlightened" that Jesus was the Messiah but refused Him.

Hebrews 6:9 is now talking to believers.." But, beloved ( this is a believer ) we are convinced of better things of you., and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking these things."

The author of Hebrews wanted to reassure the believing jews that this ( verses 4-8 ) did not pertain to them incase they took it wrong and it upset them.

Context is everything....you can't take a scripture out of it's setting...context is everything.! If you take scripture out of it's context..that "text" will "con" you...

I think you will find a different meaning if you look in other translation of heb ,6.6 But if ye shall repent the kingdom is near never far away he cares

 

[lordofthedance]

It is the whole purpose of Christ and Christians- Christ came to save us from hell, and Christians are to warn others in love to follow Christ in order to be saved from hell. Love warns others of danger, and there is no greater danger than never ending hell. So, yes, of course I wouldn't keep hell a secret, but warn others to obey God so that they don't have to go there.

Amen love holds the key There is great spirit here in your post and truth

 

[lordofthedance]

dance dance where ever he may be

 

[lordofthedance]

ATTENSION PLEASE VOTE NOW


Very close poll upto now and some very valid points.
Thankyou all who have took part upto now and please post your say more thanks

 

[Stephen63]

Mark 1:14-15 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, [SUP]15 [/SUP]And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Repent, or what?

Luke 13:1-5 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? [SUP]3 [/SUP]I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? [SUP]5 [/SUP]I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

 

[Grace777x70]

The kingdom of God is here now..in us!..Praise God!

Luke 17:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.Colossians 1:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

I think you will find a different meaning if you look in other translation of heb ,6.6 But if ye shall repent the kingdom is near never far away he cares

 

[Utah]

[h=2]Can one tell someone they may go to hell[/h]
I prefer to discuss everlasting life in Jesus Christ. Think positive!

 

[santuzza]

Not sure telling someone they may go to hell is the best way to witness to someone (although sometimes I think it is!)

Example:

When I was a VERY new Believer, a gay man, who was a good friend at the time, became aware that I had made a commitment to Christ. Apparently he knew the implications of this before I did, in some respects. So he made a "trap" for me. He said, "Well, I'm guessing that according to your new church, I'm going to hell." I didn't quite know how to respond to this, so I said, "Well, yes, I guess they would." This caused quite a firestorm at the table (I was having dinner with a group of my friends, many of whom were gay and all of whom were very accepting of the gay lifestyle). I was immediately ostracized, and this guy never talked to me again.

I wish I had the maturity and wisdom to say something like, "It's not my position to determine who goes to hell and who goes to heaven." So I learned a valuable lesson from this encounter. There are times to speak of hell and times to keep silent on the issue. It would have been so much better if I had given a mature response, kept his friendship, and slowly witness to him over time. Now the opportunity is lost forever.

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

Part of the good news is that we do not have to suffer an eternal torment in Hell. There is everlasting life in Christ Jesus as we accept His Lordship, His sacrifice for our sin, and abide in Him....
So the OP poll could be a bit more specific in the options to reduce confusion.

 

[Blain]

It wasn't the fear of eternal torment that drew me to him it was his love and grace he offered

 

[RickyZ]

The book of Hebrews was for the Hebrews

Every single Word from God was for every single person who ever lived

 

[santuzza]

It wasn't the fear of eternal torment that drew me to him it was his love and grace he offered

Oddly enough, despite my earlier post, it WAS the fear of eternal damnation that got me to look at Christ and accept Him as my Savior.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Every single Word from God was for every single person who ever lived

true but remember, some of his word was directed at certain people. not others.. So we have to learn to properly interpret all things together..

sadly some people want to interpret the words. and do not look at historical context. Who was it written to. Why was it written to them (what were they doing to cause God to say this to them) as well as the rest of the word to interpret a passage.

this is why we get all these different views of what God is saying in a particular passage..

 

[Grace777x70]

True...maybe a better way of saying it is..he wrote to address the Hebrews there to address things concerning them. In doing so he would be talking about Hebrew issues.

We can all learn from what was written no matter who it is addressed to.

If I was writing a letter to a group of people and in that letter I say.." Oh....you people sacrificing to idols in your congregation need to learn about Jesus's sacrifice for you.."

..You can learn from it but it is not specifically addressed to you....well unless you are sacrificing still to idols.

Every single Word from God was for every single person who ever lived

 

[lordofthedance]

True...maybe a better way of saying it is..he wrote to address the Hebrews there to address things concerning them. In doing so he would be talking about Hebrew issues.

We can all learn from what was written no matter who it is addressed to.

If I was writing a letter to a group of people and in that letter I say.." Oh....you people sacrificing to idols in your congregation need to learn about Jesus's sacrifice for you.."

..You can learn from it but it is not specifically addressed to you....well unless you are sacrificing still to idols.

From studies so Far it seems hebrews 6:4_6:6 is one of the most miss understood scriptures there is and one of the most disagreeable scripture there is.

However i am a believer and i know if i wanted to i could turn my back on God if i wanted to.
I know i could live a life style of drugs women and crime drive flash cars the temptation i feel is more greater having stopped this life style.


I also know that spiritual possession is real i have seen and witnessed spiritual possession which i feel one can be tricked to which case your innocent how ever once you have been tricked and tasted feeling good again you could go back to that life style.

I know also that a high percentage of athiests have also been christian and abandoned there faith because of doctrine issues and circumstance and religion.

so i feel hebrews 6:4_6:6 could apply to them people.

 

[Grace777x70]

The real kicker for me in Hebrews 6:4-8..is the verse following the description of these people ..Hebrews 6:9

Hebrews 6:9 is now talking to believers.." But, beloved ( this is a believer ) we are convinced of better things of you., and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking these things."

The author of Hebrews wanted to reassure the believing jews that this ( verses 4-8 ) did not pertain to them incase they took it wrong and it upset them.

Context is everything....you can't take a scripture out of it's setting...context is everything.! If you take scripture out of it's context..that "text" will "con" you...

From studies so Far it seems hebrews 6:4_6:6 is one of the most miss understood scriptures there is and one of the most disagreeable scripture there is.

However i am a believer and i know if i wanted to i could turn my back on God if i wanted to.
I know i could live a life style of drugs women and crime drive flash cars the temptation i feel is more greater having stopped this life style.


I also know that spiritual possession is real i have seen and witnessed spiritual possession which i feel one can be tricked to which case your innocent how ever once you have been tricked and tasted feeling good again you could go back to that life style.

I know also that a high percentage of athiests have also been christian and abandoned there faith because of doctrine issues and circumstance and religion.

so i feel hebrews 6:4_6:6 could apply to them people.

 

[lordofthedance]

Can one tell someone they may go to hell


I prefer to discuss everlasting life in Jesus Christ. Think positive!

Thats cool maybe your called to do that only and maybe you have been gifted to do so.

However your here reading this so you must have some interest and while you may be called to discuss the heavenly gifts one may be called to discuss the hell bound gifts

 

[eternally-gratefull]

From studies so Far it seems hebrews 6:4_6:6 is one of the most miss understood scriptures there is and one of the most disagreeable scripture there is.

However i am a believer and i know if i wanted to i could turn my back on God if i wanted to.
I know i could live a life style of drugs women and crime drive flash cars the temptation i feel is more greater having stopped this life style.


I also know that spiritual possession is real i have seen and witnessed spiritual possession which i feel one can be tricked to which case your innocent how ever once you have been tricked and tasted feeling good again you could go back to that life style.

I know also that a high percentage of athiests have also been christian and abandoned there faith because of doctrine issues and circumstance and religion.

so i feel hebrews 6:4_6:6 could apply to them people.

Actually Heb 6 applies to religious people who came out of religion. Tasted the truth of the gospel. but never had faith in the gospel. and who return to religion as their means to God.

if one comes out of religion like judiasm, and tries this thing called christianity, but never gains faith to th epoint they receive this Christ as their God and savior. but return to what they truly had faith in (religion) they will never return to Christ.

Thats the context of paul. If you fall away (return to judaism) there is no more sacrifice, your done, no one will ever convince you to return.

They did not lose salvation, they never had it, their faith was always in the law. that faith could not be broken.

a person who has their faith in the law (religion) broken, and has experienced the true love of God personally, would never even have an incling of returning back to religion or law. they have been made new creatures in Christ. they will nt return to the vomit of their former ways, which had no power to save.