Should a Christian man always be provider in a modern women's rights-oriented world?
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hmmmm. Well, they aren't preaching from a biblical standpoint they are just quoting cliche' sayings that don't hold any logical weight behind them. Many men really do beleive this way, but it is really rubbish. I wouldn't worry about what those churches say, I'd just say don't worry about being a provider, just work on making yourself the best possible spouse you can be. Few men today's society are REAL providers to their wives even in the church. I mean it sounds good to say Men are supposed to be providers and it is the politically correct thing to say, but the politically correct thing to say is not always based in what is reality and what the truth is, ya know. It was a THING to provide for your wives in the past but as society progresses and changes things change. And when you change things in society there is usually a trade off that comes with it. Like the example I gave you of passing a law to protect women from being terminated from their jobs if they get pregnant.
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As far as it being a sin, I don't know and don't think so, but I do believe it is the man's responsibility to provide for his family.
I don't think there is anything wrong with a wife wanting to work, or holding a job. I don't think it should be an expectation. I do think it is extremely important for parents to be involved in the raising of their kids. One of the parents should be a full-time parent. "traditionally" the man is the bread winner, but depending on circumstances things can be switched around. Sometimes, it might make sense to approach a situation differently.
That being said, unless such a situation comes up, a man should expect to pay for absolutely everything. (not to say that always needs to be the case, but that should be the expectation. To the men that don't agree with this: stop being wimps.)
For myself, I have made choices with this in mind. Someday, Lord willing, I hope to get married and raise a family. Until then, I have picked a career path that will allow me to support a family. I do my work heartily as unto the Lord, and try to progress in my career.
It could very well be the case that I meet a women who makes more than me, and it might make more sense at some point in the future for me to stay home with kids and her to continue working, but my mindset is that I'm the one responsible for that.
Side note, on women making more/equivalent money to men. This really depends on the company they are working for, and the field of work. I can say that when working at Intel, the women there were treated with complete respect, and they also were getting the same amount of pay as the men. This hasn't always been the case at other companies that I've worked at, sometimes due to discrimination, and others due to lesser or lower quality work, or less experience.
I don't think there is anything wrong with a wife wanting to work, or holding a job. I don't think it should be an expectation. I do think it is extremely important for parents to be involved in the raising of their kids. One of the parents should be a full-time parent. "traditionally" the man is the bread winner, but depending on circumstances things can be switched around. Sometimes, it might make sense to approach a situation differently.
That being said, unless such a situation comes up, a man should expect to pay for absolutely everything. (not to say that always needs to be the case, but that should be the expectation. To the men that don't agree with this: stop being wimps.)
For myself, I have made choices with this in mind. Someday, Lord willing, I hope to get married and raise a family. Until then, I have picked a career path that will allow me to support a family. I do my work heartily as unto the Lord, and try to progress in my career.
It could very well be the case that I meet a women who makes more than me, and it might make more sense at some point in the future for me to stay home with kids and her to continue working, but my mindset is that I'm the one responsible for that.
Side note, on women making more/equivalent money to men. This really depends on the company they are working for, and the field of work. I can say that when working at Intel, the women there were treated with complete respect, and they also were getting the same amount of pay as the men. This hasn't always been the case at other companies that I've worked at, sometimes due to discrimination, and others due to lesser or lower quality work, or less experience.
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lol. I guess I will be the wimp then.
A strong wimp that doesn't let anyone mess with him, but a wimp none the less. Unless I am misinterpreting your paragraph.
Can I ask you a question though? Why should the man pay for everything when the woman has her own moolah (money). I am not against stay at home moms being provided for. In fact if I could have it my way, my future marriage would be like that. But why should a man pay for everything when the woman is usually more than capable of providing for herself. Or am I misinterpreting your paragraph?
A strong wimp that doesn't let anyone mess with him, but a wimp none the less. Unless I am misinterpreting your paragraph.
Can I ask you a question though? Why should the man pay for everything when the woman has her own moolah (money). I am not against stay at home moms being provided for. In fact if I could have it my way, my future marriage would be like that. But why should a man pay for everything when the woman is usually more than capable of providing for herself. Or am I misinterpreting your paragraph?
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I think its a lot of stress for a woman to work outside the home if there are kids. Kids need to be raised by a parent and not a babysitter. If youre childless then yes both can have jobs. This may seem like old fashioned thinking but I've worked in a daycare and its not a good place for kids. They need individual care by loving parents. If you have kids then raise them, teach them, they. need you. Two adults without kids can work but the housework should be equally divided
So what's wrong with a stay-at-home dad? Provided he works for the extra income while the wife is pregnant, and does extra household chores, and cooks? Honestly, I do all of that now, it's no strain on me to do all this, and, if I got married, that's all that rent money at first being put into savings toward a downpayment. Not much, but it would probably help.
I think it varies from profession to profession. In the corporate world, many women earn lesser than their male peers.
For me, I'd rather that we both work and contribute equally to household chores. Since Indians emphasize a lot on saving, I would like to limit out expenses to only one person's salary, preferrably to the lesser one. However, and this is something that I am working on, I don't know if I will have an issue if she earns more than me. I've never been in that situation, and even in my current relationship, she earns in USD while I earn in INR.
For me, I'd rather that we both work and contribute equally to household chores. Since Indians emphasize a lot on saving, I would like to limit out expenses to only one person's salary, preferrably to the lesser one. However, and this is something that I am working on, I don't know if I will have an issue if she earns more than me. I've never been in that situation, and even in my current relationship, she earns in USD while I earn in INR.
I have not read any of the other replies.......but I can tell you will all assurance that being the provider does not only mean financially.
Being the head of the home means that you will provide stability and leadership.
I have been acused of being idealistic before....and truthfully, I don't mind. I like how I am.
I do believe that a pure, loving relationship, with good communication and mutual respect and support is what makes a home. Who cares if you all are paycheck to paycheck....to me, that just shows that you are together thru thick and thin.
Being likeminded in how to budget...esspecially when starting out is imperitive. If that means that you both work..(maybe one of you, its two jobs) to save and get a bit of a cushion in the bank before children come along...then that is what it means. If your with the right person...the size of your bank account or paycheck will NOT matter. Being the provider (head of the home) is not all about money.
Being the head of the home means that you will provide stability and leadership.
I have been acused of being idealistic before....and truthfully, I don't mind. I like how I am.
I do believe that a pure, loving relationship, with good communication and mutual respect and support is what makes a home. Who cares if you all are paycheck to paycheck....to me, that just shows that you are together thru thick and thin.
Being likeminded in how to budget...esspecially when starting out is imperitive. If that means that you both work..(maybe one of you, its two jobs) to save and get a bit of a cushion in the bank before children come along...then that is what it means. If your with the right person...the size of your bank account or paycheck will NOT matter. Being the provider (head of the home) is not all about money.
numbers,
couple with kids, both parents work full time, both make $300 a week. avg cost of daycare for kids is $972 a month or $243 a week. So for the woman to work that $300 a week job, she only makes $57 a week (you can say dad only makes $57 a week or whatever) simple fact is one of them is working for $1.425 a hour. is that $57 a week really worth it?
couple with kids, both parents work full time, both make $300 a week. avg cost of daycare for kids is $972 a month or $243 a week. So for the woman to work that $300 a week job, she only makes $57 a week (you can say dad only makes $57 a week or whatever) simple fact is one of them is working for $1.425 a hour. is that $57 a week really worth it?
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I didn't say that a man should always pay for everything. I said the it is the man's responsibility.
My siblings and I like to go sledding in the winter. If I carry a sled back to the sledding hill, once we are done sledding, it is my responsibility to carry it back. Just as it is the responsibility of my siblings to carry back the sleds they brought to the hill.
That being said, There have been many times where I have carried the sleds that my siblings brought back to the sledding hill. There have also been a couple times where they took the sled I brought back to the house.
There is nothing wrong with the person not responsible for bringing the sled back from doing so, but if the sled fails to get brought back, who is at fault?
In marriage, the bible says that the two shall become one. So then the responsibility is one both, but it also says that man is the head of the wife.(Mark 10:8, Ephesians 5:23) So if there is no providing, who is at fault?
My siblings and I like to go sledding in the winter. If I carry a sled back to the sledding hill, once we are done sledding, it is my responsibility to carry it back. Just as it is the responsibility of my siblings to carry back the sleds they brought to the hill.
That being said, There have been many times where I have carried the sleds that my siblings brought back to the sledding hill. There have also been a couple times where they took the sled I brought back to the house.
There is nothing wrong with the person not responsible for bringing the sled back from doing so, but if the sled fails to get brought back, who is at fault?
In marriage, the bible says that the two shall become one. So then the responsibility is one both, but it also says that man is the head of the wife.(Mark 10:8, Ephesians 5:23) So if there is no providing, who is at fault?
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Statistics, for your leisurely perusal.
And according to this statistics report, the salary for male teachers is as much as 10-13% higher than female teachers.
There are numerous reasons, some of them legitimate and some of them not, that men earn more than women. One reason is that men are often more aggressive about raises in pay than women are. Another is that women are likely to stop mid-career in order to have a family.
And according to this statistics report, the salary for male teachers is as much as 10-13% higher than female teachers.
There are numerous reasons, some of them legitimate and some of them not, that men earn more than women. One reason is that men are often more aggressive about raises in pay than women are. Another is that women are likely to stop mid-career in order to have a family.