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Billyd

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#41
If Sanders is the nominee ...it guarantees a Republican president the libs can make up any fairy tale prediction they want to believe.. in fact I hope they all start to believe this nonsense. And not sure who started the idea that ms Obama is seen as some kind of leader ..but that's just more liberal nonsense.
I think that you are assuming too much if you believe that the average democratic voter is looking for a real leader.

I hope you are right, but I'm skeptical.
 
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kaylagrl

Guest
#42
Some of you make me sick, sorry but that is the only way to put it, and God would not have any respect for such bad behavior and mistreatment of talking badly on others and placing guilty verdicts on people that have never been found guilty of anything yet !!!

Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty" ???

How about have you ever heard this, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you." (Matthew 5:44) ???

This backbiting is not acceptable by/in the Word of God !!!



P.S. --- Just a note about the whole no recount process, you know Bush used the whole recount thing to win a election he lost !!!

Quote "Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty" ???"

Have you watched the movie 13hrs, about
Benghazi ? The Clintons can get away with murder,literally. If you think she is innocent, I have some ocean front property for sale.
 

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
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#43
Some of you make me sick, sorry but that is the only way to put it, and God would not have any respect for such bad behavior and mistreatment of talking badly on others and placing guilty verdicts on people that have never been found guilty of anything yet !!!

Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty" ???

How about have you ever heard this, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you." (Matthew 5:44) ???

This backbiting is not acceptable by/in the Word of God !!!



P.S. --- Just a note about the whole no recount process, you know Bush used the whole recount thing to win a election he lost !!!
I like and respect you Brother, but you do realize you are being as judgmental of others as you are accusing them of being? Just saying.........As well, turn to the Bible please.......

[h=1]Matthew 7:16-20King James Version (KJV)[/h]16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


[h=1]1 Corinthians
6
[/h]
1 .) Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 .) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 .) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 .) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 .) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

2 Corinthians 6:14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 .) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 .) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 .) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18
.) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

[h=1]1 John
4[/h]
1 .) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

and there are more.............just saying
 
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KennethC

Guest
#44
Quote "Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty" ???"

Have you watched the movie 13hrs, about
Benghazi ? The Clintons can get away with murder,literally. If you think she is innocent, I have some ocean front property for sale.

Anybody can make up a video and show only points they want to touch on or make it out to look a certain way, just look on youtube at all the edited video's that make it look as if a person is saying something or doing something when they really aren't.

We need to be very careful what we listen to, read, or watch in determining something on another !!!

We should wait to see if the evidence is enough that fully comes out that renders a final guilty plea, instead of assuming such on others before they are actually found guilty.


With that being said that still does not excuse mistreatment and backbiting of a person who is not present, the bible clearly states such behavior of being sinful !!!

Apostle Paul lists this backbiting in his list of those people who will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, so we must be very careful in the type of behavior we express toward others.

Because love is of God, not backbiting which comes from hatred !!!


Also to end off with the same type of things can be easily said about the Bushes, as they have some very underhanded and controversial things they have done and been tied to as well !!!


This whole Republican vs. Democrat junk is exactly what the government wants, and the easily influenced fall for it hook, line, and sinker !!!
 
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KennethC

Guest
#45
I like and respect you Brother, but you do realize you are being as judgmental of others as you are accusing them of being? Just saying.........As well, turn to the Bible please.......

Matthew 7:16-20King James Version (KJV)

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


1 Corinthians
6



1 .) Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 .) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 .) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 .) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 .) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

2 Corinthians 6:14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 .) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 .) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 .) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18
.) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

1 John
4



1 .) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

and there are more.............just saying
We are allowed to judge those who consider themselves to be believers that are engaged in sinful behaviors to point out to them how what they are doing is wrong.

It is only those who are not believers yet that we are not allowed to judge, and Apostle Paul shows this in 1 Corinthians 5 !!!

I know those passages well that you have presented here, but they still in no way give us the right to mistreat others by badly talking about them when they are not around. That is called backbiting, and Paul list such sinful behavior in the lists he gave of those who will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

(Romans 1:28-30, 2 Corinthians 12:20, Ephesians 4:29, 5:4, 1 Timothy 6:4, Colossians 3:8)

How many times does Paul have to say this type of behavior is sinful and unacceptable for a believer ???
 
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kaylagrl

Guest
#46
Anybody can make up a video and show only points they want to touch on or make it out to look a certain way, just look on youtube at all the edited video's that make it look as if a person is saying something or doing something when they really aren't.

We need to be very careful what we listen to, read, or watch in determining something on another !!!

We should wait to see if the evidence is enough that fully comes out that renders a final guilty plea, instead of assuming such on others before they are actually found guilty.


With that being said that still does not excuse mistreatment and backbiting of a person who is not present, the bible clearly states such behavior of being sinful !!!

Apostle Paul lists this backbiting in his list of those people who will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, so we must be very careful in the type of behavior we express toward others.

Because love is of God, not backbiting which comes from hatred !!!


Also to end off with the same type of things can be easily said about the Bushes, as they have some very underhanded and controversial things they have done and been tied to as well !!!


This whole Republican vs. Democrat junk is exactly what the government wants, and the easily influenced fall for it hook, line, and sinker !!!

Quote "
Anybody can make up a video and show only points they want to touch on or make it out to look a certain way, just look on youtube at all the edited video's that make it look as if a person is saying something or doing something when they really aren't."

This was told by the men that were there. Why would they have reason to lie? It's not a youtube video. The men who went through that horror have been interviewed many times. It is their story. Whether anyone has the guts to touch a Clinton, it remains to be seen. She is calling the families of the dead men liars. I dont see how she can stoop lower. She blamed the video and now denies it. Justice has nothing to do with backbiting. Three dead men deserve that the truth be told.

 
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Mitspa

Guest
#47
Some of you make me sick, sorry but that is the only way to put it, and God would not have any respect for such bad behavior and mistreatment of talking badly on others and placing guilty verdicts on people that have never been found guilty of anything yet !!!

Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty" ???

How about have you ever heard this, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you." (Matthew 5:44) ???

This backbiting is not acceptable by/in the Word of God !!!



P.S. --- Just a note about the whole no recount process, you know Bush used the whole recount thing to win a election he lost !!!
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
 
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KennethC

Guest
#49
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
The reproving and rebuking is to be done directly to the person, and talking badly about a person is not reproving and rebuking !!!

Reproving and rebuking is stating things that does not align with God's Word, and then the Word of God shows that reproving and rebuking is always to be followed up with exhortation and esteeming of the person !!!

No exhortation or esteeming then the rebuking or reproving is done in the wrong way, and thus falls under the judging of others that is not allowed !!!
 
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Mitspa

Guest
#50
The reproving and rebuking is to be done directly to the person, and talking badly about a person is not reproving and rebuking !!!

Reproving and rebuking is stating things that does not align with God's Word, and then the Word of God shows that reproving and rebuking is always to be followed up with exhortation and esteeming of the person !!!

No exhortation or esteeming then the rebuking or reproving is done in the wrong way, and thus falls under the judging of others that is not allowed !!!
Your wrong...reproving the darkness is calling evil ..evil and Hillary is clearly a evil and ungodly person.
 
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KennethC

Guest
#51
Your wrong...reproving the darkness is calling evil ..evil and Hillary is clearly a evil and ungodly person.
Where is your exhortation of the person, as Paul says the reproving and rebuking is always to be followed up with ???

Also nowhere does the reproving and rebuking show it gives the right to talk badly about the person or assume things on others. The talking bad about a person not around is called "backbiting", and the Word of God says that is sinful behavior !!!
 
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Mitspa

Guest
#52
Where is your exhortation of the person, as Paul says the reproving and rebuking is always to be followed up with ???

Also nowhere does the reproving and rebuking show it gives the right to talk badly about the person or assume things on others. The talking bad about a person not around is called "backbiting", and the Word of God says that is sinful behavior !!!
Your just wrong ...and if you support or defend the evil Hillary Clinton represents ..then your in fellowship with darkness and need to be reproved as well.
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
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#53
I pray the Lord would disable Ken's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Button!!!!!

Surely, with all the screaming he does, he must have a sore throat by now.

Still love you though Ken
 
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Mitspa

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KennethC

Guest
#56
Your just wrong ...and if you support or defend the evil Hillary Clinton represents ..then your in fellowship with darkness and need to be reproved as well.
There you go with your wrong assumptions again !!!

I am in no way a Hilary Clinton or an Obama supported, but what I do stand for is the pure undefiled Word of God.

Nowhere does the bible give us the right to belittle, demean, talk badly on, and bad mouth a person behind their back. That is called backbiting !!!

There is a proper way in which reproving and rebuking is to be done, and Jesus said it is to be done in LOVE not hatred and malice !!!



I know some of you don't like this to keep your hate doctrine toward certain people allowed, and then make false accusations toward me, but you can not deny what the Word of God says in how we are to act.

You can dislike me and what I say all you want, but denying what the Word of God says is dangerous !!!


P.S.----- PennEd "screaming" is when one types a sentence in "ALL CAPS" !!!


God's love comes with things we don't want to hear all the time, and His Word states the proper behavior in which true believers in Him will live by !!!.................Backbiting is not one of them !!!
 
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Mitspa

Guest
#57
Media claim Hillary won Iowa....they (Dems) wont release real vote count...so it clear Bernie got more votes
 
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Mitspa

Guest
#58
There you go with your wrong assumptions again !!!

I am in no way a Hilary Clinton or an Obama supported, but what I do stand for is the pure undefiled Word of God.

Nowhere does the bible give us the right to belittle, demean, talk badly on, and bad mouth a person behind their back. That is called backbiting !!!

There is a proper way in which reproving and rebuking is to be done, and Jesus said it is to be done in LOVE not hatred and malice !!!



I know some of you don't like this to keep your hate doctrine toward certain people allowed, and then make false accusations toward me, but you can not deny what the Word of God says in how we are to act.

You can dislike me and what I say all you want, but denying what the Word of God says is dangerous !!!


P.S.----- PennEd "screaming" is when one types a sentence in "ALL CAPS" !!!


God's love comes with things we don't want to hear all the time, and His Word states the proper behavior in which true believers in Him will live by !!!.................Backbiting is not one of them !!!
Your just wrong..and we are without doubt supposed to expose and rebuke the darkness in this world and call it what it is ... Hillary is a evil person ..promoting evil things
 
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KennethC

Guest
#59
Your just wrong..and we are without doubt supposed to expose and rebuke the darkness in this world and call it what it is ... Hillary is a evil person ..promoting evil things
Exposing the works of darkness does not include backbiting !!!

I am all for the exposing the works of darkness and reproving and rebuking it, but there is a proper way in which the Word of God says this is to be done. When done in backbiting, malice, hateful, or demeaning of the person way then it is shown to be in the improper way !!!
 
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Mitspa

Guest
#60
Exposing the works of darkness does not include backbiting !!!

I am all for the exposing the works of darkness and reproving and rebuking it, but there is a proper way in which the Word of God says this is to be done. When done in backbiting, malice, hateful, or demeaning of the person way then it is shown to be in the improper way !!!
Look Kenneth...the term "backbiting" is a term that describes what occurs among real Christians in group that is supposed to be in the unity of Christ...it has nothing to do with exposing the wickedness in this world to the light of truth.... Hillary is not in the body of Christ.... so please just save this stuff where you lecture other about "backbiting"