End of oil is around the corner; what next?

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The earth is slowly cooling and that is causing the earth to shrink but that is not our concern for centuries to come. What we need to be concerned about is the finite amount of oil/gas that exists. Within the next 40 years we will consume what oil/gas there is. Without oil/gas to drive our economies what will we do next?

That is the question of the day !!
 
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Within the next 40 years the Fossil Fuel era will grind to an end; what are we going to do next-?


Energy information Administration Official Energy Statistics from the US government
Analysis & Projections - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

The above report indicates that the US will be using primarily oil as our main energy source through 2030.

The world's total declared reserves are 1,317,400,000,000 barrels (January 2007).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves

World oil consumption 2005 is 80,290,000 barrels per day or 29,305,850,000 per year

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 4rank.html

Dividing annual consumption into total reserves gives us 44.9 years of oil supply at the current consumption rate.

That was twelve (12) years ago, we are not changing our habits and this spells doom for us all.


Nuclear energy could replace fossil fuel but it too has it’s limits
Geothermal energy is another limitless energy source.

I believe whatever new energy source we transition too batteries will have to be designed that can store the energy for future use.

Whatever we do we need to start doing it now if we want a viable future for our children’s future.


Do you have any suggestions--?

North Sea is running too dry to meet target

Wednesday July 4, 2007

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/energy/story/0,,
2117952,00.html

The real casus belli: peak oil

Tuesday June 26, 2007

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2
111529,00.html

Science Panel Finds Fault With Estimates of Coal Supply

Published: June 21, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/21/business/21coal.
html

Chevron announces that they now have 11.8 years of oil left at current production levels after aquiring Unocal reserves

07/08/05

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/11/business/worldbu
siness/11unocal.html?pagewanted=2&adxnnl=1&
adxnnlx=1123732924-48wR07Ekayb0gi0r7b8l9Q

An Oil Enigma: Production Falls Even as Reserves Rise

Published: June 12, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/12/business/12RESE.
html?pagewanted=3&hp

"The decline of oil and gas will affect the world population more than climate change"

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/

In January 2001, the U.S.

Department of Energy estimated the world's supply of unexploited oil reserves the world supply of oil will be totally exhausted 35 years from now (June 2003).

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World oil and gas 'running out'

Thursday, October 2, 2003 Posted: 1245 GMT ( 8:45 PM HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/glo
bal.warming/

The Oil Crunch

Published: May 7, 2004

The question, instead, is when the trend in oil prices will turn decisively upward. That upward turn is inevitable as a growing world economy confronts a resource in limited supply. But when will it happen? Maybe it already has.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07KRUG.h
tml

Natural gas markets undergo turbulent transition as domestic production declines

Tuesday, December 16, 2003

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/auto/epa
per/editions/tuesday/business_f3edda2474a06071009b.
html

"Texas' oil resource is pretty well picked over,"
http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html'


Oman's Oil Yield Long in Decline, Shell Data Show
Published: April 8, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/business/08OIL.h
tml?hp

Half of Texas’s oil wells have dried up in the past 40 years and there are very few new ones.

http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/sp
ecialreports/energy/0617oil.html'

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I know oil isn't infinite honestly I have no idea I assume people who know the science in making energy from it would know but why there isn't more push to get off oil consumption. Money probably top of the list I assume and brings greed with the use of a energy source to fuel the money.
 
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tooldtocare said:
The earth is slowly cooling and that is causing the earth to shrink but that is not our concern for centuries to come. What we need to be concerned about is the finite amount of oil/gas that exists. Within the next 40 years we will consume what oil/gas there is. Without oil/gas to drive our economies what will we do next?

That is the question of the day !!
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We Will Never Run Out of Oil
 
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I do agree, we will never run out of fossil fuels. We will find an alternative and leave the rest under the Or at least that is what I am betting on

Either way it will not be around so should I even care?

just asking
 
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Right..,,..The only problem is creating less expensive ways of reaching said oil..,.,.,.,
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What is the point in reaching out when you know there is nothing there to find-?
 
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What is the point in reaching out when you know there is nothing there to find-?
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You're not making sense. There is oil to find. Much of it's just far too deep to reach with our present-day technology (if you want it to stay affordable).
 
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You're not making sense. There is oil to find. Much of it's just far too deep to reach with our present-day technology (if you want it to stay affordable).
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You are right, there is plenty of oil for at least another 200-500 yrs. The whole North American plate is a vastly untouched natural gas and coal reserve. But because of the EPA they are not allowed to drill there.....There is no such thing as a oil/gas shortage only artificially created by Big Oil to make profits and affect the economy..
 
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You're not making sense. There is oil to find. Much of it's just far too deep to reach with our present-day technology (if you want it to stay affordable).
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Money is not the issue here. Oil is finite. All I am saying is the sooner we find alternatives the better for our children's sack
 
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You are right, there is plenty of oil for at least another 200-500 yrs. .....There is no such thing as a oil/gas shortage only artificially created by Big Oil to make profits and affect the economy..
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The above links state the facts with links that cannot be disputed.
Please help me along here. Where did you get the numbers

Ultimatum77 said:
there is plenty of oil for at least another 200-500 yrs. .....
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At this moment in time, where I am it’s 12:18:AM
4/20/2016

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There was a gentleman Tesla who was working on a invention that produced a wireless electricity source not sure if it worked or not could be something the energy industries to look into, and biofuel and the likes or the trash people throw away, here were I live the trash dumps are turned into man made hills into parks and the like maybe scientists can come up with a way to recycle the garbage into a energy source. Seems doing these two transitions could limit the use of fossil fuels.
 
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BeyondET said:
There was a gentleman Tesla who was working on a invention that produced a wireless electricity source not sure if it worked or not could be something the energy industries to look into, and biofuel and the likes or the trash people throw away, here were I live the trash dumps are turned into man made hills into parks and the like maybe scientists can come up with a way to recycle the garbage into a energy source. Seems doing these two transitions could limit the use of fossil fuels.
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After his death the feds confiscated his works....he was much smarter than thomas edison....imo....
 
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Right. The Great Flood created enough reserves for us until Jesus returns a second time. The only problem is creating less expensive ways of reaching said oil.
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When I was a kid, Dad bagged half the meat we ate. He either hunted it or fished for it, so most of the fish I ate as a kid was freshwater fish with daily and weekly limits. (BTW, Dad was a chemical engineer so made very good money. He just like going after prey.)

They never did that with saltwater fish, until the fish started disappearing. By the time I grew up, those same waters he used to fish in became Super Fund sites. (Places dumped in, but no one took responsibilities so the government will clean them up someday -- roughly about the time they think our infrastructure really is important, so I don't expect that during my lifetime either.)

As I bought fish at the store when I did grow up, I noticed something. The cheap fish keeps changing. There was a time people would no more buy a sea bass to eat than they'd buy carp. Edible, but not worth eating unless you were very hungry. And then sea bass came into vogue when the fish before it was all but wiped out. And now the sea bass is all but wiped out, so they're offering maui maui as if that's not just another junk fish from an exotic location. (Maybe not exotic to you, but, from my perspective, you live in an exotic location too. lol) Cod is becoming endangered.

This is what Man does. We use all we want of something until it's close to extinction, and we use it at will. "I didn't eat that many sea bass, so don't blame me." "I need my gas guzzling SUV because we had a blizzard in 1997, and the city closed down for a week." (Honest. The SUV's took over the precious parking spots around here ever since "The Mother of All Blizzards" as if a once-every-300-year blizzard coming by gives us a reason, just in case we live another 300 years.)

No, I doubt God left us enough fossil fuels until he returns again. It's not manna, and we don't live in the wilderness. I also think the economist who wrote that article lacks a certain amount of common sense too. He didn't take into account that electric cars often run on fossil fuels too. After all, our power plants are run on nuclear energy, coal (a fossil fuel), or natural gas (another fossil fuel), so we've done nothing but gone from sea bass to maui maui, as if we didn't waste a whole lot of junk fish because "it's not my fault."

God asked the Israelites to trust him to cross the wilderness. They didn't, so a five-day walk became a 40-year walk. It doesn't mean he gave up on them yet. It meant he really asked them to trust him and follow his commands, but they didn't.

He gave us all a command in the Garden of Eden -- subdue the earth. We've chosen to rape it instead.

There will be fossil fuels until God returns, but only because by that time we've already used it up until we couldn't afford it anymore.

The writer of that article said that $4 gas cuts down on car use. It worked for us. We couldn't afford the gas, so we walked or didn't go anywhere as often as most people. Back then we refilled our tank once a season. I am very grateful that God has cut the price of gas down to half that now, because there is no way of seeing hubby by walking. It's walkable. He's less than three miles away. Funny thing. I can't walk it because it's nothing but traffic on heavily-used roads between here and there.

Yesterday I got stuck in an expected traffic jam. A group of teen boys walked past my car (and laughed at me, because I forgot my window was down while I was singing with Neil Diamond. I can't sing, so only sing in the car because I won't disturb anyone. lol) I saw them cross the street a quarter of a mile up the street I was still stuck on a little while later. It really is to the point it would be faster to walk. BUT it's not our fault we're running out of fossil fuels, right? lol

One day, it will get to the point that only rich people can buy gas. Fossil fuels will survive when only the uber rich can afford it. I strongly suspect there will come a time when hubby and I can't afford a car. I see that happening in our lifetime. It might even happen in hubby's lifetime.

We never did get "subdue the earth" was really important!
 
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I do agree, we will never run out of fossil fuels. We will find an alternative and leave the rest under the Or at least that is what I am betting on

Either way it will not be around so should I even care?

just asking
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Are you rich enough that it doesn't affect you? If that's the case, I doubt the time to care will last.

In reality still, (and as Christians this shouldn't be the case, but it is), if it doesn't affect us, we just tend not to care. "Should" usually doesn't enter the picture.
 
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At this moment in time, where I am it’s 12:18:AM
4/20/2016

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This is just one article but there are many more....

The United States Has Plenty Of Oil: 10 Facts About America’s Energy Resources That Will Blow Your Mind

The oil shortage scare is a way to hike the price claiming low supply (think basic economics supply and demand) low supply plus high demand = high prices....

Also Alaska and the pacific west off shore has plenty of fossil fuels but are not allowed to touch it due to the EPA which is a sham organization.....they act like they care about the environment but its all bs....BP after the oil spill only got a slap on the wrist and not fined heavily as they should have been....the EPA is just shutting down oil businesses based in the US and in effect shutting down the economy over there because the price of oil greatly affects the economy.....
 
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tooldtocare said:
The earth is slowly cooling and that is causing the earth to shrink but that is not our concern for centuries to come. What we need to be concerned about is the finite amount of oil/gas that exists. Within the next 40 years we will consume what oil/gas there is. Without oil/gas to drive our economies what will we do next?

That is the question of the day !!
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Hi, Your thread reminded me of this article:

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Wood Gas Wizard - Green Transportation - MOTHER EARTH NEWS
 
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Depleted, I don't know about mahi mahi, but we have millions upon millions of European carp in the River Murray. They're a huge pest. They destroy the whole eco-system.
 
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You are right, there is plenty of oil for at least another 200-500 yrs. The whole North American plate is a vastly untouched natural gas and coal reserve. But because of the EPA they are not allowed to drill there.....There is no such thing as a oil/gas shortage only artificially created by Big Oil to make profits and affect the economy..
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Ummm, we're getting our heat from that "untouched natural gas" reserve, and specifically because we already found out how harmful the use of coal is. You're talking about an America that hasn't been around in 100 years. Your statement would be correct if this was 1916, but it's 2016.

And back in the 70's, there was no shortage of oil. There was a shortage of getting it to the right market for what the market would bear. (Imagine how confused I was as a kid. My family moved out to Illinois so Dad could help build an oil refinery. When he was done and the refinery was operational, we moved back east only to hear Big Oil was too cheap to build more refineries so there is a shortage. lol) Why in the world would "Big Oil" want people to stop buying their product?

I knew two young men from South Africa who made a fortune in oil during that "shortage." No, they had no oil to sell, but they knew tankers were on the ocean filled with oil but no place to deliver it to. All they did was find the places that wanted the oil and then tell the captain of those tankers to go there. Then they got a 10% finders fee. THAT's how much of a no-shortage there was in the 70's.

(I met them in the early 80's because of their next problem. If they didn't invest all that money quickly, their government wanted it as taxes. So they settled on buying a big chunk of land in Virginia. The only thing they didn't know was where and from whom, so they looked for the a phone book in Virginia and picked alphabetically all the way -- by the name of the county and then by the name of the first alphabetical realtor in that county. And that's how they met my uncle and bought thousands of acres of undeveloped land in VA. lol)

And our EPA is an enforcement agency, not decision makers. They enforce what our legislators tell them to enforce.
 
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