The Trump Phenomenon: Dry Run for the Antichrist

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RachelBibleStudent

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Bookends said:
How is he a threat to the church?
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first...by leading some christians to believe that his words and actions and beliefs are an acceptable form of christianity...basically by broadening their definition of 'christianity' to include blatant heresy and wickedness...doing to the evangelical churches what already happened to the 'mainline' churches decades ago...

second...by leading evangelicals into wickedness and heresy themselves...for example beating people up or defending those acts...applauding or defending the thought of taking someone's coat and sending them out into below freezing winter temperatures...and defending the idea that people should be waterboarded -even if the procedure doesn't work- simply because 'they deserve it'...and then claiming all of this is what jesus would want...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Bookends said:
He's not leading anyone astray, except may be calling himself a 'christian'.
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which is one of the worst ways anyone can be led astray...to accept false christianity as true christianity...

if Christians are following him then blame them.
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i am...

I'd rather vote for someone who can call a spade a spade then vote for some who tells his/her base what they want to hear (which is just about all them politicians).
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telling his 'base' what their corrupt hearts desire to hear is exactly what trump is doing...

BTW, if 'christian' is what I think you mean, then perhaps most of them 'christians' aren't of the church to begin with.
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i will just let this one stand on its own...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Bookends said:
If Trump believes that Jesus is the son of God, then he can't be an anti-christ per 1 John 2:22..Might be a good question to ask him....

Regarding Satan, not so sure on that, seems to me he uses the same plan over and over, what changes is the technology available to him. Nothing under the sun....
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i disagree about 1 john 2:22...john seems to indicate multiple ways of being an 'antichrist'...denying that jesus is the son of God is only one of them...
 
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You can't be a Trump supporter and talk about Christian values. It's like saying you're a vegan while simultaneously eating a cheeseburger
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Bookends said:
Where do you come with this stuff, I'm sure Trump wants to crack down on terrorists who happen to be heathens, but not heathens who are law abiding. I never heard him say he wanted to lift up christians.
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i was responding to claims made by another poster who said that trump wanted to crack down on pagans and lift up christians...this was his supposed justification for supporting trump...
 
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Dude653 said:
Rachel is absolutely right. Being a trump supporter automatically disqualifies you from talking to me about Christian values.
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Best way to achieve that is by remaining silent yourself.
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
if donald trump were being 'used by God'...there would be some evidence of God's influence in his speech and behavior...

there isn't...unless you want to suggest that God is into strip clubs and playboy magazine and sleeping with other men's wives and then bragging about it...and all of the other stuff i mentioned in my essay...
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Who gave Satan the keys to the abyss to unleash demons in Revelations and for what purpose?
 
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Dude653 said:
Things Jesus never said
1. Thou shalt take someone's coat and laugh about her being thrown out into sub-zero temperature
2. The shalt disrespect women
3. The shalt use as much profanity and coarse language as possible
4.Thou shalt be racist.
5.Thou shalt be boastful and narcissistic. ..
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Throw in, thou shalt not be a tyrannical muslim, and you pegged obama. Well done, dude.
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
here is a -real- christian reaction to donald trump's candidacy...

BOOM: Hobby Lobby Founder Says 'Under No Circumstance Could I Vote for' Trump [VIDEO] #NeverTrump | RedState

the founder of hobby lobby is a person who has actually fought and sacrificed for christian religious freedom...whereas trump has spent more effort on defending his hair than on defending christianity...
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I wonder if the Hobby Lobby founder could bring himself to pray for Trump if he becomes president! Could you?
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
as i have already noted...you cannot truthfully call this a 'conspiracy theory' because i have not theorized that there is a conspiracy...

and regarding your pretend opposition to what you keep comparing to ellen white's teachings...i couldn't help but notice the crickets coming from your corner when someone posted a thread about having a 'vision' of donald trump becoming president...

i mean it couldn't possibly be that you are willing to tolerate a whole lot of false teaching so long as it is positive towards trump...
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Of course this thread belongs in the conspiracy forums ...or the ellen g white section of CC
 
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Utah said:
I'll talk about obama anywhere, anytime and anyhow I want. Don't like it? Don't participate.
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its amazing how many Obama and Hillary fans we have on this forum, who claim to be conservatives and Christians?
 
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Dude653 said:
Just admit you're deflecting
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Imagine Trump being the one responsible for four dead Americans in Benghazi. You'd never shut up.
But I digress, he confiscated someone's coat. Boo hoo.
 
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Utah said:
Imagine Trump being the one responsible for four dead Americans in Benghazi. You'd never shut up.
But I digress, he confiscated someone's coat. Boo hoo.
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Stole..don't get it twisted.... that Bible you quote so much..it says thou shalt not steal
 
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Dude653 said:
Stole..don't get it twisted.... that Bible you quote so much..it says thou shalt not steal
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Heck if people were heckling me and cussing me out at my party so to speak, I'd take their coats and throw them out in the cold as well.....ice that person ( I would say fool but lest I get a biblical lecture....)

Trump tells security to take protesters' coats: 'Throw them out into the cold' | TheHill

You don't crash a party and then not expect to get thrown out or confronted....your argument about stealing coats is meaningless....what happened to thou shalt not slander/bear false witness protestors were screaming trump is a racist b@$%23 ....I think he did a good job.....

Telling half a story by not depicting the protestors were cursing Trump with profanity is not telling the whole story..... be fair
 
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Dude653 said:
You can't be a Trump supporter and talk about Christian values. It's like saying you're a vegan while simultaneously eating a cheeseburger
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Can't be a Trump detractor and talk about values period. It's like sitting at the Mickey D's drive thru complaining about the quarter pounder with cheese not being on the Value Menu when you just need to pick an item you do want from the menu sir and please pull up to the next window.
 
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Ultimatum77 said:
Heck if people were heckling me and cussing me out at my party so to speak, I'd take their coats and throw them out in the cold as well.....ice that person ( I would say fool but lest I get a biblical lecture....)

Trump tells security to take protesters' coats: 'Throw them out into the cold' | TheHill

You don't crash a party and then not expect to get thrown out or confronted....your argument about stealing coats is meaningless....what happened to thou shalt not slander/bear false witness protestors were screaming trump is a racist b@$%23 ....I think he did a good job.....

Telling half a story by not depicting the protestors were cursing Trump with profanity is not telling the whole story..... be fair
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That's where you're wrong. The truth isn't slander. We've been over this. Security guards have no legal right to seize someone's property.
 
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