Is it Biblical, that God would rally fighters in a war today?

[tinytom]

I know the war is coming, the great falling away is about complete, and the next step is the revelation of the man of sin. Somewhere in between, Christians will start being murdered at alarming rates. It has started, in other countries, but don't you dare think, that just because this is America, that it wont happen here.

I don't think Jesus said, Christians will die everywhere but America.

So, the question is, do you think God would call warriors and prepers to start preparing for the upcoming war? Because I feel like I have been called for such a thing. To start preparing for the coming war, and for those who might be left here if the rapture is what many people think it is.

For if it is, I will have family left here, children raised in church, but not Christian, and not ready to go. And if the rapture theory is wrong or the timing is wrong, then we will live thru the tribulation, wait, I should say, a few of us will live thru the tribulation.

I have been trying to find if God would call warriors and prepers to prepare for this in the Bible, and have a few verses, like the be ready anytime verses, coming like a thief in the night and such, but is there anything I might be missing.

ANYTHING THAT THE LORD HAS PUT ON YOUR HEART THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL. That's what I'm looking for.

 

[Willie-T]

No.......................................................

 

[Chuckt]

Is it Biblical as in today's wars prophesized? No.
Are some wars Biblical? Yes.

The rest of your questions is absurd as if you can prepare for the wrath of God or if believers are going to be here. If God knows the end from the beginning then why would God let you thwart Him? He won't.

 

[tinytom]

I'm not trying to thwart Him, I don't even want to do it.

But, I feel compelled to prepare for the time when it's time to drop what we are doing and head for the mountains.

Matthew 24:5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Jesus preached this in 3 Gospels, it's important. And anyone who thinks we shouldn't prepare for this, has let their heart grow stale, or should I say, lukewarm.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I have been trying to find if God would call warriors and prepers to prepare for this in the Bible, and have a few verses, like the be ready anytime verses, coming like a thief in the night and such, but is there anything I might be missing.

I've known people who say Jesus told them to fill their garages with canned tuna and toilet paper, and get rebuked trying to point out things like this,

Matthew 6:31-33 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

They say this was only said to a few Jews, and it wasn't the dispensation of tuna and toilet paper, yet. I think to mention looking for the coming of Christ, not the antichrist, and the rapture, but that can cause a prepper epileptic seizures. The concept of trusting God is weird enough for them.

The only thing for sure I know is that people are always called by God these days, through people that say scary things and are selling something.

 

[Blain]

Actually yes he is preparing warriors for the war, but not warriors to slay demons. You very well may have been called for this, a while back I received a very interesting dream, I was walking and a dove is flying towards me carrying a scroll with a seal on it, it came and handed me the scroll but the seal was not removed, the second I accepted it suddenly my eyes were blazing fire and God's power was like radiating aura around me and I knew in the dream that the very same thing was happening to people everywhere at the exact same time.

Now I don't know for sure the meaning of it but I would think that the scroll is a calling and the seal will not be undone until the appointed time when he calls us to action, the fire in those I had... I know those eyes. When I was first saved within the first month I was saved I read revelations wasn't the brightest idea to try to read meat when I still needed a lot more milk lol but something did come of it, I read about Jesus eyes being as blazing fire, it was strange but as I read that I was overwhelmed it was as if I was standing right in front of his feeling the fierceness of those fiery eyes how strongly they burned but more importantly why they burned so intensely.

They burned out a very deep and powerful love and protection for his children and I could feel it in those eyes I could see it in them and I knew that wanted those very same eyes and for them to burn for very same reason.

 

[Blain]

I'm not trying to thwart Him, I don't even want to do it.

But, I feel compelled to prepare for the time when it's time to drop what we are doing and head for the mountains.

Matthew 24:5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Jesus preached this in 3 Gospels, it's important. And anyone who thinks we shouldn't prepare for this, has let their heart grow stale, or should I say, lukewarm.

Tom you are right to prepare that is you listening to his voice the important thing is to know how to prepare. I have said many times in this forum that a storm is rapidly approaching one this world has never seen before and if our hearts are not prepared none of us will stand even those of us who think we can.
How does one prepare themselves for what is coming? not by supplies or by preparing physically but with the heart, the only way to truly prepare for what is coming to seek and develop a very deep very ich and very beautiful love and bond with God, the deeper the love and the bond between you and him the stronger he will make you and more truths and secrets he will reveal to you.

He has shown me glimpses of what is coming and it's going to be a blood bath to say the least

 

[Chuckt]

Tom you are right to prepare that is you listening to his voice the important thing is to know how to prepare. I have said many times in this forum that a storm is rapidly approaching one this world has never seen before and if our hearts are not prepared none of us will stand even those of us who think we can.

So you would rather spend your money on preparing than sending the gospel?
Isn't that sin?

 

[Chuckt]

So you would rather spend your money on preparing than sending the gospel?
Isn't that sin?

So here is a verse for those who want to prepare for The Great Tribulation:

Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Tell me how you feel about it but I know you have the wrong viewpoint on the end times.

 

[Willie-T]

I'm not trying to thwart Him, I don't even want to do it.

But, I feel compelled to prepare for the time when it's time to drop what we are doing and head for the mountains.

Matthew 24:5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Jesus preached this in 3 Gospels, it's important. And anyone who thinks we shouldn't prepare for this, has let their heart grow stale, or should I say, lukewarm.

It is quite usual and typical to stop reading at verse 14. That relieves the end-times fanatic of the responsibility of realistically answering all of the questions the following verses raise. Your doomsday panic falls flat on its face when you try to explain the Sabbath, the winter time, the nursing and pregnant women, the coat, the explicit name of the city, etc.

Oh, you people and your insatiable desire to read that warning into our 21st Century.... as they did in their 20th century, and the 19th century before that, and the 18th century for THEIR time, and the 17 century, the 16th, the 15th, and on, and on, and on, and on, right back to the day Jesus warned His contemporaries about what was "SOON" to come. Every generation, after enough time went by after it had already happened, that they forgot about it, has sworn THE time was now THEIR time......... but none so blindly fanatically as OUR time when it has become so easy to make multiple millions and millions of dollars off gullible, fearful people. Thank you Schofield... and of course, Hal.

 

[Blain]

So you would rather spend your money on preparing than sending the gospel?
Isn't that sin?

Where did I say I was going to prepare with money? I said we must prepare our hearts

 

[thepsalmist]

So here is a verse for those who want to prepare for The Great Tribulation:

Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Tell me how you feel about it but I know you have the wrong viewpoint on the end times.

That's exactly what God told me also ... same scripture. I asked if I should head for the hills ... he said no...

 

[Blain]

So here is a verse for those who want to prepare for The Great Tribulation:

Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Tell me how you feel about it but I know you have the wrong viewpoint on the end times.

you completely swing and miss at my earlier post and then tell me you know I have the wrong view point for the end times?

 

[thepsalmist]

I have "planned" to play it all by ear ... simply to trust in God ... He will lead me.

 

[Chuckt]

you completely swing and miss at my earlier post and then tell me you know I have the wrong view point for the end times?

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

If you are a Christian then you are no longer by nature the children of wrath because Christ bore your punishment.

So therefore you have the wrong end times view.

 

[Blain]

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

If you are a Christian then you are no longer by nature the children of wrath because Christ bore your punishment.

So therefore you have the wrong end times view.

So if I am a Christian I have the wrong end time view? or are you saying something else? I am a little dense so forgive me if I misunderstood

 

[Chuckt]

So if I am a Christian I have the wrong end time view? or are you saying something else? I am a little dense so forgive me if I misunderstood

The end times is a time of deception so the current view among people is that they will go through the tribulation because many people don't believe in the rapture so they will go through the deception. They don't believe God so God will send them a great delusion.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

So if you are in the end times, the delusion will get stronger and stronger.

 

[Chuckt]

The end times is a time of deception so the current view among people is that they will go through the tribulation because many people don't believe in the rapture so they will go through the deception. They don't believe God so God will send them a great delusion.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

1. a wandering, a straying about
   1. one led astray from the right way, roams hither and thither
2. metaph.
   1. mental straying
      1. error, wrong opinion relative to morals or religion
   2. error which shows itself in action, a wrong mode of acting
   3. error, that which leads into error, deceit or fraud

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The lie is the end times view and I believe with my whole heart that it is your end times view.

 

[Chuckt]

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

The lie is the end times view and I believe with my whole heart that it is your end times view.

How did God act in the past?

Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

So basically the anti-Christ will come first and God will give people up to the delusion that the anti-Christ is God. The anti-Christ has to come first to be a surprise and for people to believe the lie so those who believe that believers are going through the Great Tribulation are part of that lie because they don't really believe God and because they pick and choose what they want to believe.

 

[tinytom]

It is quite usual and typical to stop reading at verse 14. That relieves the end-times fanatic of the responsibility of realistically answering all of the questions the following verses raise. Your doomsday panic falls flat on its face when you try to explain the Sabbath, the winter time, the nursing and pregnant women, the coat, the explicit name of the city, etc.

Oh, you people and your insatiable desire to read that warning into our 21st Century.... as they did in their 20th century, and the 19th century before that, and the 18th century for THEIR time, and the 17 century, the 16th, the 15th, and on, and on, and on, and on, right back to the day Jesus warned His contemporaries about what was "SOON" to come. Every generation, after enough time went by after it had already happened, that they forgot about it, has sworn THE time was now THEIR time......... but none so blindly fanatically as OUR time when it has become so easy to make multiple millions and millions of dollars off gullible, fearful people. Thank you Schofield... and of course, Hal.

Sorry mate, God spoke to me while I was reading, not through someone else.

And it's pretty simple to me, Israel became a recognized nation in 1947, I believe, and if that generation passes away without Jesus coming back, then i'll have to start again, on the end times, but i do believe that the generation that was alive when Israel once again became a nation, will see the coming of the Lord.

That's pretty much less that 30 years. I don't believe anyone getting the end time right, is a ticket to heaven, but no understanding at all, of what is coming, is a ticket to some great suffering here on earth, and that aint so bad, but watching those you love suffer also, that's worth preparing for, And God aint gonna hold that against me.