american man sentenced for 15 yrs for removing a political banner in a Korean Hotel

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Stupid is stupid does.
 

Dude653

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yeah...that wasnt the smartest thing to do... when you go to jail in another country, you are in deep doo doo.
 
Dec 9, 2011
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Hopefully they will reduce the sentence to a few months or even less.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Its clear that they are making him claim the US government made him steal this sign, though : / I imagine its all done in order to get a shorter sentence. Hopefully he can get back home to his family unharmed, as soon as possible.
 

Dude653

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Ok. You're in a communist country who you know isn't exactly on the best terms with America. It might be a good idea to be on your best behavior
 
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Wow. That was dumb.
 
Dec 9, 2011
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Yes It was a costly mistake,but I know no one on here wants him to suffer to that degree.
Thank GOD,GOD had mercy on me/us and made a way.:)
 
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jennymae

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Looks like legislation is a bit out of hand over yonder...
 
Feb 7, 2015
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Ok. You're in a communist country who you know isn't exactly on the best terms with America. It might be a good idea to be on your best behavior
Absolutely! I wonder what brand of soap this guy is?
 

Billyd

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People traveling abroad need to realize that they are not only subject to US law, they are also under local law. I always taught my children "if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime".

The sentence is harsh by any civilized country's standards, but he wasn't traveling in a civilized country. He is an American, in a country that hates Americans, stealing a government banner from a government owned hotel, what does he expect? My prayer is that he will be released soon.
 
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I sometimes see this as thinning the gene pool.
 

Desdichado

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He was a moron for visiting North Korea in the first place. Doubly so for stealing from hosts who are fond of political sham trials. You would figure a UVA man who made it as far as North Korea would know better about the environment in which he was acting.

This is, however, an outrage from a geopolitical standpoint. American power should be respected to where a 21 year old student doesn't have to worry about political imprisonment in another country.
 

Tommy379

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Why are people visiting North Korea. The place has nothing to offer. Those people are crazy. They worship a supreme leader who uses a AA gun to execute his own uncle. I would only enter that country under the cover of night to sink the USS Pueblo. If we can't have our ship back they shouldn't have it either.
 

Desdichado

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Why are people visiting North Korea. The place has nothing to offer. Those people are crazy. They worship a supreme leader who uses a AA gun to execute his own uncle. I would only enter that country under the cover of night to sink the USS Pueblo. If we can't have our ship back they shouldn't have it either.
That sounds like an awesome novel in the making.
 

Desdichado

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I only imagine that a journey to North Korea would benefit someone if they study diplomacy/political science/insert liberal art relating to politics here.

If I could go there without risk of political imprisonment to simply observe and report, I would. Alas, there is no such guarantee and I have the Jewish instinct for self-preservation.
 
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May Jesus help him endure this wrongful imprisonment and may Sir Warmbier be released soon.
 
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I only imagine that a journey to North Korea would benefit someone if they study diplomacy/political science/insert liberal art relating to politics here.

If I could go there without risk of political imprisonment to simply observe and report, I would. Alas, there is no such guarantee and I have the Jewish instinct for self-preservation.
Actually you can go there Sir Desdichado. Not too sure if the program exists or they are using a new one now, but there used to be an unofficial "friendship" building program in which the DPRK would let in a few Americans per year. Cost about 2,000 bucks for that, plus some money to bribe the Chinese to legally allow you to fly into Pyongyang and out of it.
 

Desdichado

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Actually you can go there Sir Desdichado. Not too sure if the program exists or they are using a new one now, but there used to be an unofficial "friendship" building program in which the DPRK would let in a few Americans per year. Cost about 2,000 bucks for that, plus some money to bribe the Chinese to legally allow you to fly into Pyongyang and out of it.
Yeah, but I would run the risk of. "30 years hard labor for the man who looks crosseyed at the picture of the Dear Leader."

If I could go there and get Madeline Albright treatment, then we can talk.